No Hall Sweeps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to go back to the policy of lates/tardies/skipping resulting in failing quarters. The current system is just not effective at getting kids into classrooms and learning. It is designed to ensure failing is difficult and to guarantee graduation rates.

I think the theory is that if a kid already has X numbers of missed class times, they will just stop going to class all together since the semester is lost. Better to have them keep coming even sometimes. Not saying I agree with it but it is the theory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can he make them go up class? He can’t touch them and there seems to be no consequences if they don’t go.

It’s called using your physical presence. They teach educators to use proximity to redirect students… Literally moving towards students in the hall is better than sitting and being on your phone as a security guard.

You've obviously never taught in a school with students who are highly reactive. You never get in their personal space unless you want to be attacked.

If you are that scared of teens you need a new job. They will behave that way because it works. Tell them to go home if they will not attend class.

Teachers have been hospitalized due to assaults by teens. It is not unreasonable to fear them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need to go back to the policy of lates/tardies/skipping resulting in failing quarters. The current system is just not effective at getting kids into classrooms and learning. It is designed to ensure failing is difficult and to guarantee graduation rates.

I think the theory is that if a kid already has X numbers of missed class times, they will just stop going to class all together since the semester is lost. Better to have them keep coming even sometimes. Not saying I agree with it but it is the theory.

No, the PP is right. The status quo is currently around preserving graduation rates, which is tied to funding for the school system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The adults at the schools where raised without consequences and now they are in charge. They don't see it as a problem. Just stay away from those schools.

Our principal and some staff prefer to be friends with the kids. Thank goodness for the few teachers who are true teachers.

Being nice to kids is so counterproductive!

Bring back corporal punishment. That'll learn 'em!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The adults at the schools where raised without consequences and now they are in charge. They don't see it as a problem. Just stay away from those schools.

Our principal and some staff prefer to be friends with the kids. Thank goodness for the few teachers who are true teachers.

Being nice to kids is so counterproductive!

Bring back corporal punishment. That'll learn 'em!

I see your sarcasm and raise you the current state of affairs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can he make them go up class? He can’t touch them and there seems to be no consequences if they don’t go.

It’s called using your physical presence. They teach educators to use proximity to redirect students… Literally moving towards students in the hall is better than sitting and being on your phone as a security guard.

You've obviously never taught in a school with students who are highly reactive. You never get in their personal space unless you want to be attacked.

If you are that scared of teens you need a new job. They will behave that way because it works. Tell them to go home if they will not attend class.

Well, my colleague got a new job after a student punched her in the jaw and broke it. Have you heard of the teaching shortage? Teachers are out there but they don't want to do the job anymore. Ever wonder why? Thankfully, I teach mostly honors students and they are mostly non-confrontational but I don't dare touch them if they fall asleep in class. My other colleague had a desk flipped over on her foot when she woke a sleeping student. Broke some toes and needed surgery.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The adults at the schools where raised without consequences and now they are in charge. They don't see it as a problem. Just stay away from those schools.

Our principal and some staff prefer to be friends with the kids. Thank goodness for the few teachers who are true teachers.

Being nice to kids is so counterproductive!

Bring back corporal punishment. That'll learn 'em!

Grow up. There is a difference from being nice and a pushover and allowing the kids to run the school. They make rules and don't enforce them so the kids are behaving how ever they want as and its a problem for the rest of our kids who want to learn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can he make them go up class? He can’t touch them and there seems to be no consequences if they don’t go.

It’s called using your physical presence. They teach educators to use proximity to redirect students… Literally moving towards students in the hall is better than sitting and being on your phone as a security guard.

You've obviously never taught in a school with students who are highly reactive. You never get in their personal space unless you want to be attacked.

If you are that scared of teens you need a new job. They will behave that way because it works. Tell them to go home if they will not attend class.

Well, my colleague got a new job after a student punched her in the jaw and broke it. Have you heard of the teaching shortage? Teachers are out there but they don't want to do the job anymore. Ever wonder why? Thankfully, I teach mostly honors students and they are mostly non-confrontational but I don't dare touch them if they fall asleep in class. My other colleague had a desk flipped over on her foot when she woke a sleeping student. Broke some toes and needed surgery.

No, I don't wonder why, especially looking at the admin at our school. It starts there. And, with the parents. I was shocked going to a meeting listening to our principal say, this is the rule but it's ok they don't follow it over and over again. When I pick up my child for a medical appointment, the number of kids going to school late is absurd (for no reason). If you cannot show up on time, you should fail that class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can he make them go up class? He can’t touch them and there seems to be no consequences if they don’t go.

It’s called using your physical presence. They teach educators to use proximity to redirect students… Literally moving towards students in the hall is better than sitting and being on your phone as a security guard.

You've obviously never taught in a school with students who are highly reactive. You never get in their personal space unless you want to be attacked.

If you are that scared of teens you need a new job. They will behave that way because it works. Tell them to go home if they will not attend class.

Well, my colleague got a new job after a student punched her in the jaw and broke it. Have you heard of the teaching shortage? Teachers are out there but they don't want to do the job anymore. Ever wonder why? Thankfully, I teach mostly honors students and they are mostly non-confrontational but I don't dare touch them if they fall asleep in class. My other colleague had a desk flipped over on her foot when she woke a sleeping student. Broke some toes and needed surgery.

No, I don't wonder why, especially looking at the admin at our school. It starts there. And, with the parents. I was shocked going to a meeting listening to our principal say, this is the rule but it's ok they don't follow it over and over again. When I pick up my child for a medical appointment, the number of kids going to school late is absurd (for no reason). If you cannot show up on time, you should fail that class.

Yes, draconian punishments PLEASE!!! It doesn't matter that they miss class and fail to learn. Nobody cares about that but we need to make the rules more important than the outcome!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can he make them go up class? He can’t touch them and there seems to be no consequences if they don’t go.

It’s called using your physical presence. They teach educators to use proximity to redirect students… Literally moving towards students in the hall is better than sitting and being on your phone as a security guard.

You've obviously never taught in a school with students who are highly reactive. You never get in their personal space unless you want to be attacked.

If you are that scared of teens you need a new job. They will behave that way because it works. Tell them to go home if they will not attend class.

Well, my colleague got a new job after a student punched her in the jaw and broke it. Have you heard of the teaching shortage? Teachers are out there but they don't want to do the job anymore. Ever wonder why? Thankfully, I teach mostly honors students and they are mostly non-confrontational but I don't dare touch them if they fall asleep in class. My other colleague had a desk flipped over on her foot when she woke a sleeping student. Broke some toes and needed surgery.

No, I don't wonder why, especially looking at the admin at our school. It starts there. And, with the parents. I was shocked going to a meeting listening to our principal say, this is the rule but it's ok they don't follow it over and over again. When I pick up my child for a medical appointment, the number of kids going to school late is absurd (for no reason). If you cannot show up on time, you should fail that class.

Yes, draconian punishments PLEASE!!! It doesn't matter that they miss class and fail to learn. Nobody cares about that but we need to make the rules more important than the outcome!

It does seem to me that, at least for some posters, punishment is not a means to an end (kids who are learning) but an end in itself (punish those kids! punish them! punish them!).

[Anonymous]

The teachers are punished when the kids assault them. Thanks spineless admin and bs top down desk jockeys. If your goal is to corrupt the youth like you stifle the careers of lowly teachers you have suceeded. Deal with the shortage lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can he make them go up class? He can’t touch them and there seems to be no consequences if they don’t go.

It’s called using your physical presence. They teach educators to use proximity to redirect students… Literally moving towards students in the hall is better than sitting and being on your phone as a security guard.

You've obviously never taught in a school with students who are highly reactive. You never get in their personal space unless you want to be attacked.

If you are that scared of teens you need a new job. They will behave that way because it works. Tell them to go home if they will not attend class.

Well, my colleague got a new job after a student punched her in the jaw and broke it. Have you heard of the teaching shortage? Teachers are out there but they don't want to do the job anymore. Ever wonder why? Thankfully, I teach mostly honors students and they are mostly non-confrontational but I don't dare touch them if they fall asleep in class. My other colleague had a desk flipped over on her foot when she woke a sleeping student. Broke some toes and needed surgery.

No, I don't wonder why, especially looking at the admin at our school. It starts there. And, with the parents. I was shocked going to a meeting listening to our principal say, this is the rule but it's ok they don't follow it over and over again. When I pick up my child for a medical appointment, the number of kids going to school late is absurd (for no reason). If you cannot show up on time, you should fail that class.

Yes, draconian punishments PLEASE!!! It doesn't matter that they miss class and fail to learn. Nobody cares about that but we need to make the rules more important than the outcome!

It does seem to me that, at least for some posters, punishment is not a means to an end (kids who are learning) but an end in itself (punish those kids! punish them! punish them!).

I know! Let's punish them to show em who's boss!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can he make them go up class? He can’t touch them and there seems to be no consequences if they don’t go.

It’s called using your physical presence. They teach educators to use proximity to redirect students… Literally moving towards students in the hall is better than sitting and being on your phone as a security guard.

You've obviously never taught in a school with students who are highly reactive. You never get in their personal space unless you want to be attacked.

If you are that scared of teens you need a new job. They will behave that way because it works. Tell them to go home if they will not attend class.

Well, my colleague got a new job after a student punched her in the jaw and broke it. Have you heard of the teaching shortage? Teachers are out there but they don't want to do the job anymore. Ever wonder why? Thankfully, I teach mostly honors students and they are mostly non-confrontational but I don't dare touch them if they fall asleep in class. My other colleague had a desk flipped over on her foot when she woke a sleeping student. Broke some toes and needed surgery.

No, I don't wonder why, especially looking at the admin at our school. It starts there. And, with the parents. I was shocked going to a meeting listening to our principal say, this is the rule but it's ok they don't follow it over and over again. When I pick up my child for a medical appointment, the number of kids going to school late is absurd (for no reason). If you cannot show up on time, you should fail that class.

Yes, draconian punishments PLEASE!!! It doesn't matter that they miss class and fail to learn. Nobody cares about that but we need to make the rules more important than the outcome!

It does seem to me that, at least for some posters, punishment is not a means to an end (kids who are learning) but an end in itself (punish those kids! punish them! punish them!).

I know! Let's punish them to show em who's boss!

The alternative is to not punish kids and allow them to pretend to apologize which doesn't benefit anyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can he make them go up class? He can’t touch them and there seems to be no consequences if they don’t go.

It’s called using your physical presence. They teach educators to use proximity to redirect students… Literally moving towards students in the hall is better than sitting and being on your phone as a security guard.

You've obviously never taught in a school with students who are highly reactive. You never get in their personal space unless you want to be attacked.

If you are that scared of teens you need a new job. They will behave that way because it works. Tell them to go home if they will not attend class.

Well, my colleague got a new job after a student punched her in the jaw and broke it. Have you heard of the teaching shortage? Teachers are out there but they don't want to do the job anymore. Ever wonder why? Thankfully, I teach mostly honors students and they are mostly non-confrontational but I don't dare touch them if they fall asleep in class. My other colleague had a desk flipped over on her foot when she woke a sleeping student. Broke some toes and needed surgery.

No, I don't wonder why, especially looking at the admin at our school. It starts there. And, with the parents. I was shocked going to a meeting listening to our principal say, this is the rule but it's ok they don't follow it over and over again. When I pick up my child for a medical appointment, the number of kids going to school late is absurd (for no reason). If you cannot show up on time, you should fail that class.

Yes, draconian punishments PLEASE!!! It doesn't matter that they miss class and fail to learn. Nobody cares about that but we need to make the rules more important than the outcome!

It does seem to me that, at least for some posters, punishment is not a means to an end (kids who are learning) but an end in itself (punish those kids! punish them! punish them!).

I know! Let's punish them to show em who's boss!

The alternative is to not punish kids and allow them to pretend to apologize which doesn't benefit anyone.

There are multiple alternatives, not just one. And the question is, which alternative most effectively accomplishes the goal of helping kids successfully learn?

[Anonymous]

Fire the teachers who grade fairly and create safe classes AND report crime??? We can't just let violent criminals off and expect a safe and ideal society. We can't make teachers pay more than they already are for our dysfunctional corruption based system.