Why choose West Point?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because he wants to be in the Army. Why is this confusing?

One of the most impressive men I know went to West Point and later the Army paid for his master's degree at Harvard. He was a career Army guy, then retired and now in consulting. And, no, his parents didn't push him into it or have a family history of going to West Point.

One would hope, but I get the impression that some choose it for the selectivity and "free" tuition aspect and don't fully consider the payback requirements.

The number of students entering West Point who don't understand what they're committed to post-graduation is vanishingly small.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he wants to be in the Army. Why is this confusing?

One of the most impressive men I know went to West Point and later the Army paid for his master's degree at Harvard. He was a career Army guy, then retired and now in consulting. And, no, his parents didn't push him into it or have a family history of going to West Point.

One would hope, but I get the impression that some choose it for the selectivity and "free" tuition aspect and don't fully consider the payback requirements.

The number of students entering West Point who don't understand what they're committed to post-graduation is vanishingly small.

All the academies have some attrition before students have to commit to the military service obligation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he wants to be in the Army. Why is this confusing?

One of the most impressive men I know went to West Point and later the Army paid for his master's degree at Harvard. He was a career Army guy, then retired and now in consulting. And, no, his parents didn't push him into it or have a family history of going to West Point.

One would hope, but I get the impression that some choose it for the selectivity and "free" tuition aspect and don't fully consider the payback requirements.

The number of students entering West Point who don't understand what they're committed to post-graduation is vanishingly small.

All the academies have some attrition before students have to commit to the military service obligation.

USNA grad. I've known a number of people who decided before junior year not to continue at the Academy. But I've never known anyone who didn't understand the service obligation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he wants to be in the Army. Why is this confusing?

One of the most impressive men I know went to West Point and later the Army paid for his master's degree at Harvard. He was a career Army guy, then retired and now in consulting. And, no, his parents didn't push him into it or have a family history of going to West Point.

One would hope, but I get the impression that some choose it for the selectivity and "free" tuition aspect and don't fully consider the payback requirements.

The number of students entering West Point who don't understand what they're committed to post-graduation is vanishingly small.

There's a difference between knowing and understanding.

[Anonymous]

They regularly breathalyze drivers of cars returning to post on Friday and Saturday nights, and any one under age as well. Sanctions include arrest and permanent expulsion. This is not anything close to a college experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As you said, he is the smartest senior. He is smart for going there.

He is also brave. There will be a war during his generation, perhaps even before he graduates.

We will lose, and lots of young people will be killed, including many who went to USMA and USNA.

This. If you ever needed proof that DCUM was being trolled by paid propagandists then you have right here. Someone is going out of their way to discourage our brightest young men and women from serving in the military. And the very specific comment about submariners was super telling.

[backing away slowly]

Did you run out of tinfoil today?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our best and brightest should not be killers. Hard stop.

This is one of the dumbest things I've heard.

I agree, second to the earlier "cadets don't have ot go into active service" comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he wants to be in the Army. Why is this confusing?

One of the most impressive men I know went to West Point and later the Army paid for his master's degree at Harvard. He was a career Army guy, then retired and now in consulting. And, no, his parents didn't push him into it or have a family history of going to West Point.

Why not do ROTC and have a normal college experience?

The pay, pensions, housing allowance, GI bill etc are nothing spectacular financially compared to what people graduating from West Point’s peer schools make. If you want to be in the army for your own reasons (family tradition, wanting to serve, honor), go right ahead, but don’t do it for the money, because the total compensation is not stellar.

Because they want the West Point experience. And, for people who make a career in the Army there is definitely prestige to being a West Point grad. Obviously, people choosing a military career are not doing it for the money. Just as people who choose many other careers do not make money the top priority. I know, hard for some DCUMs to understand.

Because there is a huge leap from West Point to any of the rotc schools. Wht do you think westpoint is the no one public producer of Rhodes scholars in the US. It’s the best of the best

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he wants to be in the Army. Why is this confusing?

One of the most impressive men I know went to West Point and later the Army paid for his master's degree at Harvard. He was a career Army guy, then retired and now in consulting. And, no, his parents didn't push him into it or have a family history of going to West Point.

Why not do ROTC and have a normal college experience?

The pay, pensions, housing allowance, GI bill etc are nothing spectacular financially compared to what people graduating from West Point’s peer schools make. If you want to be in the army for your own reasons (family tradition, wanting to serve, honor), go right ahead, but don’t do it for the money, because the total compensation is not stellar.

Because they want the West Point experience. And, for people who make a career in the Army there is definitely prestige to being a West Point grad. Obviously, people choosing a military career are not doing it for the money. Just as people who choose many other careers do not make money the top priority. I know, hard for some DCUMs to understand.

Because there is a huge leap from West Point to any of the rotc schools. Wht do you think westpoint is the no one public producer of Rhodes scholars in the US. It’s the best of the best

Most kids at WP scored in the 1300s on the SAT

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone in the military, I don’t find west pointers to be the best and brightest. Many military officers are not good writers. West Point has a prep academy, and the people who take the prep academy route are largely not the best and brightest. Even if those admitted directly to USMA, the 25-75% test scores have an SAT score between 1200 and 1440 or an ACT score of 28 and 33. That’s not really that high considering the test scores of many students around here.

The college experience is terrible. Very competitive with your peers and many socially inept students. The attrition rate is between 15-30%. So many students leave before they finish their first year. Almost no social life. It permitted to be in a closed room with an opposite sex cadet.

Graduates start as 2d lieutenants. The same as direct commissionees. Starting pay is around $50k plus housing allowance. The retirement model has shifted, so lower percentage of pay after 20 years.

DS wanted to apply, and I discouraged him.

You claim to know a lot about WP for someone who did not attend....

He said he was in the military

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he wants to be in the Army. Why is this confusing?

One of the most impressive men I know went to West Point and later the Army paid for his master's degree at Harvard. He was a career Army guy, then retired and now in consulting. And, no, his parents didn't push him into it or have a family history of going to West Point.

Why not do ROTC and have a normal college experience?

The pay, pensions, housing allowance, GI bill etc are nothing spectacular financially compared to what people graduating from West Point’s peer schools make. If you want to be in the army for your own reasons (family tradition, wanting to serve, honor), go right ahead, but don’t do it for the money, because the total compensation is not stellar.

Because they want the West Point experience. And, for people who make a career in the Army there is definitely prestige to being a West Point grad. Obviously, people choosing a military career are not doing it for the money. Just as people who choose many other careers do not make money the top priority. I know, hard for some DCUMs to understand.

Whatever. They stand out as national leaders so are the no 1 producers of Rhodes scholars. May go on to Oxford viA the Marshall, the Fulbright and other prestige scholarships. Read wiki. The are all astounding athletes


Because there is a huge leap from West Point to any of the rotc schools. Wht do you think westpoint is the no one public producer of Rhodes scholars in the US. It’s the best of the best

Most kids at WP scored in the 1300s on the SAT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They regularly breathalyze drivers of cars returning to post on Friday and Saturday nights, and any one under age as well. Sanctions include arrest and permanent expulsion. This is not anything close to a college experience.

No. Here’s the code of conduct involving alcohol. Imagine one of those drinking men might be trying out a 1 M1 Adam yo
Tomorrow and have his entire battalion to lose. Or working with warheads or other dangerous ordnances. https://www.westpoint.edu/sites/default/files/pdf%20stage2/USCC%2520Policy%2520Letter%25205-%2520Corps%2520Alcohol%2520and%2520Drug%2520Policy.pdf. That why all military school build the esprit de corps because the men must be allowed to rely upon their fellow men and women. Drugs, sex or alcohol problem? You’re out. Medical or mental problem, you’re out. Applicants with ADHD and other mental or learning problems cannot even apply. Look it up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They regularly breathalyze drivers of cars returning to post on Friday and Saturday nights, and any one under age as well. Sanctions include arrest and permanent expulsion. This is not anything close to a college experience.

No. Here’s the code of conduct involving alcohol. Imagine one of those drinking men might be trying out a 1 M1 Adam yo
Tomorrow and have his entire battalion to lose. Or working with warheads or other dangerous ordnances. https://www.westpoint.edu/sites/default/files/pdf%20stage2/USCC%2520Policy%2520Letter%25205-%2520Corps%2520Alcohol%2520and%2520Drug%2520Policy.pdf. That why all military school build the esprit de corps because the men must be allowed to rely upon their fellow men and women. Drugs, sex or alcohol problem? You’re out. Medical or mental problem, you’re out. Applicants with ADHD and other mental or learning problems cannot even apply. Look it up

^the M1 Adams tank, the fastest tank in the world

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he wants to be in the Army. Why is this confusing?

One of the most impressive men I know went to West Point and later the Army paid for his master's degree at Harvard. He was a career Army guy, then retired and now in consulting. And, no, his parents didn't push him into it or have a family history of going to West Point.

Why not do ROTC and have a normal college experience?

The pay, pensions, housing allowance, GI bill etc are nothing spectacular financially compared to what people graduating from West Point’s peer schools make. If you want to be in the army for your own reasons (family tradition, wanting to serve, honor), go right ahead, but don’t do it for the money, because the total compensation is not stellar.

Because they want the West Point experience. And, for people who make a career in the Army there is definitely prestige to being a West Point grad. Obviously, people choosing a military career are not doing it for the money. Just as people who choose many other careers do not make money the top priority. I know, hard for some DCUMs to understand.

Whatever. They stand out as national leaders so are the no 1 producers of Rhodes scholars. May go on to Oxford viA the Marshall, the Fulbright and other prestige scholarships. Read wiki. The are all astounding athletes


Because there is a huge leap from West Point to any of the rotc schools. Wht do you think westpoint is the no one public producer of Rhodes scholars in the US. It’s the best of the best

Most kids at WP scored in the 1300s on the SAT

Snort. 1360. Like your kid could even get the congressional recommend on top of the athletic requirements. Go read “admissions” under United States Military Academy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They regularly breathalyze drivers of cars returning to post on Friday and Saturday nights, and any one under age as well. Sanctions include arrest and permanent expulsion. This is not anything close to a college experience.

Drinking driving was part of your college experience?