4 day school week?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School personnel here --we are not babysitters.

I would love a 4-day week. My cousin has taught in 2 districts with 4 days weeks -- no burnout, everyone loves it.

You are responsible for your own children.

Fine with me if you get 80% salary. Otherwise, forget it.

That's more or less what they have already.

Dropping from 5 days a week to 4 days per week is a reduction in work by 20%. If the fifth day is being cut to save money, that reducing pay by 20% makes perfect sense.
If you claim school isn't daycare, I'll counter with school isn't a jobs program.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, I don't want 4 day school week. We already have to use before care/after care for school age kids for 5 days a week on school days. Unless I can work 4 days a week, or else my kids will be sent to a full day camp on that no school day. I hate them watching youtube all day on weekend, and they don't need one extra day to do so.

If you hate that they are watching you tube all day on the weekends why are they doing it?

Pp here. They are in school for 50 hours a week include before care/after care. On top of it, every week, one does math enrichment, soccer, swimming, cub scout and basketball. The other one does dance , gynmastic and swimming. They both learn foreign language. They need some down time, even though how much I hate they pick youtube when they have nothing to do. I try my best to not keep them at home and keep them busy and occupied with activities. We need a break as parents. Academic is my least worry for 4 days school, and my worry is to keep them busy not watching too much youtube, so that I can work and relax a bit.

so with 50 hours of school/care, all those activities, and utube all day, when do you stuff with them? Yes you need a break, I get that, but you chose to have kids and now you’re farming them out constantly.

I drive them to do all activities, and I sometimes practice with them together on skills they learn. During holiday seasons & bad weather, activities are canceled. I volunteer on some of their activities to participate together. I bring them to my interests which are art exhibits and hiking if they are interested. I take them to playground to play and bike. We are just always on a go family. They are happy children, and they love busy schedule or else they are bored which means watching youtube at home.

Tell us you don't work without telling us you don't work. I can smell your entitlement and lack of self awareness from here. Nasty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School personnel here --we are not babysitters.

I would love a 4-day week. My cousin has taught in 2 districts with 4 days weeks -- no burnout, everyone loves it.

You are responsible for your own children.

The law requires us to send our kids to school until they’re 16.

Kids go to school. Adults work. That’s how society works.

We’re not asking you to deal with our kids on the weekends. We’re asking you to provide an education for them during the goddamn workweek.

See how good it did y’all to scream about ‘lazy’ teachers in 2020. You guys will never learn.

See how calling parents idiots that do not care for their own children now has schools and teachers under a microscope? We knew you were all bottom of the barrel prior to the pandemic, but seeing it on an endless loop in Zoom for almost two years was shocking to say the least.
This is like all they eyes on bad policing - we are in the process clearing out the bad apples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School personnel here --we are not babysitters.

I would love a 4-day week. My cousin has taught in 2 districts with 4 days weeks -- no burnout, everyone loves it.

You are responsible for your own children.

The law requires us to send our kids to school until they’re 16.

Kids go to school. Adults work. That’s how society works.

We’re not asking you to deal with our kids on the weekends. We’re asking you to provide an education for them during the goddamn workweek.

See how good it did y’all to scream about ‘lazy’ teachers in 2020. You guys will never learn.

See how calling parents idiots that do not care for their own children now has schools and teachers under a microscope? We knew you were all bottom of the barrel prior to the pandemic, but seeing it on an endless loop in Zoom for almost two years was shocking to say the least.
This is like all they eyes on bad policing - we are in the process clearing out the bad apples.

DP. I don't agree that teachers are 'bottom of the barrel', but I do think seeing school for 1.5 years did indeed make me (as a parent) much more concerned about my kids' education.

I also think hurling teacher v. parent insults (both sides) is not really going to get us anywhere.

[Anonymous]

I also think hurling teacher v. parent insults (both sides) is not really going to get us anywhere.

+ a million

Both sides need to give it a rest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School personnel here --we are not babysitters.

I would love a 4-day week. My cousin has taught in 2 districts with 4 days weeks -- no burnout, everyone loves it.

You are responsible for your own children.

The law requires us to send our kids to school until they’re 16.

Kids go to school. Adults work. That’s how society works.

We’re not asking you to deal with our kids on the weekends. We’re asking you to provide an education for them during the goddamn workweek.

See how good it did y’all to scream about ‘lazy’ teachers in 2020. You guys will never learn.

See how calling parents idiots that do not care for their own children now has schools and teachers under a microscope? We knew you were all bottom of the barrel prior to the pandemic, but seeing it on an endless loop in Zoom for almost two years was shocking to say the least.
This is like all they eyes on bad policing - we are in the process clearing out the bad apples.

DP. I don't agree that teachers are 'bottom of the barrel', but I do think seeing school for 1.5 years did indeed make me (as a parent) much more concerned about my kids' education.

I also think hurling teacher v. parent insults (both sides) is not really going to get us anywhere.

I worked even more hours during Covid trying to find out how to translate my curriculum to an online format. I watched a coworker conduct Chemistry labs by using common household items that students could gather at their laptops. I watched another perform an entire Shakespearean play online, complete with costumed students and creative student-made digital backgrounds. I watched a 3rd conduct court scenes, with online students prepared to be judges, lawyers, and jurors.

Perhaps it helps because I know how hard it was to take an existing curriculum and adapt it for an online format. What I saw was teachers going above and beyond to do just that. I also saw teachers take time to check in with their students, conducting extra office hours for academic (and emotional) support.

So while some posters here want to hurl “bottom of the barrel” comments about teachers, I’ll stick with what I know to be true. Teachers made the best of a crap situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School personnel here --we are not babysitters.

I would love a 4-day week. My cousin has taught in 2 districts with 4 days weeks -- no burnout, everyone loves it.

You are responsible for your own children.

The law requires us to send our kids to school until they’re 16.

Kids go to school. Adults work. That’s how society works.

We’re not asking you to deal with our kids on the weekends. We’re asking you to provide an education for them during the goddamn workweek.

See how good it did y’all to scream about ‘lazy’ teachers in 2020. You guys will never learn.

See how calling parents idiots that do not care for their own children now has schools and teachers under a microscope? We knew you were all bottom of the barrel prior to the pandemic, but seeing it on an endless loop in Zoom for almost two years was shocking to say the least.
This is like all they eyes on bad policing - we are in the process clearing out the bad apples.

DP. I don't agree that teachers are 'bottom of the barrel', but I do think seeing school for 1.5 years did indeed make me (as a parent) much more concerned about my kids' education.

I also think hurling teacher v. parent insults (both sides) is not really going to get us anywhere.

I worked even more hours during Covid trying to find out how to translate my curriculum to an online format. I watched a coworker conduct Chemistry labs by using common household items that students could gather at their laptops. I watched another perform an entire Shakespearean play online, complete with costumed students and creative student-made digital backgrounds. I watched a 3rd conduct court scenes, with online students prepared to be judges, lawyers, and jurors.

Perhaps it helps because I know how hard it was to take an existing curriculum and adapt it for an online format. What I saw was teachers going above and beyond to do just that. I also saw teachers take time to check in with their students, conducting extra office hours for academic (and emotional) support.

So while some posters here want to hurl “bottom of the barrel” comments about teachers, I’ll stick with what I know to be true. Teachers made the best of a crap situation.

Some did. Most video-phoned it in. And parents saw.

[Anonymous]

I think it would be a true travesty of US ever had to go to 4 days school at scale. It's a logical conclusion. Parents work and kids not having a structured environment is the death of education right there. It's one thing to have holidays and days off and another to do 4 days on a regular basis year over year. Unless there was some routine activity focused on enrichment or activity of some type, that's a disaster awaiting for all of us. I saw this as a very liberal mom who sees value in many types of education. If a top athlete spent less time training than their competition, absolutely their performance suffers. Unless they compensate for more time or something when they are training but I don't think a 4 day school week offers more for those days!

It's def last case scenario for many small town due to finances a sad commentary on the status of US in general. Our infrastructure is crumbling and people who continue to say US is #1 are sadly mistaken. Our country can't even provide a full week of structured learning in public school consistently throughout the country, not sure what we have to brag about in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School personnel here --we are not babysitters.

I would love a 4-day week. My cousin has taught in 2 districts with 4 days weeks -- no burnout, everyone loves it.

You are responsible for your own children.

The law requires us to send our kids to school until they’re 16.

Kids go to school. Adults work. That’s how society works.

We’re not asking you to deal with our kids on the weekends. We’re asking you to provide an education for them during the goddamn workweek.

See how good it did y’all to scream about ‘lazy’ teachers in 2020. You guys will never learn.

See how calling parents idiots that do not care for their own children now has schools and teachers under a microscope? We knew you were all bottom of the barrel prior to the pandemic, but seeing it on an endless loop in Zoom for almost two years was shocking to say the least.
This is like all they eyes on bad policing - we are in the process clearing out the bad apples.

DP. I don't agree that teachers are 'bottom of the barrel', but I do think seeing school for 1.5 years did indeed make me (as a parent) much more concerned about my kids' education.

I also think hurling teacher v. parent insults (both sides) is not really going to get us anywhere.

I worked even more hours during Covid trying to find out how to translate my curriculum to an online format. I watched a coworker conduct Chemistry labs by using common household items that students could gather at their laptops. I watched another perform an entire Shakespearean play online, complete with costumed students and creative student-made digital backgrounds. I watched a 3rd conduct court scenes, with online students prepared to be judges, lawyers, and jurors.

Perhaps it helps because I know how hard it was to take an existing curriculum and adapt it for an online format. What I saw was teachers going above and beyond to do just that. I also saw teachers take time to check in with their students, conducting extra office hours for academic (and emotional) support.

So while some posters here want to hurl “bottom of the barrel” comments about teachers, I’ll stick with what I know to be true. Teachers made the best of a crap situation.

I believe that you worked hard. I think the issue that seems to get missed is that many teachers' efforts often didn't translate to results, due to the digital nature of the education.

It didn't work.

There are people here who will take an entire dump on parents and blame them because it didn't work, but it didn't work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School personnel here --we are not babysitters.

I would love a 4-day week. My cousin has taught in 2 districts with 4 days weeks -- no burnout, everyone loves it.

You are responsible for your own children.

The law requires us to send our kids to school until they’re 16.

Kids go to school. Adults work. That’s how society works.

We’re not asking you to deal with our kids on the weekends. We’re asking you to provide an education for them during the goddamn workweek.

See how good it did y’all to scream about ‘lazy’ teachers in 2020. You guys will never learn.

See how calling parents idiots that do not care for their own children now has schools and teachers under a microscope? We knew you were all bottom of the barrel prior to the pandemic, but seeing it on an endless loop in Zoom for almost two years was shocking to say the least.
This is like all they eyes on bad policing - we are in the process clearing out the bad apples.

DP. I don't agree that teachers are 'bottom of the barrel', but I do think seeing school for 1.5 years did indeed make me (as a parent) much more concerned about my kids' education.

I also think hurling teacher v. parent insults (both sides) is not really going to get us anywhere.

I worked even more hours during Covid trying to find out how to translate my curriculum to an online format. I watched a coworker conduct Chemistry labs by using common household items that students could gather at their laptops. I watched another perform an entire Shakespearean play online, complete with costumed students and creative student-made digital backgrounds. I watched a 3rd conduct court scenes, with online students prepared to be judges, lawyers, and jurors.

Perhaps it helps because I know how hard it was to take an existing curriculum and adapt it for an online format. What I saw was teachers going above and beyond to do just that. I also saw teachers take time to check in with their students, conducting extra office hours for academic (and emotional) support.

So while some posters here want to hurl “bottom of the barrel” comments about teachers, I’ll stick with what I know to be true. Teachers made the best of a crap situation.

I believe that you worked hard. I think the issue that seems to get missed is that many teachers' efforts often didn't translate to results, due to the digital nature of the education.

It didn't work.

There are people here who will take an entire dump on parents and blame them because it didn't work, but it didn't work.

+1 I 100% believe you and other teachers went above and beyond, but the virtual year was totally ineffective and harmful.

[Anonymous]

This will never happen in DMV. It has in some states, but mostly poor red states.

Stop bashing teachers. It’s not their fault. It’s the fault of local jurisdictions that are not really looking out for kids and their futures.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It would be awful! All the kids would do is play video games, watch tik tok, watch YouTube, go to the mall and spend money on Starbucks. It would be like the shutdowns.

Hopefully, MoCo will not screw up the school budget so this becomes necessary.

That hasn’t happened universally. It’s a choice that communities and families are making to not offer ways to use that day meaningfully. Some districts offer athletics, tutoring, STEAM enrichment, and service learning. Businesses and institutions have offered discounts and special activities on those days. It’s a popular day for scouting, 4H, and JA. And families of young children have podded together to have outings and provide coop childcare.

Nature abhors a vacuum. If MCPS moved to a 4 day schedule, within a month, there would be more than a dozen new businesses offering activities that offer activities doubling as childcare. It would most impact the working poor, but they would also benefit from the longer school days.

Keep treating teachers like garbage on your shoe....and the DMV area will be at 4 days. Down southern VA there are kids in classrooms but learning online....is what it is a teacher exodus.

Who are you talking to?

you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School personnel here --we are not babysitters.

I would love a 4-day week. My cousin has taught in 2 districts with 4 days weeks -- no burnout, everyone loves it.

You are responsible for your own children.

The law requires us to send our kids to school until they’re 16.

Kids go to school. Adults work. That’s how society works.

We’re not asking you to deal with our kids on the weekends. We’re asking you to provide an education for them during the goddamn workweek.

See how good it did y’all to scream about ‘lazy’ teachers in 2020. You guys will never learn.

See how calling parents idiots that do not care for their own children now has schools and teachers under a microscope? We knew you were all bottom of the barrel prior to the pandemic, but seeing it on an endless loop in Zoom for almost two years was shocking to say the least.
This is like all they eyes on bad policing - we are in the process clearing out the bad apples.

LOL....it's like a child wrote the above nonsense.

[Anonymous]

What about a 4-day work week to go along with that 4-day school week? Have been reading a few articles about a trial 4-day work week in Britain and results so far are positive. And, separately, I have read that some industry leaders believe AI will cut down the work week to 3.5-4 days.

Excerpts below.

Article here:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/4-day-work-week-trial-yields-overwhelming-success-in-u-k-researchers-say

A trial of a four-day workweek in Britain, billed as the world’s largest, has found that an overwhelming majority of the 61 companies that participated from June to December will keep going with the shorter hours and that most employees were less stressed and had better work-life balance.

That was all while companies reported revenue largely stayed the same during the trial period last year and even grew compared with the same six months a year earlier, according to findings released this week.

The university’s team worked with researchers from Boston College; Autonomy, a research organization focused on the future of work; and the 4 Day Week Global nonprofit community to see how the companies from industries spanning marketing to finance to nonprofits and their 2,900 workers would respond to reduced work hours while pay stayed the same.

Not surprisingly, employees reported benefits, with 71 percent less burned out, 39 percent less stressed and 48 percent more satisfied with their job than before the trial.

Of the workers, 60 percent said it was easier to balance work and responsibilities at home, while 73 percent reported increased satisfaction with their lives. Fatigue was down, people were sleeping more and mental health improved, the findings show.

The concept lets people work, have a day to do chores like cleaning the house and “then have two days off, seeing your friends, seeing your family, doing some stuff yourself,” Wainwright said. “And that’s what this is all about — is actually just working to live and not living to work.”

For companies that rolled out the shorter work hours — whether it was one less workday a week or longer hours in parts of the year and shorter hours the rest of the time to make an average 32-hour week — revenue wasn’t affected, the findings say.

Revenue grew 1.4 percent over the course of the trial for 23 companies that provided adequate data — weighted for the size of the business — while a separate 24 companies saw revenue climb more than 34 percent from the same six-month period a year earlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pleas tell me about the movement to push for 4 day school week. I heard that several times in local media this week. im single