SWS has jumped the shark
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Anonymous
dp: You, too, are missing PP's point. She is addressing the logic of "If others find it objectionable, it must be good." |
Anonymous
[sigh] You completely missed the point! Was your post parody? Because if so it was brilliant! They are not arguing that it is the same thing as white supremacy. They used that example to illustrate the absurdity that the voluntary nature of it is most relevant, and not the content and agenda of the group. You made their point for them. I don't want to be mean here, PP, but you seem pretty unintelligent. Th idea of sitting in a room with someone so dense and having to listen to them wax philosophic about matters of great importance without being able to stand up and call BS makes my skin crawl. |
Anonymous
| Skipped most of this thread, but I have to say that this is so 10 years ago. White affinity groups/ally groups have been around for ages. Families had the same knee-jerk reaction to it then, and then 2020 came and guess what: many many white people were responsible for reading "Unlearning Racism" and "Whiteness 101," etc. And guess what: white people have become more informed on what it's like to walk this earth in skin of color. White people thinking they don't need to unpack their biases or learn how to handle tricky situations is not going to get us anywhere. I am white and learn all the time at work about how I could be handling this better, seeing things from different points of view, supporting people more. Just because you haven't heard of this doesn't mean it's not a thing--a thing that helps. |
Anonymous
Two things can be true. It can be true that it’s a good thing to think about your own biases and learn to handle tricky situations. And it can be true that it’s completely inappropriate (and probably illegal) for the principal of a public school to use tax money to segregate parents into groups by skin color and tell one group that they’re going to learn humility and how to stop “perpetuating” their own skin color. |
Anonymous
| ^This!!! |
Anonymous
My impression is that the pendulum has swung back. In 2020 there was no space for questioning what it meant to be an ally. The talk track was that in order to be an ally one had to agree with the loudest black voices in the room. As if they spoke for all black folks. I'd note that for a while "defund the police" was incorporated into the movement. People who called the police on aggressive panhandlers or criminals were "putting POC at risk". Victims of assault were lambasted for not being more sympathetic to their attackers. Things have changed. I'd note the loudest voice on the Council trying to reconsider some of the 2020 era "reforms" is a black man from Ward 7. Let me repeat this: I don't think most of the objections here are to a black affinity group. The objections are to white group designed to tell white folks that being white is "bad" or something to b overcome, and defining the goals and outcomes instead of creating a space for that group to define its own goals. The analog here would be Dave Portnoy creating a man's affinity group and women's affinity group. With the goals of the women's group to be: "How to be a more quiet spouse who provides physical relief and support to their men, while trying to be less perpetually whiny." See what I mean? The problem is not the group, it is the goals and the conclusory and potentially offensive nature of them |
Anonymous
| ^And this! |
Anonymous
| So will the white group also be talking about something concrete like reparations? Maybe that could mean sponsoring an at-risk student at SWS by supporting their family financially so they're no longer actually at-risk? It doesn't make sense to just feel bad oneself but do nothing about it. |
Anonymous
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me and my kiddo have a running joke where we say " THATS RACIST".
its so refreshing that my 12 yo hasnt been brainwashed by this society and schools, my kiddo totally gets it - and we joke about race ALL the time he also knows COVID was a scam, masks do nothing, politics are theater, there are only 2 genders and that racism is perpetuated by the left for power, socialism sux, only women can have babies, and that Jesus is King! |
Anonymous
Well this is bananas, but there are plenty of folks who don’t think all these crazy things who also don’t appreciate the school’s extreme language. |
Anonymous
| Why is the misuse of the word "unpack" so rife in this thread? |
Anonymous
An interesting point. One with which I happen to strongly disagree. I think the idea of reparations is nonsense. If DC decides to spend my tax dollars on reparations that'll be the end my my DC residency. I think the idea of reparations (or not) is something worth a discussion. The problem with the way the "white affinity group" was set up and set out is that there is no room for that. It is set up as a space where only a voice that supports reparations and overcoming whiteness are welcome. |
Anonymous
Let's unpack that, shall we? |
Anonymous
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This is an outrage.
SWS needs a Cisgender Affinity Group, which will allow the cisgendered to expiate their guilt and apologize for misgendering the transgender, gender nonconforming, genderqueer, agender, pangender, bigender, two-spirit, and other non-cisgender identities as well as those who might be questioning their gender identity. |
Anonymous
| Where is the group for people who want to gather to figure out how to cut back some of the anti-racism initiatives we feel have gone overboard? |