MacArthur High School

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Well Banneker wants a certain type of Black kid, i.e. not UMC. Couldn't even get an interview but got into Walls and private schools that flat out rejected peers. So we know the recs and everything was in order. Kid has friends at Banneker and they are very different schools. I didn't realize how different until the kids started comparing.

Back to MacArthur--strong leadership appears to be in place. Really hope he does well and the school thrives. The more good options, the better.
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Better football team, right, that's the ticket to cracking the elite colleges for top students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Better football team, right, that's the ticket to cracking the elite colleges for top students.


Neither Banneker or SWW have a Football team. This thread is now getting out of hand and needs to get back to the topic at hand.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Weird post.

First, you are just looking at what percentage of kids are at grade level. Second, why would people only look at test scores based on race and choose a school just based on that factor. Do you think socioeconomic status doesn't matter? What about Hispanics, mixed race kids, etc.? Third, there are only a handful of white kids at Banneker. Banneker is only 4% white, while Walls is 51% white. Fourth, while there are a lot more black students at Walls than white students at Banneker, the numbers are still very different at the schools. Banneker is 70% black while Walls is 23% black. Fifth, this who exercise seems kind of racist.

Look at the PARCC proficiency numbers for both schools:

Walls

94.35 ELA
54.97 math

Banneker

91.46 ELA
55.43 math

In short, most of the kids at both schools are grade level but Walls is a bit stronger here. Yea, grade level!

And drill down and look at how many kids received 5s (above grade level):

Walls
61.84 ELA
--- math (numbers suppressed by DCPS)

Banneker
37.01 ELA
3.00 math

Based on this, Walls is way ahead of Banneker in terms of kids performing ELA above grade level and we don't have the data for math (but very few Banneker kids are above grade level in math).

And then, of course, you get the issue that the average SAT score at Walls is way above the average score at Banneker.

The bottom line is that the academics are better at Walls than Banneker.


Thank you for breaking it down for us. Good summary.


NP. Yeah great summary for someone that thinks comparing At Risk Black SAT scores at Banneker and Wealthy White kids at Walls. Why exactly does PP lot want to compare the white kids at each school? Everyone knows comparing apples to apples will address this matter in no time. But let’s continue to compare this wealthy privileged kids to the 1/3 at-risk kids and arbitrarily claim Walls is “way ahead”. Ridiculous.

The bar continues to move. Now it’s who scores 5s. Okay why don’t you compare the at risk kids that score 5s at each school. Then compare the white kids af each school.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Weird post.

First, you are just looking at what percentage of kids are at grade level. Second, why would people only look at test scores based on race and choose a school just based on that factor. Do you think socioeconomic status doesn't matter? What about Hispanics, mixed race kids, etc.? Third, there are only a handful of white kids at Banneker. Banneker is only 4% white, while Walls is 51% white. Fourth, while there are a lot more black students at Walls than white students at Banneker, the numbers are still very different at the schools. Banneker is 70% black while Walls is 23% black. Fifth, this who exercise seems kind of racist.

Look at the PARCC proficiency numbers for both schools:

Walls

94.35 ELA
54.97 math

Banneker

91.46 ELA
55.43 math

In short, most of the kids at both schools are grade level but Walls is a bit stronger here. Yea, grade level!

And drill down and look at how many kids received 5s (above grade level):

Walls
61.84 ELA
--- math (numbers suppressed by DCPS)

Banneker
37.01 ELA
3.00 math

Based on this, Walls is way ahead of Banneker in terms of kids performing ELA above grade level and we don't have the data for math (but very few Banneker kids are above grade level in math).

And then, of course, you get the issue that the average SAT score at Walls is way above the average score at Banneker.

The bottom line is that the academics are better at Walls than Banneker.


Thank you for breaking it down for us. Good summary.


NP. Yeah great summary for someone that thinks comparing At Risk Black SAT scores at Banneker and Wealthy White kids at Walls. Why exactly does PP lot want to compare the white kids at each school? Everyone knows comparing apples to apples will address this matter in no time. But let’s continue to compare this wealthy privileged kids to the 1/3 at-risk kids and arbitrarily claim Walls is “way ahead”. Ridiculous.

The bar continues to move. Now it’s who scores 5s. Okay why don’t you compare the at risk kids that score 5s at each school. Then compare the white kids af each school.


Yeah, they only want to compare 5s because the Walls number for math 5s is suppressed. However, Walls reported 83 kids testing proficient in math and 82 kids scoring 4. So if you have any math skills at all, you know that they had one (1) student scoring 5. Banneker had 8.

Walls does have more (and a higher percentage of) students scoring 5s on ELA. At the end of the day, they’re both good schools. I personally know strong students who are doing well at both, and I think we are lucky as a city to have them both. And I hope that MacArthur quickly joins them (and JR, and some charters) as a good option for college-bound high school students in DC.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Weird post.

First, you are just looking at what percentage of kids are at grade level. Second, why would people only look at test scores based on race and choose a school just based on that factor. Do you think socioeconomic status doesn't matter? What about Hispanics, mixed race kids, etc.? Third, there are only a handful of white kids at Banneker. Banneker is only 4% white, while Walls is 51% white. Fourth, while there are a lot more black students at Walls than white students at Banneker, the numbers are still very different at the schools. Banneker is 70% black while Walls is 23% black. Fifth, this who exercise seems kind of racist.

Look at the PARCC proficiency numbers for both schools:

Walls

94.35 ELA
54.97 math

Banneker

91.46 ELA
55.43 math

In short, most of the kids at both schools are grade level but Walls is a bit stronger here. Yea, grade level!

And drill down and look at how many kids received 5s (above grade level):

Walls
61.84 ELA
--- math (numbers suppressed by DCPS)

Banneker
37.01 ELA
3.00 math

Based on this, Walls is way ahead of Banneker in terms of kids performing ELA above grade level and we don't have the data for math (but very few Banneker kids are above grade level in math).

And then, of course, you get the issue that the average SAT score at Walls is way above the average score at Banneker.

The bottom line is that the academics are better at Walls than Banneker.



My kid at Banneker doesn’t take PARCC math because he’s not at grade level for math, he’s two years ahead. He’s never taken PARCC math while at Banneker. He’s not the only student in this situation either.

Also SAT scores track closely to SES. Kids are wealthier at Walls.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Weird post.

First, you are just looking at what percentage of kids are at grade level. Second, why would people only look at test scores based on race and choose a school just based on that factor. Do you think socioeconomic status doesn't matter? What about Hispanics, mixed race kids, etc.? Third, there are only a handful of white kids at Banneker. Banneker is only 4% white, while Walls is 51% white. Fourth, while there are a lot more black students at Walls than white students at Banneker, the numbers are still very different at the schools. Banneker is 70% black while Walls is 23% black. Fifth, this who exercise seems kind of racist.

Look at the PARCC proficiency numbers for both schools:

Walls

94.35 ELA
54.97 math

Banneker

91.46 ELA
55.43 math

In short, most of the kids at both schools are grade level but Walls is a bit stronger here. Yea, grade level!

And drill down and look at how many kids received 5s (above grade level):

Walls
61.84 ELA
--- math (numbers suppressed by DCPS)

Banneker
37.01 ELA
3.00 math

Based on this, Walls is way ahead of Banneker in terms of kids performing ELA above grade level and we don't have the data for math (but very few Banneker kids are above grade level in math).

And then, of course, you get the issue that the average SAT score at Walls is way above the average score at Banneker.

The bottom line is that the academics are better at Walls than Banneker.



My kid at Banneker doesn’t take PARCC math because he’s not at grade level for math, he’s two years ahead. He’s never taken PARCC math while at Banneker. He’s not the only student in this situation either.

Also SAT scores track closely to SES. Kids are wealthier at Walls.


Do you wish Banneker offered higher level math for your kid and others like him? Doesn’t Banneker top out at AP Calculus AB?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Weird post.

First, you are just looking at what percentage of kids are at grade level. Second, why would people only look at test scores based on race and choose a school just based on that factor. Do you think socioeconomic status doesn't matter? What about Hispanics, mixed race kids, etc.? Third, there are only a handful of white kids at Banneker. Banneker is only 4% white, while Walls is 51% white. Fourth, while there are a lot more black students at Walls than white students at Banneker, the numbers are still very different at the schools. Banneker is 70% black while Walls is 23% black. Fifth, this who exercise seems kind of racist.

Look at the PARCC proficiency numbers for both schools:

Walls

94.35 ELA
54.97 math

Banneker

91.46 ELA
55.43 math

In short, most of the kids at both schools are grade level but Walls is a bit stronger here. Yea, grade level!

And drill down and look at how many kids received 5s (above grade level):

Walls
61.84 ELA
--- math (numbers suppressed by DCPS)

Banneker
37.01 ELA
3.00 math

Based on this, Walls is way ahead of Banneker in terms of kids performing ELA above grade level and we don't have the data for math (but very few Banneker kids are above grade level in math).

And then, of course, you get the issue that the average SAT score at Walls is way above the average score at Banneker.

The bottom line is that the academics are better at Walls than Banneker.



My kid at Banneker doesn’t take PARCC math because he’s not at grade level for math, he’s two years ahead. He’s never taken PARCC math while at Banneker. He’s not the only student in this situation either.

Also SAT scores track closely to SES. Kids are wealthier at Walls.


Do you wish Banneker offered higher level math for your kid and others like him? Doesn’t Banneker top out at AP Calculus AB?


Not sure what you’re talking about? They will have math classes for the cohort.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Weird post.

First, you are just looking at what percentage of kids are at grade level. Second, why would people only look at test scores based on race and choose a school just based on that factor. Do you think socioeconomic status doesn't matter? What about Hispanics, mixed race kids, etc.? Third, there are only a handful of white kids at Banneker. Banneker is only 4% white, while Walls is 51% white. Fourth, while there are a lot more black students at Walls than white students at Banneker, the numbers are still very different at the schools. Banneker is 70% black while Walls is 23% black. Fifth, this who exercise seems kind of racist.

Look at the PARCC proficiency numbers for both schools:

Walls

94.35 ELA
54.97 math

Banneker

91.46 ELA
55.43 math

In short, most of the kids at both schools are grade level but Walls is a bit stronger here. Yea, grade level!

And drill down and look at how many kids received 5s (above grade level):

Walls
61.84 ELA
--- math (numbers suppressed by DCPS)

Banneker
37.01 ELA
3.00 math

Based on this, Walls is way ahead of Banneker in terms of kids performing ELA above grade level and we don't have the data for math (but very few Banneker kids are above grade level in math).

And then, of course, you get the issue that the average SAT score at Walls is way above the average score at Banneker.

The bottom line is that the academics are better at Walls than Banneker.



My kid at Banneker doesn’t take PARCC math because he’s not at grade level for math, he’s two years ahead. He’s never taken PARCC math while at Banneker. He’s not the only student in this situation either.

Also SAT scores track closely to SES. Kids are wealthier at Walls.


What? Schools don't excuse you from taking PARCC because you are above grade level. The test is given to all students. Now, if you opt not to send your kid to take the test, that is your choice--not the school's. If he is 2 years ahead, let us know what grade he is in and what math course he is taking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Weird post.

First, you are just looking at what percentage of kids are at grade level. Second, why would people only look at test scores based on race and choose a school just based on that factor. Do you think socioeconomic status doesn't matter? What about Hispanics, mixed race kids, etc.? Third, there are only a handful of white kids at Banneker. Banneker is only 4% white, while Walls is 51% white. Fourth, while there are a lot more black students at Walls than white students at Banneker, the numbers are still very different at the schools. Banneker is 70% black while Walls is 23% black. Fifth, this who exercise seems kind of racist.

Look at the PARCC proficiency numbers for both schools:

Walls

94.35 ELA
54.97 math

Banneker

91.46 ELA
55.43 math

In short, most of the kids at both schools are grade level but Walls is a bit stronger here. Yea, grade level!

And drill down and look at how many kids received 5s (above grade level):

Walls
61.84 ELA
--- math (numbers suppressed by DCPS)

Banneker
37.01 ELA
3.00 math

Based on this, Walls is way ahead of Banneker in terms of kids performing ELA above grade level and we don't have the data for math (but very few Banneker kids are above grade level in math).

And then, of course, you get the issue that the average SAT score at Walls is way above the average score at Banneker.

The bottom line is that the academics are better at Walls than Banneker.



My kid at Banneker doesn’t take PARCC math because he’s not at grade level for math, he’s two years ahead. He’s never taken PARCC math while at Banneker. He’s not the only student in this situation either.

Also SAT scores track closely to SES. Kids are wealthier at Walls.


What? Schools don't excuse you from taking PARCC because you are above grade level. The test is given to all students. Now, if you opt not to send your kid to take the test, that is your choice--not the school's. If he is 2 years ahead, let us know what grade he is in and what math course he is taking.


I think posters who keep insisting that data show Walls being better than Banneker are ridiculous, it seems to me that both schools are doing great. however, I have the same comments on the PARCC score. my 8th grader is doing Geometry and Algebra II at Deal, so three years ahead and she took the PARCC like several other kids who are ahead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Weird post.

First, you are just looking at what percentage of kids are at grade level. Second, why would people only look at test scores based on race and choose a school just based on that factor. Do you think socioeconomic status doesn't matter? What about Hispanics, mixed race kids, etc.? Third, there are only a handful of white kids at Banneker. Banneker is only 4% white, while Walls is 51% white. Fourth, while there are a lot more black students at Walls than white students at Banneker, the numbers are still very different at the schools. Banneker is 70% black while Walls is 23% black. Fifth, this who exercise seems kind of racist.

Look at the PARCC proficiency numbers for both schools:

Walls

94.35 ELA
54.97 math

Banneker

91.46 ELA
55.43 math

In short, most of the kids at both schools are grade level but Walls is a bit stronger here. Yea, grade level!

And drill down and look at how many kids received 5s (above grade level):

Walls
61.84 ELA
--- math (numbers suppressed by DCPS)

Banneker
37.01 ELA
3.00 math

Based on this, Walls is way ahead of Banneker in terms of kids performing ELA above grade level and we don't have the data for math (but very few Banneker kids are above grade level in math).

And then, of course, you get the issue that the average SAT score at Walls is way above the average score at Banneker.

The bottom line is that the academics are better at Walls than Banneker.



My kid at Banneker doesn’t take PARCC math because he’s not at grade level for math, he’s two years ahead. He’s never taken PARCC math while at Banneker. He’s not the only student in this situation either.

Also SAT scores track closely to SES. Kids are wealthier at Walls.


What? Schools don't excuse you from taking PARCC because you are above grade level. The test is given to all students. Now, if you opt not to send your kid to take the test, that is your choice--not the school's. If he is 2 years ahead, let us know what grade he is in and what math course he is taking.


I think posters who keep insisting that data show Walls being better than Banneker are ridiculous, it seems to me that both schools are doing great. however, I have the same comments on the PARCC score. my 8th grader is doing Geometry and Algebra II at Deal, so three years ahead and she took the PARCC like several other kids who are ahead.


Yes, schools don’t excuse you from taking PARCC just because you’re ahead. However, Algebra II is the last PARCC. Students past Algebra II are done.

(And as a practical matter, a lot of students seem to never take the Algebra II PARCC. I don't know why. Maybe it’s because they’re mostly juniors and are required to take the SAT, which covers the same material.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Weird post.

First, you are just looking at what percentage of kids are at grade level. Second, why would people only look at test scores based on race and choose a school just based on that factor. Do you think socioeconomic status doesn't matter? What about Hispanics, mixed race kids, etc.? Third, there are only a handful of white kids at Banneker. Banneker is only 4% white, while Walls is 51% white. Fourth, while there are a lot more black students at Walls than white students at Banneker, the numbers are still very different at the schools. Banneker is 70% black while Walls is 23% black. Fifth, this who exercise seems kind of racist.

Look at the PARCC proficiency numbers for both schools:

Walls

94.35 ELA
54.97 math

Banneker

91.46 ELA
55.43 math

In short, most of the kids at both schools are grade level but Walls is a bit stronger here. Yea, grade level!

And drill down and look at how many kids received 5s (above grade level):

Walls
61.84 ELA
--- math (numbers suppressed by DCPS)

Banneker
37.01 ELA
3.00 math

Based on this, Walls is way ahead of Banneker in terms of kids performing ELA above grade level and we don't have the data for math (but very few Banneker kids are above grade level in math).

And then, of course, you get the issue that the average SAT score at Walls is way above the average score at Banneker.

The bottom line is that the academics are better at Walls than Banneker.



My kid at Banneker doesn’t take PARCC math because he’s not at grade level for math, he’s two years ahead. He’s never taken PARCC math while at Banneker. He’s not the only student in this situation either.

Also SAT scores track closely to SES. Kids are wealthier at Walls.


Do you wish Banneker offered higher level math for your kid and others like him? Doesn’t Banneker top out at AP Calculus AB?


Not sure what you’re talking about? They will have math classes for the cohort.


Can you be more specific? What math classes will they offer for this cohort?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Weird post.

First, you are just looking at what percentage of kids are at grade level. Second, why would people only look at test scores based on race and choose a school just based on that factor. Do you think socioeconomic status doesn't matter? What about Hispanics, mixed race kids, etc.? Third, there are only a handful of white kids at Banneker. Banneker is only 4% white, while Walls is 51% white. Fourth, while there are a lot more black students at Walls than white students at Banneker, the numbers are still very different at the schools. Banneker is 70% black while Walls is 23% black. Fifth, this who exercise seems kind of racist.

Look at the PARCC proficiency numbers for both schools:

Walls

94.35 ELA
54.97 math

Banneker

91.46 ELA
55.43 math

In short, most of the kids at both schools are grade level but Walls is a bit stronger here. Yea, grade level!

And drill down and look at how many kids received 5s (above grade level):

Walls
61.84 ELA
--- math (numbers suppressed by DCPS)

Banneker
37.01 ELA
3.00 math

Based on this, Walls is way ahead of Banneker in terms of kids performing ELA above grade level and we don't have the data for math (but very few Banneker kids are above grade level in math).

And then, of course, you get the issue that the average SAT score at Walls is way above the average score at Banneker.

The bottom line is that the academics are better at Walls than Banneker.



My kid at Banneker doesn’t take PARCC math because he’s not at grade level for math, he’s two years ahead. He’s never taken PARCC math while at Banneker. He’s not the only student in this situation either.

Also SAT scores track closely to SES. Kids are wealthier at Walls.


What? Schools don't excuse you from taking PARCC because you are above grade level. The test is given to all students. Now, if you opt not to send your kid to take the test, that is your choice--not the school's. If he is 2 years ahead, let us know what grade he is in and what math course he is taking.


I think posters who keep insisting that data show Walls being better than Banneker are ridiculous, it seems to me that both schools are doing great. however, I have the same comments on the PARCC score. my 8th grader is doing Geometry and Algebra II at Deal, so three years ahead and she took the PARCC like several other kids who are ahead.


Yes, schools don’t excuse you from taking PARCC just because you’re ahead. However, Algebra II is the last PARCC. Students past Algebra II are done.

(And as a practical matter, a lot of students seem to never take the Algebra II PARCC. I don't know why. Maybe it’s because they’re mostly juniors and are required to take the SAT, which covers the same material.)


They do. My kid didn’t take the math section of PARCC. I didn’t opt him out. He is in a class with majority seniors. They didn’t take it.
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The MacArthur Vice Principal and head of operations were at our elementary school last week during dropoff hours to discuss the new HS with parents.

I had only a brief discussion with them but came away impressed. The VP said that the renovations right now are just sprucing up to get the school ready for this year. He stated that DCPS will be spending $85M over the next two years to do a true gut renovation and will construct new buildings/expand existing footprints. He said it’s going to a big construction job.

I wonder if anyone heard anything else? Sounds like they will be touring all the feeder schools in the next week or two.
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Anonymous wrote:If your kid is black, you should prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for black students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for black students is more than 20 points higher at Banneker (52% to 29%).

But if your kid is white, you should also prefer Banneker: the ELA proficiency rate for white students at the two schools is tied, but the math proficiency rate for white students is almost 20 points higher at Banneker (80% to 63%).

That’s the reason for what 9:19 is calling “skew” in the US News rankings. They’re weighting for demographics to capture the fact that although overall white kids do better than black kids at both schools, and there are more white kids at Walls, both groups do better at Banneker. Which seems like a relevant consideration, when ranking schools.


Weird post.

First, you are just looking at what percentage of kids are at grade level. Second, why would people only look at test scores based on race and choose a school just based on that factor. Do you think socioeconomic status doesn't matter? What about Hispanics, mixed race kids, etc.? Third, there are only a handful of white kids at Banneker. Banneker is only 4% white, while Walls is 51% white. Fourth, while there are a lot more black students at Walls than white students at Banneker, the numbers are still very different at the schools. Banneker is 70% black while Walls is 23% black. Fifth, this who exercise seems kind of racist.

Look at the PARCC proficiency numbers for both schools:

Walls

94.35 ELA
54.97 math

Banneker

91.46 ELA
55.43 math

In short, most of the kids at both schools are grade level but Walls is a bit stronger here. Yea, grade level!

And drill down and look at how many kids received 5s (above grade level):

Walls
61.84 ELA
--- math (numbers suppressed by DCPS)

Banneker
37.01 ELA
3.00 math

Based on this, Walls is way ahead of Banneker in terms of kids performing ELA above grade level and we don't have the data for math (but very few Banneker kids are above grade level in math).

And then, of course, you get the issue that the average SAT score at Walls is way above the average score at Banneker.

The bottom line is that the academics are better at Walls than Banneker.



My kid at Banneker doesn’t take PARCC math because he’s not at grade level for math, he’s two years ahead. He’s never taken PARCC math while at Banneker. He’s not the only student in this situation either.

Also SAT scores track closely to SES. Kids are wealthier at Walls.


Do you wish Banneker offered higher level math for your kid and others like him? Doesn’t Banneker top out at AP Calculus AB?


Not sure what you’re talking about? They will have math classes for the cohort.


Can you be more specific? What math classes will they offer for this cohort?
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Exactly, what grade is your kid in and what math course - Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra II?
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