Restorative Justice is struggling to show success in MCPS according to students, parents

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Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

Why do Democrats keep voting for this crap?

Can you ping me to a Republican run area with great schools.

How about you start with some effective consequences for the school violence?

Thank goodness the thug that beat the teacher in FL in going to lock-up for a long time.

I’m just looking for a Republican run area with great schools. Can’t you just list a few?

https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-do-states-really-stack-2015-naep

When you normalize for student demographics, Texas is the second best performing state in the US. Indiana is 3rd and Florida is 6th. Mass is easily the best when it comes to public education.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/05/what-are-massachusetts-public-schools-doing-right/483935/

“ The Massachusetts experiment with transforming public education traces back to 1993, when state leaders decided to set high standards, establish a stringent accountability system aimed at ensuring that students from all backgrounds were making progress, and open its doors to charter schools.”

So basically the opposite of what MCPS does.

But Dallas, Austin, Houston are all democratic. I don’t plan to live in the county.

Massachusetts is democratic.

Florida schools are terrible .

I’ll have to research Indiana. Indianapolis and Gary are democratic. Looks like Carmel might be red but they have some anti CRT stuff so I’m not a trumper just a conservative.

As a rule of thumb, if an area is blue, it's schools are good. If it's red, you get terrible schools. Yes, there are a few exceptions but in general the red areas aren't well educated.

Actually, if an area is full of well educated liberals whose children behave and test well, the schools are considered “good”. Can’t get much more blue than Baltimore and DC the schools certainly aren’t good.

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Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

This is depressing. MCPS, wake up! This is not ok!

What can parents do in this situation. We are not there yet (only in K) but I want to be prepared if /when it happens.

There's a lot of pearl-clutching and "sky is falling" in this thread. Sure, MCPS isn't perfect but this also doesn't paint an accurate picture. Many of these posters are just distorting reality to be dramatic or have some political agenda. My kids were at schools with around 30% FARMS and never had any of these issues. In fact, the smaller class sizes made things even better.

MS/HS is where the real issues begin.

-parent of two HSers.

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Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

Why do Democrats keep voting for this crap?

Can you ping me to a Republican run area with great schools.

How about you start with some effective consequences for the school violence?

Thank goodness the thug that beat the teacher in FL in going to lock-up for a long time.

I’m just looking for a Republican run area with great schools. Can’t you just list a few?

https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-do-states-really-stack-2015-naep

When you normalize for student demographics, Texas is the second best performing state in the US. Indiana is 3rd and Florida is 6th. Mass is easily the best when it comes to public education.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/05/what-are-massachusetts-public-schools-doing-right/483935/

“ The Massachusetts experiment with transforming public education traces back to 1993, when state leaders decided to set high standards, establish a stringent accountability system aimed at ensuring that students from all backgrounds were making progress, and open its doors to charter schools.”

So basically the opposite of what MCPS does.

But Dallas, Austin, Houston are all democratic. I don’t plan to live in the county.

Massachusetts is democratic.

Florida schools are terrible .

I’ll have to research Indiana. Indianapolis and Gary are democratic. Looks like Carmel might be red but they have some anti CRT stuff so I’m not a trumper just a conservative.

As a rule of thumb, if an area is blue, it's schools are good. If it's red, you get terrible schools. Yes, there are a few exceptions but in general the red areas aren't well educated.

Actually, if an area is full of well educated liberals whose children behave and test well, the schools are considered “good”. Can’t get much more blue than Baltimore and DC the schools certainly aren’t good.

You contradicted yourself there.

Both DC and Baltimore have a large population of uneducated adults.

Baltimore county suburbs are fine; same for Howard County and the educated parts of MoCo. It's the uneducated parts of the counties that have issues. So, it doesn't matter if DC and Baltimore vote blue.

Typically, the more educated you are, the more you tend to vote Dem. That is why even NoVa tends to vote blue.

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Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

Why do Democrats keep voting for this crap?

Can you ping me to a Republican run area with great schools.

How about you start with some effective consequences for the school violence?

Thank goodness the thug that beat the teacher in FL in going to lock-up for a long time.

I’m just looking for a Republican run area with great schools. Can’t you just list a few?

https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-do-states-really-stack-2015-naep

When you normalize for student demographics, Texas is the second best performing state in the US. Indiana is 3rd and Florida is 6th. Mass is easily the best when it comes to public education.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/05/what-are-massachusetts-public-schools-doing-right/483935/

“ The Massachusetts experiment with transforming public education traces back to 1993, when state leaders decided to set high standards, establish a stringent accountability system aimed at ensuring that students from all backgrounds were making progress, and open its doors to charter schools.”

So basically the opposite of what MCPS does.

I think if you dig deeper you'll find that even within the red states, the areas that tend to perform well tend to be blue.

Take TX for example: the school districts that are ranked highest are in Austin, Dallas, Houston.. all blue areas at have a high SES.

It's not a matter of red vs blue. It's a matter of SES. That's why no WV school districts are rated very well even though the vast majority of WV votes red. The only blue area in WV is the area around WVU, a much more educated area.

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Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

Why do Democrats keep voting for this crap?

Can you ping me to a Republican run area with great schools.

How about you start with some effective consequences for the school violence?

Thank goodness the thug that beat the teacher in FL in going to lock-up for a long time.

I’m just looking for a Republican run area with great schools. Can’t you just list a few?

https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-do-states-really-stack-2015-naep

When you normalize for student demographics, Texas is the second best performing state in the US. Indiana is 3rd and Florida is 6th. Mass is easily the best when it comes to public education.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/05/what-are-massachusetts-public-schools-doing-right/483935/

“ The Massachusetts experiment with transforming public education traces back to 1993, when state leaders decided to set high standards, establish a stringent accountability system aimed at ensuring that students from all backgrounds were making progress, and open its doors to charter schools.”

So basically the opposite of what MCPS does.

But Dallas, Austin, Houston are all democratic. I don’t plan to live in the county.

Massachusetts is democratic.

Florida schools are terrible .

I’ll have to research Indiana. Indianapolis and Gary are democratic. Looks like Carmel might be red but they have some anti CRT stuff so I’m not a trumper just a conservative.

As a rule of thumb, if an area is blue, it's schools are good. If it's red, you get terrible schools. Yes, there are a few exceptions but in general the red areas aren't well educated.

Actually, if an area is full of well educated liberals whose children behave and test well, the schools are considered “good”. Can’t get much more blue than Baltimore and DC the schools certainly aren’t good.

The data is fairly conclusive. When looking at the best and worst schools by state. 12/15 of top schools are in blue states while 9/10 of the worst schools are in red states.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

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Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

Why do Democrats keep voting for this crap?

Wow I could have written a very similar post about my own MCPS elementary school. Me and my students have all been hit, kicked, cussed out, etc. by a couple of kids in my class. None have ever been sent home or suspended. It's always a visit to the office and then right back to class. It amazes me that I don't get parent emails nightly asking me WTF is happening in my room. I sometimes wonder if my students are so used to this toxic behavior it doesn't phase them after the initial incidents occur.

You're a teacher who writes, "me and my students "?!?!?!?@i call bs.

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Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

This is depressing. MCPS, wake up! This is not ok!

What can parents do in this situation. We are not there yet (only in K) but I want to be prepared if /when it happens.

There's a lot of pearl-clutching and "sky is falling" in this thread. Sure, MCPS isn't perfect but this also doesn't paint an accurate picture. Many of these posters are just distorting reality to be dramatic or have some political agenda. My kids were at schools with around 30% FARMS and never had any of these issues. In fact, the smaller class sizes made things even better.

Yep

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In theory, if you have a conflict where the blame is 50/50 it can hypothetically be effective. When there is a clear victim and a clear instigator, RJ is an absolute disaster and takes all accountability away from the person that caused the problem and inflicts pain on the victim once again.

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Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

This is depressing. MCPS, wake up! This is not ok!

What can parents do in this situation. We are not there yet (only in K) but I want to be prepared if /when it happens.

There's a lot of pearl-clutching and "sky is falling" in this thread. Sure, MCPS isn't perfect but this also doesn't paint an accurate picture. Many of these posters are just distorting reality to be dramatic or have some political agenda. My kids were at schools with around 30% FARMS and never had any of these issues. In fact, the smaller class sizes made things even better.

MS/HS is where the real issues begin.

-parent of two HSers.

Ummmm...my children's elementary school in Germantown definitely has behaviors like these in the classroom. We're hoping to move once the interest rates go down.

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Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

This is depressing. MCPS, wake up! This is not ok!

What can parents do in this situation. We are not there yet (only in K) but I want to be prepared if /when it happens.

There's a lot of pearl-clutching and "sky is falling" in this thread. Sure, MCPS isn't perfect but this also doesn't paint an accurate picture. Many of these posters are just distorting reality to be dramatic or have some political agenda. My kids were at schools with around 30% FARMS and never had any of these issues. In fact, the smaller class sizes made things even better.

MS/HS is where the real issues begin.

-parent of two HSers.

Ummmm...my children's elementary school in Germantown definitely has behaviors like these in the classroom. We're hoping to move once the interest rates go down.

Elementary used to be a safe environment. Things have changed. It’s hard to get sent home in high school, but almost impossible in elementary. This is a change from pre- COVID. Parents used to be expected to pick-up children having tantrums and meltdowns and fights. However, this was in the past. Now, kids are expected to stay in class regardless of what happens. And in elementary there are no security guards.

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Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

This is depressing. MCPS, wake up! This is not ok!

What can parents do in this situation. We are not there yet (only in K) but I want to be prepared if /when it happens.

There's a lot of pearl-clutching and "sky is falling" in this thread. Sure, MCPS isn't perfect but this also doesn't paint an accurate picture. Many of these posters are just distorting reality to be dramatic or have some political agenda. My kids were at schools with around 30% FARMS and never had any of these issues. In fact, the smaller class sizes made things even better.

MS/HS is where the real issues begin.

-parent of two HSers.

Ummmm...my children's elementary school in Germantown definitely has behaviors like these in the classroom. We're hoping to move once the interest rates go down.

I teach in Germantown and everything said in this thread is accurate. I hate what has happened to MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2023/02/28/mcps-students-data-suggest-failing-grade-for-restorative-justice-practices/

Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

Why do Democrats keep voting for this crap?

Can you ping me to a Republican run area with great schools.

How about you start with some effective consequences for the school violence?

Thank goodness the thug that beat the teacher in FL in going to lock-up for a long time.

I’m just looking for a Republican run area with great schools. Can’t you just list a few?

https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-do-states-really-stack-2015-naep

When you normalize for student demographics, Texas is the second best performing state in the US. Indiana is 3rd and Florida is 6th. Mass is easily the best when it comes to public education.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/05/what-are-massachusetts-public-schools-doing-right/483935/

“ The Massachusetts experiment with transforming public education traces back to 1993, when state leaders decided to set high standards, establish a stringent accountability system aimed at ensuring that students from all backgrounds were making progress, and open its doors to charter schools.”

So basically the opposite of what MCPS does.

But Dallas, Austin, Houston are all democratic. I don’t plan to live in the county.

Massachusetts is democratic.

Florida schools are terrible .

I’ll have to research Indiana. Indianapolis and Gary are democratic. Looks like Carmel might be red but they have some anti CRT stuff so I’m not a trumper just a conservative.

As a rule of thumb, if an area is blue, it's schools are good. If it's red, you get terrible schools. Yes, there are a few exceptions but in general the red areas aren't well educated.

Actually, if an area is full of well educated liberals whose children behave and test well, the schools are considered “good”. Can’t get much more blue than Baltimore and DC the schools certainly aren’t good.

The data is fairly conclusive. When looking at the best and worst schools by state. 12/15 of top schools are in blue states while 9/10 of the worst schools are in red states.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

As another poster said, it’s less about red vs blue and more about economics. Many conservatives live in rural areas and rural areas tend to be poor. Poor families tend to be low achievers. Same thing with inner city families in DC, Baltimore, and Detroit. They do poorly in school because they are poor. Not because they are Democrats.

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Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2023/02/28/mcps-students-data-suggest-failing-grade-for-restorative-justice-practices/

Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

Why do Democrats keep voting for this crap?

Can you ping me to a Republican run area with great schools.

How about you start with some effective consequences for the school violence?

Thank goodness the thug that beat the teacher in FL in going to lock-up for a long time.

I’m just looking for a Republican run area with great schools. Can’t you just list a few?

https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-do-states-really-stack-2015-naep

When you normalize for student demographics, Texas is the second best performing state in the US. Indiana is 3rd and Florida is 6th. Mass is easily the best when it comes to public education.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/05/what-are-massachusetts-public-schools-doing-right/483935/

“ The Massachusetts experiment with transforming public education traces back to 1993, when state leaders decided to set high standards, establish a stringent accountability system aimed at ensuring that students from all backgrounds were making progress, and open its doors to charter schools.”

So basically the opposite of what MCPS does.

But Dallas, Austin, Houston are all democratic. I don’t plan to live in the county.

Massachusetts is democratic.

Florida schools are terrible .

I’ll have to research Indiana. Indianapolis and Gary are democratic. Looks like Carmel might be red but they have some anti CRT stuff so I’m not a trumper just a conservative.

As a rule of thumb, if an area is blue, it's schools are good. If it's red, you get terrible schools. Yes, there are a few exceptions but in general the red areas aren't well educated.

Actually, if an area is full of well educated liberals whose children behave and test well, the schools are considered “good”. Can’t get much more blue than Baltimore and DC the schools certainly aren’t good.

The data is fairly conclusive. When looking at the best and worst schools by state. 12/15 of top schools are in blue states while 9/10 of the worst schools are in red states.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

As another poster said, it’s less about red vs blue and more about economics. Many conservatives live in rural areas and rural areas tend to be poor. Poor families tend to be low achievers. Same thing with inner city families in DC, Baltimore, and Detroit. They do poorly in school because they are poor. Not because they are Democrats.

Wow, a bit racist. They don't have the same opportunities as you had.. both the parents and kids. Check your privilege. Our ES, pre-covid, wouldn't allow parent involvement and the supports they provided to the kids who needed them were minimal at best. Many of us supplemented heavily with private services and worked with our kids at home. However, those private services took everything we had to pay for them and no everyone is willing or able to do that.

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Anonymous wrote:In theory, if you have a conflict where the blame is 50/50 it can hypothetically be effective. When there is a clear victim and a clear instigator, RJ is an absolute disaster and takes all accountability away from the person that caused the problem and inflicts pain on the victim once again.

That's not true.

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Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2023/02/28/mcps-students-data-suggest-failing-grade-for-restorative-justice-practices/

Montgomery County Public Schools is in the middle of formally assessing the success of its social justice-inspired approach to conflict resolution in cases of school bullying, violence and hate bias using state-provided metrics.

Data indicates that MCPS efforts to adopt a restorative justice model may not have been effective, while students and parents question the success of its approach to conflict resolution.

The school district describes restorative justice as “an approach to building community, self-care, and conflict resolution.” The approach was first adopted in 2019 after the state passed regulations requiring schools to employ more trauma-informed practices. Within this model, principals can request a member of the central office restorative justice team to be deployed to schools as incidents arise

Restorative justice isn't struggling at all. Parents who lack access to any data are skeptical of these new methods.

Please come to my 4th grade classroom any day, stay for a day or a week, and try repeating that. Make sure you also speak to the students who don’t feel safe. A child brought a knife to school last week and said he was sorry and it was an “accident” that the knife slipped into his bag. Well that’s what he told admin to appease them even after bragging to the students that he had it. He had to stay in the office for 1/2 a day but don’t worry he still got lunch and recess with his scared classmates. The scared class had a circle and was told to understand that it was an accident. The same child beats up other children multiple times a week. The class is told to accept that he is trying to communicate his frustration. To be clear, the frustration he has is that he is being asked to do work. In our grade, there are 3 others that are also scary- 1 in each class. But they go into the halls and create massive havoc.

Teachers are not okay with being told that everything is fixed and fine because we’ve had a circle.

Why do Democrats keep voting for this crap?

Can you ping me to a Republican run area with great schools.

How about you start with some effective consequences for the school violence?

Thank goodness the thug that beat the teacher in FL in going to lock-up for a long time.

I’m just looking for a Republican run area with great schools. Can’t you just list a few?

https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-do-states-really-stack-2015-naep

When you normalize for student demographics, Texas is the second best performing state in the US. Indiana is 3rd and Florida is 6th. Mass is easily the best when it comes to public education.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/05/what-are-massachusetts-public-schools-doing-right/483935/

“ The Massachusetts experiment with transforming public education traces back to 1993, when state leaders decided to set high standards, establish a stringent accountability system aimed at ensuring that students from all backgrounds were making progress, and open its doors to charter schools.”

So basically the opposite of what MCPS does.

But Dallas, Austin, Houston are all democratic. I don’t plan to live in the county.

Massachusetts is democratic.

Florida schools are terrible .

I’ll have to research Indiana. Indianapolis and Gary are democratic. Looks like Carmel might be red but they have some anti CRT stuff so I’m not a trumper just a conservative.

As a rule of thumb, if an area is blue, it's schools are good. If it's red, you get terrible schools. Yes, there are a few exceptions but in general the red areas aren't well educated.

Actually, if an area is full of well educated liberals whose children behave and test well, the schools are considered “good”. Can’t get much more blue than Baltimore and DC the schools certainly aren’t good.

The data is fairly conclusive. When looking at the best and worst schools by state. 12/15 of top schools are in blue states while 9/10 of the worst schools are in red states.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

Truth!