Agree he is impressive. But eventually they will come for him. Maybe not this year, but as standards for TJ admissions relax to deliver the desired equitable outcomes, his standards and rigor of his course will follow by necessity or he will leave. It’s that simple. It’s how they will kill the “elite TJ model”. And it’s a feature, not a bug. Equitable doesn’t mean fair shot—it means same outcome. Equity doesn’t simply elevate the disadvantaged. It dilutes the exceptional. And, by design, it turns everything into mediocre. |
Well said. |
The easiest and laziest way to guarantee equal results is to handicap everyone so that they perform at the lowest common level. |
I'm voting for the incumbents. They've done a great job especially with eliminating the test buying and reducing the toxicity at TJ. |
The standards have gone down over the past two decades to accommodate the lower-caliber students who used prep to appear gifted. I'm actually hoping the new process helps reverse the trend by favoring naturally gifted students. |
Unfortunately the new admissions has resulted in selecting kids who perform academically worse in every measurable way than many students not selected. Do you have any suggestions on how to measure natural giftedness? |
I get that you prefer a system that is easily gamed but the new process has had the opposite effect. The newest crop of students are performing far better than those admitted under the old system and the school environment is less toxic too. |
They've also helped open up to the programs like TJ to all county residents not just those at the wealthy schools that can afford extensive outside enrichment. |
DP. We all know the twofold problem with the idea of measuring natural giftedness. So failing that, reducing toxicity is a better goal to me than exceptional academic performance. Your opinion may differ. |
I understand you can’t answer the question. Can you explain how you are measuring their performance you claim is “far better?” Because all the measurements indicate otherwise. |
PP just doesn't like TJ having too many Asians. |
You are the one claiming things have gotten worse. I haven't seen a shred of real evidence to that effect just some bitter parents who miss being able to buy their way in. Please show me tangible proof that TJ is worse off now that kids from schools other than the most wealthy have a shot at admission. |
DP. In the end, we're probably going to have to measure the relative success of the new admissions process by college outcomes. Will the group of independent evaluators from different high-end academic institutions judge this new crop of TJ students more worthy to attend their schools? I suspect the answer will be yes. You can feel free to use exam scores to claim that the new group is less-than... but that's sort of circular logic. Of course they're not going to score as well on standardized exams because the old process used to overselect for test-taking ability. There's also always the option to just leave them be and not concern yourself with which group is better or worse because they're high school kids and they had no control over the process used to select them. What's the point of TJ, after all? |
+1 Some people are bitter that they can't buy their way in quite as easily as before. |
Didn't this happen to the top HS in San Francisco? (the previous #1 HS in the country)... they got rid of merit based requirements, now they are not even in the top 100. It depends on what the leaders want I suppose, a diversified school with access to all or a merit based school. |