Florida school deems Michelangelo's David statute pornographic

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Now kids can't learn about school desegregation because it might make them feel badly that white people were in favor of school segregation

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/03/27/removal-ruby-bridges-film-pinellas-school-sparks-outrage/

The Disney movie “Ruby Bridges,” which tells the tale of a 6-year-old who integrated New Orleans schools in the 1960s, has been a staple of Pinellas County Black History Month lessons for years.

It never caused a stir until this year, as parents across Florida exert increased powers to question what children can see and read in schools.

A North Shore Elementary parent who would not allow her child to watch the film in early March later complained that it wasn’t appropriate for second graders. In a formal challenge dated March 6, Emily Conklin wrote that the use of racial slurs and scenes of white people threatening Ruby as she entered a school might result in students learning that white people hate Black people.

Pinellas school officials responded by removing the movie from use by all students at the St. Petersburg school until a review committee can assess it — a step that is drawing strong opposition


The person who got this movie removed works in development for a local YMCA, according to this article, and I can't imagine that they are feeling very happy about being so publicly associated with this type of - let's use this phrase, white fragility.

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Anonymous wrote:Principal was told to resign or get fired for allowing the showing a picture of the statute of David. Apparently the class was classical art taught to middle schoolers. It's Tallahassee which is a blue section of the state.
https://thespacecoastrocket.com/principal-out-after-6th-grade-parent-complains-michelangelos-david-is-porn-in-school/


This is yet another story where it is best to wait a few days before getting outraged. Seems as if there were other instances that played into the principal's firing.
And, the issue wasn't that she showed the Statue of David. It was about parent notification.

"My board chair has not been happy with me," she told CNN, adding that she did not always follow every policy and procedure.
Agreeing with Carrasquilla's assessment, Bishop told CNN that over time it had become evident the school needed to go in a different direction and with different leadership, and he had expressed that to her on many occasions.
"She was not let go because of Michelangelo's David lesson," he said.

"Our school is two and a half years old. Every year we show that picture in the Renaissance Art class taught to our sixth graders," he added. The problem that arose in this instance was that the procedure for notifying parents of the upcoming lesson was not followed, according to Bishop.
"We aren't trying to ban the picture," he said, referring to the statue of David. "We think it's beautiful, but we are going to make sure the concept of parental rights is supreme in Florida and at our charter school," he added.

"It does not mean that parents are telling us what we are going to teach their children. We are going to make sure that parents specifically know what we are going to show their kids, what we are going to talk to their kids about and any keywords that might be a triggering event. This gives parents the opportunity to say, 'Wait a minute. My child isn't old enough to hear that,'" he added.
Bishop and Carrasquilla agree this was the step that was missed regarding the lesson on the 500-year-old sculpture.
Bishop said about 97% of the sixth-grade parents were fine with the lesson, but the school did receive complaints from others.


https://www.cnn.com/style/article/florida-principal-fired-david-statue/index.html


Sorry but the notion that you have to notify parents of 6th graders that their child is going to see a picture of Michelangelo’s David is insane.

There is nothing inherently wrong or dirty about the human body.


Agreed.

But even the most liberal school districts like Montgomery County, MD have a parental notification policy for all sorts of books, videos, etc.

Did you know that? Are you similarly upset about the mcps notification protocol?


Because of the hysterical RWNJ whiners.



You sound like a hysterical conspiracy theorist.

Who invented slavery? Who launched WWI? It was RWNJ whiners of course!!


Who used to be the party of new england and mid atlantic cities? Thanks to Nixon, the modern parties have flipped. Hearing anyone tout Lincoln as a great republican shows that they are either disingenuous or have the most surface level understanding of American history possible
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Principal was told to resign or get fired for allowing the showing a picture of the statute of David. Apparently the class was classical art taught to middle schoolers. It's Tallahassee which is a blue section of the state.
https://thespacecoastrocket.com/principal-out-after-6th-grade-parent-complains-michelangelos-david-is-porn-in-school/


This is yet another story where it is best to wait a few days before getting outraged. Seems as if there were other instances that played into the principal's firing.
And, the issue wasn't that she showed the Statue of David. It was about parent notification.

"My board chair has not been happy with me," she told CNN, adding that she did not always follow every policy and procedure.
Agreeing with Carrasquilla's assessment, Bishop told CNN that over time it had become evident the school needed to go in a different direction and with different leadership, and he had expressed that to her on many occasions.
"She was not let go because of Michelangelo's David lesson," he said.

"Our school is two and a half years old. Every year we show that picture in the Renaissance Art class taught to our sixth graders," he added. The problem that arose in this instance was that the procedure for notifying parents of the upcoming lesson was not followed, according to Bishop.
"We aren't trying to ban the picture," he said, referring to the statue of David. "We think it's beautiful, but we are going to make sure the concept of parental rights is supreme in Florida and at our charter school," he added.

"It does not mean that parents are telling us what we are going to teach their children. We are going to make sure that parents specifically know what we are going to show their kids, what we are going to talk to their kids about and any keywords that might be a triggering event. This gives parents the opportunity to say, 'Wait a minute. My child isn't old enough to hear that,'" he added.
Bishop and Carrasquilla agree this was the step that was missed regarding the lesson on the 500-year-old sculpture.
Bishop said about 97% of the sixth-grade parents were fine with the lesson, but the school did receive complaints from others.


https://www.cnn.com/style/article/florida-principal-fired-david-statue/index.html


Sorry but the notion that you have to notify parents of 6th graders that their child is going to see a picture of Michelangelo’s David is insane.

There is nothing inherently wrong or dirty about the human body.


Agreed.

But even the most liberal school districts like Montgomery County, MD have a parental notification policy for all sorts of books, videos, etc.

Did you know that? Are you similarly upset about the mcps notification protocol?


Because of the hysterical RWNJ whiners.


Doubtful. The policy is likely driven by religious minorities who are not the white maga voters you envision.

Half the R party believes in Christian nationalism . They aren't religious minorities you speak of.
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Anonymous wrote:Principal was told to resign or get fired for allowing the showing a picture of the statute of David. Apparently the class was classical art taught to middle schoolers. It's Tallahassee which is a blue section of the state.
https://thespacecoastrocket.com/principal-out-after-6th-grade-parent-complains-michelangelos-david-is-porn-in-school/


This is yet another story where it is best to wait a few days before getting outraged. Seems as if there were other instances that played into the principal's firing.
And, the issue wasn't that she showed the Statue of David. It was about parent notification.

"My board chair has not been happy with me," she told CNN, adding that she did not always follow every policy and procedure.
Agreeing with Carrasquilla's assessment, Bishop told CNN that over time it had become evident the school needed to go in a different direction and with different leadership, and he had expressed that to her on many occasions.
"She was not let go because of Michelangelo's David lesson," he said.

"Our school is two and a half years old. Every year we show that picture in the Renaissance Art class taught to our sixth graders," he added. The problem that arose in this instance was that the procedure for notifying parents of the upcoming lesson was not followed, according to Bishop.
"We aren't trying to ban the picture," he said, referring to the statue of David. "We think it's beautiful, but we are going to make sure the concept of parental rights is supreme in Florida and at our charter school," he added.

"It does not mean that parents are telling us what we are going to teach their children. We are going to make sure that parents specifically know what we are going to show their kids, what we are going to talk to their kids about and any keywords that might be a triggering event. This gives parents the opportunity to say, 'Wait a minute. My child isn't old enough to hear that,'" he added.
Bishop and Carrasquilla agree this was the step that was missed regarding the lesson on the 500-year-old sculpture.
Bishop said about 97% of the sixth-grade parents were fine with the lesson, but the school did receive complaints from others.


https://www.cnn.com/style/article/florida-principal-fired-david-statue/index.html


Sorry but the notion that you have to notify parents of 6th graders that their child is going to see a picture of Michelangelo’s David is insane.

There is nothing inherently wrong or dirty about the human body.


Agreed.

But even the most liberal school districts like Montgomery County, MD have a parental notification policy for all sorts of books, videos, etc.

Did you know that? Are you similarly upset about the mcps notification protocol?


Because of the hysterical RWNJ whiners.


Doubtful. The policy is likely driven by religious minorities who are not the white maga voters you envision.

Half the R party believes in Christian nationalism . They aren't religious minorities you speak of.


The thing is that I think the Rs who say things like that really believe that they can lie and twist and somehow we'll have to believe them and roll over to their Handmaids Tale version of life. I don't think they realize that we can see their lies, and we DON'T have to roll over for it just because they think they've given us a clever line.
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Anonymous wrote:Now kids can't learn about school desegregation because it might make them feel badly that white people were in favor of school segregation

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/03/27/removal-ruby-bridges-film-pinellas-school-sparks-outrage/

The Disney movie “Ruby Bridges,” which tells the tale of a 6-year-old who integrated New Orleans schools in the 1960s, has been a staple of Pinellas County Black History Month lessons for years.

It never caused a stir until this year, as parents across Florida exert increased powers to question what children can see and read in schools.

A North Shore Elementary parent who would not allow her child to watch the film in early March later complained that it wasn’t appropriate for second graders. In a formal challenge dated March 6, Emily Conklin wrote that the use of racial slurs and scenes of white people threatening Ruby as she entered a school might result in students learning that white people hate Black people.

Pinellas school officials responded by removing the movie from use by all students at the St. Petersburg school until a review committee can assess it — a step that is drawing strong opposition


The person who got this movie removed works in development for a local YMCA, according to this article, and I can't imagine that they are feeling very happy about being so publicly associated with this type of - let's use this phrase, white fragility.



I mean, for a party that likes to huff on about people being too sensitive, they sure are concerned about making sure white people don't feel bad about the past.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Principal was told to resign or get fired for allowing the showing a picture of the statute of David. Apparently the class was classical art taught to middle schoolers. It's Tallahassee which is a blue section of the state.
https://thespacecoastrocket.com/principal-out-after-6th-grade-parent-complains-michelangelos-david-is-porn-in-school/


This is yet another story where it is best to wait a few days before getting outraged. Seems as if there were other instances that played into the principal's firing.
And, the issue wasn't that she showed the Statue of David. It was about parent notification.

"My board chair has not been happy with me," she told CNN, adding that she did not always follow every policy and procedure.
Agreeing with Carrasquilla's assessment, Bishop told CNN that over time it had become evident the school needed to go in a different direction and with different leadership, and he had expressed that to her on many occasions.
"She was not let go because of Michelangelo's David lesson," he said.

"Our school is two and a half years old. Every year we show that picture in the Renaissance Art class taught to our sixth graders," he added. The problem that arose in this instance was that the procedure for notifying parents of the upcoming lesson was not followed, according to Bishop.
"We aren't trying to ban the picture," he said, referring to the statue of David. "We think it's beautiful, but we are going to make sure the concept of parental rights is supreme in Florida and at our charter school," he added.

"It does not mean that parents are telling us what we are going to teach their children. We are going to make sure that parents specifically know what we are going to show their kids, what we are going to talk to their kids about and any keywords that might be a triggering event. This gives parents the opportunity to say, 'Wait a minute. My child isn't old enough to hear that,'" he added.
Bishop and Carrasquilla agree this was the step that was missed regarding the lesson on the 500-year-old sculpture.
Bishop said about 97% of the sixth-grade parents were fine with the lesson, but the school did receive complaints from others.


https://www.cnn.com/style/article/florida-principal-fired-david-statue/index.html


Sorry but the notion that you have to notify parents of 6th graders that their child is going to see a picture of Michelangelo’s David is insane.

There is nothing inherently wrong or dirty about the human body.


Agreed.

But even the most liberal school districts like Montgomery County, MD have a parental notification policy for all sorts of books, videos, etc.

Did you know that? Are you similarly upset about the mcps notification protocol?


Because of the hysterical RWNJ whiners.



You sound like a hysterical conspiracy theorist.

Who invented slavery? Who launched WWI? It was RWNJ whiners of course!!


Who used to be the party of new england and mid atlantic cities? Thanks to Nixon, the modern parties have flipped. Hearing anyone tout Lincoln as a great republican shows that they are either disingenuous or have the most surface level understanding of American history possible

This is what decades of propaganda have gifted America with. Brainwashed numpties.
Anonymous
The Statue of David was originally intended to be placed in a private alcove. However, when it was finished and unveiled, they decided it was such a fantastic work of art that it should instead be in a public square for all to see.

In short, Florida in 2023 is even more ignorant and backward than people were in 1504.
Anonymous
Republicans are more outraged over an internationally recognized masterpiece of art than they are about children getting massacred in their schools.

It's completely sick and demented.
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Anonymous wrote:You think Republicans could not look more stupid. Then they do!


Appears that it was a liberal who started this thread and raised the outrage level for no reason.


They were merely believing what the media told them. I admit I fell for it myself, despite knowing how often the media gets stuff wrong, especially if it fits a certain narrative.
It seemed plausible to me that something like this could happen.

CNN's article had a quote from the school board that the principal was not fired because of David statue, yet they kept the headline. The principal told CNN that there were a lot of issues as well.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You think Republicans could not look more stupid. Then they do!


Appears that it was a liberal who started this thread and raised the outrage level for no reason.


They were merely believing what the media told them. I admit I fell for it myself, despite knowing how often the media gets stuff wrong, especially if it fits a certain narrative.
It seemed plausible to me that something like this could happen.

CNN's article had a quote from the school board that the principal was not fired because of David statue, yet they kept the headline. The principal told CNN that there were a lot of issues as well.


What fake news?

Fact: Unhinged right wing parents complained about their kids seeing the Statue of David.

Fact: The principal was forced to resign.

you: *mumble mumble* there were other issues *mumble handwave mumble*

spin spin spin
Anonymous
I hadn’t heard about the desegregation movie. But it took me until I got to *graduate school* to really learn about desegregation and civil rights issues in this country. There is really no hope to learn from our past if we cannot learn about it!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Principal was told to resign or get fired for allowing the showing a picture of the statute of David. Apparently the class was classical art taught to middle schoolers. It's Tallahassee which is a blue section of the state.
https://thespacecoastrocket.com/principal-out-after-6th-grade-parent-complains-michelangelos-david-is-porn-in-school/


This is yet another story where it is best to wait a few days before getting outraged. Seems as if there were other instances that played into the principal's firing.
And, the issue wasn't that she showed the Statue of David. It was about parent notification.

"My board chair has not been happy with me," she told CNN, adding that she did not always follow every policy and procedure.
Agreeing with Carrasquilla's assessment, Bishop told CNN that over time it had become evident the school needed to go in a different direction and with different leadership, and he had expressed that to her on many occasions.
"She was not let go because of Michelangelo's David lesson," he said.

"Our school is two and a half years old. Every year we show that picture in the Renaissance Art class taught to our sixth graders," he added. The problem that arose in this instance was that the procedure for notifying parents of the upcoming lesson was not followed, according to Bishop.
"We aren't trying to ban the picture," he said, referring to the statue of David. "We think it's beautiful, but we are going to make sure the concept of parental rights is supreme in Florida and at our charter school," he added.

"It does not mean that parents are telling us what we are going to teach their children. We are going to make sure that parents specifically know what we are going to show their kids, what we are going to talk to their kids about and any keywords that might be a triggering event. This gives parents the opportunity to say, 'Wait a minute. My child isn't old enough to hear that,'" he added.
Bishop and Carrasquilla agree this was the step that was missed regarding the lesson on the 500-year-old sculpture.
Bishop said about 97% of the sixth-grade parents were fine with the lesson, but the school did receive complaints from others.


https://www.cnn.com/style/article/florida-principal-fired-david-statue/index.html


Sorry but the notion that you have to notify parents of 6th graders that their child is going to see a picture of Michelangelo’s David is insane.

There is nothing inherently wrong or dirty about the human body.


Agreed.

But even the most liberal school districts like Montgomery County, MD have a parental notification policy for all sorts of books, videos, etc.

Did you know that? Are you similarly upset about the mcps notification protocol?


Because of the hysterical RWNJ whiners.


Doubtful. The policy is likely driven by religious minorities who are not the white maga voters you envision.

Half the R party believes in Christian nationalism . They aren't religious minorities you speak of.


Do you live in Montgomery county? Are your kids in MCPS?

ICYMI: MoCo is extremely liberal. Full stop. Think: Sanctuary City with a big and growing immigrant population.

FTR: I’m a native and I happily chose to live here because of the county’s liberal politics and diverse community.

Our growing immigrant population holds religious beliefs that skew conservative. They do not celebrate Halloween, and schools shifted gears out of respect for their beliefs.

Similarly, these religious people are not warm and fuzzy when it comes to sex and lgbtq issues. As a result, the county schools do a lot of messaging and provide notice about such content.

ICYMI: there’s a protest tomorrow in Montgomery county about taking back the schools or something that sounds very Florida-esque. I saw it on Nextdoor and really don’t have any details. I’m certainly not protesting, but I’m curious who will show up. I don’t think it will be a bunch of white people, but I could be wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hadn’t heard about the desegregation movie. But it took me until I got to *graduate school* to really learn about desegregation and civil rights issues in this country. There is really no hope to learn from our past if we cannot learn about it!


Where did you grow up and go to school K thru 12?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hadn’t heard about the desegregation movie. But it took me until I got to *graduate school* to really learn about desegregation and civil rights issues in this country. There is really no hope to learn from our past if we cannot learn about it!

Which is why the GOP is slowly chiseling Civil Rights out of schools. Rosa Parks? Just decided to siddown on a bus one time. Why did they arrest her? Probably drunk and disorderly. Certainly nothing to do with segregation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hadn’t heard about the desegregation movie. But it took me until I got to *graduate school* to really learn about desegregation and civil rights issues in this country. There is really no hope to learn from our past if we cannot learn about it!


Where did you grow up and go to school K thru 12?


DP I grew up in the midwest in the 70s and 80s and did not learn much about that era in school.
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