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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Skipped most of this thread, but I have to say that this is so 10 years ago. White affinity groups/ally groups have been around for ages. Families had the same knee-jerk reaction to it then, and then 2020 came and guess what: many many white people were responsible for reading "Unlearning Racism" and "Whiteness 101," etc. And guess what: white people have become more informed on what it's like to walk this earth in skin of color. White people thinking they don't need to unpack their biases or learn how to handle tricky situations is not going to get us anywhere. I am white and learn all the time at work about how I could be handling this better, seeing things from different points of view, supporting people more. Just because you haven't heard of this doesn't mean it's not a thing--a thing that helps. [/quote]

My impression is that the pendulum has swung back. In 2020 there was no space for questioning what it meant to be an ally. The talk track was that in order to be an ally one had to agree with the loudest black voices in the room. As if they spoke for all black folks. I'd note that for a while "defund the police" was incorporated into the movement. People who called the police on aggressive panhandlers or criminals were "putting POC at risk". Victims of assault were lambasted for not being more sympathetic to their attackers. Things have changed. I'd note the loudest voice on the Council trying to reconsider some of the 2020 era "reforms" is a black man from Ward 7.

Let me repeat this: I don't think most of the objections here are to a black affinity group. The objections are to white group designed to tell white folks that being white is "bad" or something to b overcome, and defining the goals and outcomes instead of creating a space for that group to define its own goals.

The analog here would be Dave Portnoy creating a man's affinity group and women's affinity group. With the goals of the women's group to be: "How to be a more quiet spouse who provides physical relief and support to their men, while trying to be less perpetually whiny." See what I mean? The problem is not the group, it is the goals and the conclusory and  potentially offensive nature of them[/quote]

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