Top 10% at TJ

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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

This is not true.

SOLs for the new admissions cohort are lower than previous years by quite a lot. Also, level of math acceleration is lower than previous cohorts. And soon, PSAT scores will probably reveal a drop in scores. We shall see.

It’s OK the admissions were changed to include a more diverse set of kids, but there is no need to make up things about the scores.

It is sad that test scores at TJ have dropped so much since the admissions requirements were changed by the school board.

Test scores at all schools have dropped because the pandemic took a toll on learning.

Aren't standardized tests normed?

PSAT scores seem to have stayed relatively flat in Virginia

I don't think that's true. The NMSF cutoff dropped during the pandemic and still hasn't recovered.

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PSAT-10 scores dropped by 120 points at TJ from class of 24 to 25… but stayed flat at other FCPS high schools.

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Before pandemic or after pandemic, in the midst of pandemic or free from its grip, years with merit admission or after admission change with sob story essays, the top 10% of TJ student body appears to be overwhelmingly dominated by 90% Asian American students. Why so?

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Anonymous wrote:Before pandemic or after pandemic, in the midst of pandemic or free from its grip, years with merit admission or after admission change with sob story essays, the top 10% of TJ student body appears to be overwhelmingly dominated by 90% Asian American students. Why so?

It's not just TJ. It's America. The country's top students are overwhelmingly Asian.

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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

This is not true.

SOLs for the new admissions cohort are lower than previous years by quite a lot. Also, level of math acceleration is lower than previous cohorts. And soon, PSAT scores will probably reveal a drop in scores. We shall see.

It’s OK the admissions were changed to include a more diverse set of kids, but there is no need to make up things about the scores.

It is sad that test scores at TJ have dropped so much since the admissions requirements were changed by the school board.

Test scores at all schools have dropped because the pandemic took a toll on learning.

Aren't standardized tests normed?

PSAT scores seem to have stayed relatively flat in Virginia

where is this information available? is it broken down by school?

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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.

Umm, no.

The new process is basically a modified lottery.

Test scores are down.

They are trying to make up for it through grade inflation but with testing coming back it will be hard to disguise the drop in student quality.

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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.

Umm, no.

The new process is basically a modified lottery.

Test scores are down.

They are trying to make up for it through grade inflation but with testing coming back it will be hard to disguise the drop in student quality.

AKA drop in affluence.

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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.

Umm, no.

The new process is basically a modified lottery.

Test scores are down.

They are trying to make up for it through grade inflation but with testing coming back it will be hard to disguise the drop in student quality.

even a straightfoward random lottery wasn't getting the desired diversity number, so had to be modified lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:Before pandemic or after pandemic, in the midst of pandemic or free from its grip, years with merit admission or after admission change with sob story essays, the top 10% of TJ student body appears to be overwhelmingly dominated by 90% Asian American students. Why so?

Its a combination of the immigrant effect and the cultural focus on education.
Everybody SAYS they value education but they don't do so equally.
I don't think that there is such a lopsided distribution of native ability but asian kids get trained up.

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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.

Umm, no.

The new process is basically a modified lottery.

Test scores are down.

They are trying to make up for it through grade inflation but with testing coming back it will be hard to disguise the drop in student quality.

AKA drop in affluence.

No, a drop in academic ability.

Stuyvesant high school is far poorer than tjhsst and they do just as well as tj did before the recent change.
But stuyvesant students are selected on a merit based admissions process.

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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.

Umm, no.

The new process is basically a modified lottery.

Test scores are down.

They are trying to make up for it through grade inflation but with testing coming back it will be hard to disguise the drop in student quality.

AKA drop in affluence.

No, a drop in academic ability.

Stuyvesant high school is far poorer than tjhsst and they do just as well as tj did before the recent change.
But stuyvesant students are selected on a merit based admissions process.

The upper portion of TJ class before and now consists mostly of Asian students, much like Stuyvesant, and they are the ones maintaining the high academic standards and enrolling in the most rigorous courses. The hundreds of innocent kids with minimal algebra 1 math that are being admitted for sake of diversity chart, but into the bottom tier and put through inhumane suffering is the cause for concern.

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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.

Umm, no.

The new process is basically a modified lottery.

Test scores are down.

They are trying to make up for it through grade inflation but with testing coming back it will be hard to disguise the drop in student quality.

even a straightfoward random lottery wasn't getting the desired diversity number, so had to be modified lottery.

Race based admissions

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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.

Umm, no.

The new process is basically a modified lottery.

Test scores are down.

They are trying to make up for it through grade inflation but with testing coming back it will be hard to disguise the drop in student quality.

even a straightfoward random lottery wasn't getting the desired diversity number, so had to be modified lottery.

Race based admissions

Race blind admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC is at TJ, but doesn't know this. Not in competitive clubs and truly has no idea where they stand (GPA) relative to classmates.

if all they do is study - they are doomed.

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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.

Umm, no.

The new process is basically a modified lottery.

Test scores are down.

They are trying to make up for it through grade inflation but with testing coming back it will be hard to disguise the drop in student quality.

AKA drop in affluence.

No, a drop in academic ability.

Stuyvesant high school is far poorer than tjhsst and they do just as well as tj did before the recent change.
But stuyvesant students are selected on a merit based admissions process.

The last class admitted to TJ before the change had less than 1% (0.6%) students from economically-disadvantaged families.

At TJ, it’s a drop in affluence.