Why isn’t youth football a big sport around here?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t follow the distinction between football and lacrosse, where kids are really physical and whacking at each other with sticks. I get people who allow neither, but drawing a line between the two doesn’t add up.


Comparing the two, it's not the same level, intensity, and frequency of contact directly to and/or impacting the player's head... not even close. I know it's not true but it's as if you've never watched a game of either of them.

And again, as it's been said in this thread and elsewhere - the current research suggests that it's not necessarily the concussion events that contribute to CTE and long-term compromised brain health, it's the frequent repetitive sub-concussive blows that occur every play of a football game that are to blame.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:People are educated here.

CTE. Nobody wants their kids to play anything but flag football if they are going to play football.


Also, tackle football is very “American,” and people are here are “educated” (indoctrinated) to hate typically American things such as the U.S. flag, the military, the heartland (they deride it as “flyover country”), baseball and hockey (too white), etc.

People around here are actually very closed-minded and ignorant, but it’s amusing to hear them arrogantly proclaim how “educated” they believe themselves to be.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People are educated here.

CTE. Nobody wants their kids to play anything but flag football if they are going to play football.


Also, tackle football is very “American,” and people are here are “educated” (indoctrinated) to hate typically American things such as the U.S. flag, the military, the heartland (they deride it as “flyover country”), baseball and hockey (too white), etc.

People around here are actually very closed-minded and ignorant, but it’s amusing to hear them arrogantly proclaim how “educated” they believe themselves to be.


This is so spot on.

These are the same people that hate on American cuisine or American culture, as if they don't exist. It's rampant in the Travel forum.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People are educated here.

CTE. Nobody wants their kids to play anything but flag football if they are going to play football.


Also, tackle football is very “American,” and people are here are “educated” (indoctrinated) to hate typically American things such as the U.S. flag, the military, the heartland (they deride it as “flyover country”), baseball and hockey (too white), etc.

People around here are actually very closed-minded and ignorant, but it’s amusing to hear them arrogantly proclaim how “educated” they believe themselves to be.


Dafuq are you prattling on about. You sound a little dim.
Anonymous
PP. Consider that there are just more youth sports available to: lacrosse, basketball, field hockey, soccer, baseball and football.

Fairfax County native and growing up here in the 70s/80s I recall only baseball/football/soccer and basketball.

More options. I recall boys playing football for after school or at recess. Basketball has taken over as far as pick up games/playing for fun.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People are educated here.

CTE. Nobody wants their kids to play anything but flag football if they are going to play football.


Also, tackle football is very “American,” and people are here are “educated” (indoctrinated) to hate typically American things such as the U.S. flag, the military, the heartland (they deride it as “flyover country”), baseball and hockey (too white), etc.

People around here are actually very closed-minded and ignorant, but it’s amusing to hear them arrogantly proclaim how “educated” they believe themselves to be.


Dafuq are you prattling on about. You sound a little dim.


Too many tackles when he was younger.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People are educated here.

CTE. Nobody wants their kids to play anything but flag football if they are going to play football.


Also, tackle football is very “American,” and people are here are “educated” (indoctrinated) to hate typically American things such as the U.S. flag, the military, the heartland (they deride it as “flyover country”), baseball and hockey (too white), etc.

People around here are actually very closed-minded and ignorant, but it’s amusing to hear them arrogantly proclaim how “educated” they believe themselves to be.


Congrats for winning the dumbest post ever on DCUM.

If you weren’t so closed minded (and afraid of Black people) you’d know that football is big in DC and always has been. And the same people who play football in DC are the people in ROTC in high school who enlist right after graduation. If you knew any Black and Latino people in DC, you’d know this.

And this “hate the flag” BS is rich. DC is actually made of up 96% people whose political party DIDN’T try to overthrow the American government.

We are the Americans, traitor.
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Anonymous wrote:People around here think football is for poor people. They cite CTE and concussions while driving their kids to equally dangerous sports.

like what?


Lots of sports are equally or more dangerous than football. Cheerleading, gymnastics, basketball, boxing, skateboarding, hockey, equestrian...



How many schools around here offer skateboarding, hockey and equestrian? Cheerleading and gymnastics aren't even remotely popular (nor are hockey and equestrian for that matter) in this area. I'd love to see what status you have for basketball being as dangerous as football. I'm still waiting to here what equally dangerous sports people around here are having their kids to


If you limit your definition of "severe" to only injuries to the brain, then basketball isnt close. But if you expand the definition of severe to other parts of the body, basketball becomes very dangerous. Basketball actually results in the most visits to the ER

https://www.healthgrades.com/right-care/sports-medicine/7-sports-most-likely-to-cause-injuries

Seems to be a lot of foot / ankle injuries w basketball.


Also anecdotally a lot of heart issues in bball too — maybe more to do with height?

Hockey is also CTE prone
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Because we are an incredibly educated community and we know that CTE is real and want our kids to have a future.




Exactly this.
Anonymous
Same reason I won’t have DD do soccer - head injuries
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Same reason I won’t have DD do soccer - head injuries


This is the only reasonable post on this entire thread.

Almost all of the posters claiming to be more intelligent than the families which allow tackle are just fooling themselves if they allow any of the sports like soccer, lacrosse or hockey, etc
Anonymous
Right now is a perfect example. Colleges still running camps outside for hours in code red air conditions because it's not about the kids. It's a modern plantation system where colleges and professional leagues have the masters / coaches fighting all over themselves to make the most money for the owners. The players/kids get crushed underfoot. There isn't an ounce of concern for the players-- and that's the culture. People don't want that for their kids unless it's one of the only ways out of poverty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t follow the distinction between football and lacrosse, where kids are really physical and whacking at each other with sticks. I get people who allow neither, but drawing a line between the two doesn’t add up.


Comparing the two, it's not the same level, intensity, and frequency of contact directly to and/or impacting the player's head... not even close. I know it's not true but it's as if you've never watched a game of either of them.

And again, as it's been said in this thread and elsewhere - the current research suggests that it's not necessarily the concussion events that contribute to CTE and long-term compromised brain health, it's the frequent repetitive sub-concussive blows that occur every play of a football game that are to blame.



I am happy to be corrected but I don’t know if any youth only FB players that have been diagnosed with CTE. CTE can only be diagnosed after death by examining the brain. Most youth that play football (like 98%) will never even go on the play at college level so where are people getting these stats? Also of course there are no of any deceased female soccer players, pro/college/or youth that have been examined for CTE so how can anyone say with certainty it’s not a risk?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t follow the distinction between football and lacrosse, where kids are really physical and whacking at each other with sticks. I get people who allow neither, but drawing a line between the two doesn’t add up.


Comparing the two, it's not the same level, intensity, and frequency of contact directly to and/or impacting the player's head... not even close. I know it's not true but it's as if you've never watched a game of either of them.

And again, as it's been said in this thread and elsewhere - the current research suggests that it's not necessarily the concussion events that contribute to CTE and long-term compromised brain health, it's the frequent repetitive sub-concussive blows that occur every play of a football game that are to blame.



I am happy to be corrected but I don’t know if any youth only FB players that have been diagnosed with CTE. CTE can only be diagnosed after death by examining the brain. Most youth that play football (like 98%) will never even go on the play at college level so where are people getting these stats? Also of course there are no of any deceased female soccer players, pro/college/or youth that have been examined for CTE so how can anyone say with certainty it’s not a risk?



Crippling brain injury from football can start early, even among high school players, a new study suggests.

And its effects can last over time, even without additional head impacts, researchers report.

Football players can develop chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) after playing high school football, although higher rates of CTE are tied to college and pro football, the researchers said.

"Unfortunately, we found CTE in people who only played high school football and passed away at a very young age," said lead author Dr. Daniel Daneshvar, from Boston University's School of Medicine CTE Center.
[...]


More:

https://consumer.healthday.com/kids-health-information-23/child-safety-news-587/brain-condition-cte-seen-in-h-s-football-players-study-743006.html

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Same reason I won’t have DD do soccer - head injuries


This is the only reasonable post on this entire thread.

Almost all of the posters claiming to be more intelligent than the families which allow tackle are just fooling themselves if they allow any of the sports like soccer, lacrosse or hockey, etc


It's not that those sports have no risk, it's just less risk and different risks.

Further, if it's your contention that the risk of CTE and to long-term brain health is the same for those sports as it is for football, that's just wrong and delusional. Fortunately, at this point, more and more people understand this.

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