Why choose West Point?

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Anonymous wrote:Because he wants to be in the Army. Why is this confusing?

One of the most impressive men I know went to West Point and later the Army paid for his master's degree at Harvard. He was a career Army guy, then retired and now in consulting. And, no, his parents didn't push him into it or have a family history of going to West Point.

Why not do ROTC and have a normal college experience?

The pay, pensions, housing allowance, GI bill etc are nothing spectacular financially compared to what people graduating from West Point’s peer schools make. If you want to be in the army for your own reasons (family tradition, wanting to serve, honor), go right ahead, but don’t do it for the money, because the total compensation is not stellar.

Because they want the West Point experience. And, for people who make a career in the Army there is definitely prestige to being a West Point grad. Obviously, people choosing a military career are not doing it for the money. Just as people who choose many other careers do not make money the top priority. I know, hard for some DCUMs to understand.

Whatever. They stand out as national leaders so are the no 1 producers of Rhodes scholars. May go on to Oxford viA the Marshall, the Fulbright and other prestige scholarships. Read wiki. The are all astounding athletes


Because there is a huge leap from West Point to any of the rotc schools. Wht do you think westpoint is the no one public producer of Rhodes scholars in the US. It’s the best of the best

Most kids at WP scored in the 1300s on the SAT

Snort. 1360. Like your kid could even get the congressional recommend on top of the athletic requirements. Go read “admissions” under United States Military Academy.

There are shit ton of kids with 1400 SAT and play varsity sports.
Most of these kids meet that 'athletic requirement'.

[Anonymous]

My dad is a West Point grad and he always seemed regretful that he didn’t have a traditional college experience. (It was way more strict when he was there in the 60s than it is now apparently.) Still, he has devoted his retirement years to helping high school candidates in his town navigate the application process. And his social network is still almost entirely made up of his fellow West Pointers. There’s a lifelong bond that comes out of a unique experience like that. It’s a culture unto itself and a scaffold to build a career and life on.

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Anonymous wrote:Because he wants to be in the Army. Why is this confusing?

One of the most impressive men I know went to West Point and later the Army paid for his master's degree at Harvard. He was a career Army guy, then retired and now in consulting. And, no, his parents didn't push him into it or have a family history of going to West Point.

Why not do ROTC and have a normal college experience?

The pay, pensions, housing allowance, GI bill etc are nothing spectacular financially compared to what people graduating from West Point’s peer schools make. If you want to be in the army for your own reasons (family tradition, wanting to serve, honor), go right ahead, but don’t do it for the money, because the total compensation is not stellar.

Because they want the West Point experience. And, for people who make a career in the Army there is definitely prestige to being a West Point grad. Obviously, people choosing a military career are not doing it for the money. Just as people who choose many other careers do not make money the top priority. I know, hard for some DCUMs to understand.

Whatever. They stand out as national leaders so are the no 1 producers of Rhodes scholars. May go on to Oxford viA the Marshall, the Fulbright and other prestige scholarships. Read wiki. The are all astounding athletes


Because there is a huge leap from West Point to any of the rotc schools. Wht do you think westpoint is the no one public producer of Rhodes scholars in the US. It’s the best of the best

Most kids at WP scored in the 1300s on the SAT

Snort. 1360. Like your kid could even get the congressional recommend on top of the athletic requirements. Go read “admissions” under United States Military Academy.

There are shit ton of kids with 1400 SAT and play varsity sports.
Most of these kids meet that 'athletic requirement'.

The 25-75% test scores have an SAT score between 1200 and 1440 or an ACT score of 28 and 33. Most of the students admitted to West Point have an SAT score in the 1300s.

[Anonymous]

The physical requirements are probably not any harder than the physical requirements when you get enlisted.

Enough of the 'physical requirement' boostering.

[Anonymous]

DCUM really allows people to be critical of others’ life decisions.

Want to attend an Ivy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.
Want to attend an Academy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.

Are we really trying to decide which is more prestigious, harder to attend, etc? Who cares? Attending either is an amazing achievement.

I’m a teacher. My school sends outstanding students to both Ivy schools and Academies each year. They are top of the class, extremely high achievers. Why would I ever sit here and try to quantify which of these students are better than others? They are all impressive students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM really allows people to be critical of others’ life decisions.

Want to attend an Ivy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.
Want to attend an Academy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.

Are we really trying to decide which is more prestigious, harder to attend, etc? Who cares? Attending either is an amazing achievement.

I’m a teacher. My school sends outstanding students to both Ivy schools and Academies each year. They are top of the class, extremely high achievers. Why would I ever sit here and try to quantify which of these students are better than others? They are all impressive students.

How about a kid who want to attend an school ranked #55

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM really allows people to be critical of others’ life decisions.

Want to attend an Ivy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.
Want to attend an Academy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.

Are we really trying to decide which is more prestigious, harder to attend, etc? Who cares? Attending either is an amazing achievement.

I’m a teacher. My school sends outstanding students to both Ivy schools and Academies each year. They are top of the class, extremely high achievers. Why would I ever sit here and try to quantify which of these students are better than others? They are all impressive students.

Define top of the class.
is 1400 SAT top of the class at your school?

Data doesn't agree with your claim.
People are here for accurate information.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM really allows people to be critical of others’ life decisions.

Want to attend an Ivy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.
Want to attend an Academy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.

Are we really trying to decide which is more prestigious, harder to attend, etc? Who cares? Attending either is an amazing achievement.

I’m a teacher. My school sends outstanding students to both Ivy schools and Academies each year. They are top of the class, extremely high achievers. Why would I ever sit here and try to quantify which of these students are better than others? They are all impressive students.

How about a kid who want to attend an school ranked #55

DP but I would be extremely proud since rank #55 out of thousands of colleges in the US is pretty impressive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM really allows people to be critical of others’ life decisions.

Want to attend an Ivy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.
Want to attend an Academy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.

Are we really trying to decide which is more prestigious, harder to attend, etc? Who cares? Attending either is an amazing achievement.

I’m a teacher. My school sends outstanding students to both Ivy schools and Academies each year. They are top of the class, extremely high achievers. Why would I ever sit here and try to quantify which of these students are better than others? They are all impressive students.

Define top of the class.
is 1400 SAT top of the class at your school?

Data doesn't agree with your claim.
People are here for accurate information.

No. People are here to brag, judge, and make themselves feel better in an anonymous forum while talking a lot about things they really don't know. If they can put someone down or call someone a name that is a bonus. This is DCUM. Please...

[Anonymous]

He likely has political ambitions and knows West Point would be a great move.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM really allows people to be critical of others’ life decisions.

Want to attend an Ivy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.
Want to attend an Academy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.

Are we really trying to decide which is more prestigious, harder to attend, etc? Who cares? Attending either is an amazing achievement.

I’m a teacher. My school sends outstanding students to both Ivy schools and Academies each year. They are top of the class, extremely high achievers. Why would I ever sit here and try to quantify which of these students are better than others? They are all impressive students.

Define top of the class.
is 1400 SAT top of the class at your school?

Data doesn't agree with your claim.
People are here for accurate information.

What “accurate information” can you possibly be looking for on this thread? What claim did I make, other than both types of admissions are impressive?

If my students are getting into these schools, I’m assuming their SATs are well over 1400. That said: I am also well aware that their SAT scores are a small, small part of the overall package. That’s why I’m not sure all the SAT talk here is worth the time people put into it. It’s a test, one which doesn’t clearly illustrate aptitude or intellect.

I agree with the previous poster. Many people come here to put others down, as if somehow a DCUM poster’s self-worth is wrapped up in other people agreeing with them. Why feel threatened if I say either road (Ivy League or service academy) is admirable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM really allows people to be critical of others’ life decisions.

Want to attend an Ivy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.
Want to attend an Academy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.

Are we really trying to decide which is more prestigious, harder to attend, etc? Who cares? Attending either is an amazing achievement.

I’m a teacher. My school sends outstanding students to both Ivy schools and Academies each year. They are top of the class, extremely high achievers. Why would I ever sit here and try to quantify which of these students are better than others? They are all impressive students.

Define top of the class.
is 1400 SAT top of the class at your school?

Data doesn't agree with your claim.
People are here for accurate information.

What “accurate information” can you possibly be looking for on this thread? What claim did I make, other than both types of admissions are impressive?

If my students are getting into these schools, I’m assuming their SATs are well over 1400. That said: I am also well aware that their SAT scores are a small, small part of the overall package. That’s why I’m not sure all the SAT talk here is worth the time people put into it. It’s a test, one which doesn’t clearly illustrate aptitude or intellect.

I agree with the previous poster. Many people come here to put others down, as if somehow a DCUM poster’s self-worth is wrapped up in other people agreeing with them. Why feel threatened if I say either road (Ivy League or service academy) is admirable?

There's huge difference between information at least with some sources and guess/assumption.

First you claimed you are a teacher establishing some sort of credentials, then you just throw out assumptions without any source while it was already proven otherwise.
Your assumptions are wrong. If you are a teacher, you need to teach your kids better than this.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/usma-media/inline-images/about/g5/G5OIR_CDS_2019-2020_FINAL.pdf
I consider this accurate information. This was when scores were mandatory.
Academically they seem pretty average at the best.
You probably have your own definition of things, so that's why I first asked your definition of 'top of the class'

[Anonymous]

So in summary, military academies could be a big bang for the buck when you are academically average, have a physical good enough to play high school sports, and you are fine with military lifestyle and even like it. 
 
Education is free, job security is very good, and it's fairly well respected in the society.
If you are well above the average and stand out, then it's even better.
So it's understandable some kids choosing this path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM really allows people to be critical of others’ life decisions.

Want to attend an Ivy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.
Want to attend an Academy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.

Are we really trying to decide which is more prestigious, harder to attend, etc? Who cares? Attending either is an amazing achievement.

I’m a teacher. My school sends outstanding students to both Ivy schools and Academies each year. They are top of the class, extremely high achievers. Why would I ever sit here and try to quantify which of these students are better than others? They are all impressive students.

Define top of the class.
is 1400 SAT top of the class at your school?

Data doesn't agree with your claim.
People are here for accurate information.

What “accurate information” can you possibly be looking for on this thread? What claim did I make, other than both types of admissions are impressive?

If my students are getting into these schools, I’m assuming their SATs are well over 1400. That said: I am also well aware that their SAT scores are a small, small part of the overall package. That’s why I’m not sure all the SAT talk here is worth the time people put into it. It’s a test, one which doesn’t clearly illustrate aptitude or intellect.

I agree with the previous poster. Many people come here to put others down, as if somehow a DCUM poster’s self-worth is wrapped up in other people agreeing with them. Why feel threatened if I say either road (Ivy League or service academy) is admirable?

There's huge difference between information at least with some sources and guess/assumption.

First you claimed you are a teacher establishing some sort of credentials, then you just throw out assumptions without any source while it was already proven otherwise.
Your assumptions are wrong. If you are a teacher, you need to teach your kids better than this.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/usma-media/inline-images/about/g5/G5OIR_CDS_2019-2020_FINAL.pdf
I consider this accurate information. This was when scores were mandatory.
Academically they seem pretty average at the best.
You probably have your own definition of things, so that's why I first asked your definition of 'top of the class'

This is hopeless. I’m not sure why you are threatened by my comment. I don’t know why you need to question my credentials… and even insult me. I have 20 years experience watching students get accepted / attend both types of schools. My honest and sincere comment that they are all impressive students offends you for some reason. It’s not worth going down that road because you are correct: I do have my own definition of things. It isn’t wrapped up in notions of superiority.

You seem to need to feel superior, hence your statement about students going to academies are “pretty average at best.” You don’t seem to even be aware of what “average” looks like. Average students aren’t going to any of these schools. (They are doing other amazing things, but can I assume you won’t care?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM really allows people to be critical of others’ life decisions.

Want to attend an Ivy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.
Want to attend an Academy? Go for it. You are an awesome person.

Are we really trying to decide which is more prestigious, harder to attend, etc? Who cares? Attending either is an amazing achievement.

I’m a teacher. My school sends outstanding students to both Ivy schools and Academies each year. They are top of the class, extremely high achievers. Why would I ever sit here and try to quantify which of these students are better than others? They are all impressive students.

Define top of the class.
is 1400 SAT top of the class at your school?

Data doesn't agree with your claim.
People are here for accurate information.

What “accurate information” can you possibly be looking for on this thread? What claim did I make, other than both types of admissions are impressive?

If my students are getting into these schools, I’m assuming their SATs are well over 1400. That said: I am also well aware that their SAT scores are a small, small part of the overall package. That’s why I’m not sure all the SAT talk here is worth the time people put into it. It’s a test, one which doesn’t clearly illustrate aptitude or intellect.

I agree with the previous poster. Many people come here to put others down, as if somehow a DCUM poster’s self-worth is wrapped up in other people agreeing with them. Why feel threatened if I say either road (Ivy League or service academy) is admirable?

There's huge difference between information at least with some sources and guess/assumption.

First you claimed you are a teacher establishing some sort of credentials, then you just throw out assumptions without any source while it was already proven otherwise.
Your assumptions are wrong. If you are a teacher, you need to teach your kids better than this.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/usma-media/inline-images/about/g5/G5OIR_CDS_2019-2020_FINAL.pdf
I consider this accurate information. This was when scores were mandatory.
Academically they seem pretty average at the best.
You probably have your own definition of things, so that's why I first asked your definition of 'top of the class'

This is hopeless. I’m not sure why you are threatened by my comment. I don’t know why you need to question my credentials… and even insult me. I have 20 years experience watching students get accepted / attend both types of schools. My honest and sincere comment that they are all impressive students offends you for some reason. It’s not worth going down that road because you are correct: I do have my own definition of things. It isn’t wrapped up in notions of superiority.

You seem to need to feel superior, hence your statement about students going to academies are “pretty average at best.” You don’t seem to even be aware of what “average” looks like. Average students aren’t going to any of these schools. (They are doing other amazing things, but can I assume you won’t care?)

I said 'Academically seem pretty average'
I have the objective source but you have your own personal definitions.