Why are Rich Men always sought after?

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Anonymous wrote:A legally binding prenup requires the wife to be represented by counsel, who will tell her not to sign anything stupid like giving up all alimony.

I’m a big fan of pre-nups (think almost everyone should have them) but you don’t seem to understand the basics of a pre-nup.

I have one and am very familiar. I know all about both parties needing to disclose assets and have counsel for it to be legally enforceable.

So then you know competent counsel doesn’t let their clients waive alimony unless there are offsets. There’s no prenup of “completely impoverish her as soon as you’re done screwing her” that a court won’t throw out.

Attorney’s will advise. In Maryland an alimony waiver will be enforced unless the spouse is likely to be a public charge. Please look up the case law on Google Scholar.

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Anonymous wrote:As my friends and I discovered in our 20s, there is no correlation between a man’s net worth and the ability/desire for that man to treat a woman well; that is, a poor one is no less likely not to be an jerk than a rich one. If poor guys were so much better than rich ones, I think a lot more women would go that route, but since that’s the not the case, and you’re likely going to be dealing with the same stuff either way, you may as well be with a rich one (or at least not a poor one).

This is true in the same way that beautiful women are just as likely to be intelligent, funny, kind, and successful as less attractive women.

Yes? Why would this be surprising? Who do you think most Ivy League graduates marry? It’s…other Ivy League graduates. Plenty of beautiful women bring their own money and brains to the table.

Yeah but those women are not marrying some poor guy. Even rich women want to marry rich man.

I mean have you just heard now of assortive mating? Yes, wealthy people of both genders marry other wealthy people even if the man is more wealthy than the woman, they don’t marry penniless baristas who dropped out of high school.

Yeah, and this is so misguided.

Most rich men would be FAR better off with a hot, grateful, low maintenance ex-barista that is 15+ years younger. We don’t need an intellectual challenge in a wife. We don’t need someone with her own massive ambitions. I have friends and colleagues and business associates for that. We need someone to care for children, tend the home, work out, and provide sexual gratification. That’s it.

Every time I see this, I wonder if these posters imagine all children are under six years old.
Do you really want a barista telling your son whether or not he should take AP classes or helping him with his college applications?

Or do you imagine that after years of your absence at home, you are suddenly going to become the person your children come to for advice?

Marry the hot barista if that’s who you want to be with, but that marriage comes with it’s own challenges.

Do you know any baristas? This is offensive as hell. Many are quite smart, extremely personable, have interesting hobbies, and would make great partners.

Yes. If by barista you mean someone who didn’t finish college because she just didn’t find it interesting or important and had no interest in a career, then yes. I know several baristas who married men who could provide an UMC life as the sole provider.

My college roommate’s mom was one. My aunt is one. I know a couple in my kids’ gymnastics classes. I know a couple socially through work.

They are super fun and have hobbies. My roommate’s mom was hilarious, and many people were sad when she died. My aunt is an avid gardener and interior decorator. And they are great partners and great moms to little kids. But they have no idea how hard it can be to get a job that supports your family. Every single one has told their kids that grades don’t matter, refused to pay for college, and given terrible advice to their kids as older teens and young adults.

My cousins and my friend and her siblings are doing okay, but none are educated beyond college or living an UMC lifestyle.

There is a lot of truth to this. As an accomplished woman, I was able to offer my DD so much more valuable advice about grad school and professional success than my wealthy SAHM friends. They just assumed that the private school counsellor or consultant would handle that. I am always shocked that these moms don't wonder what they are teaching their kids. It is just such a continuation of the days when women NEEDED men to eat and have a roof over their heads. This site is full of posts from miserable women who feel they can't leave their husbands, because they are too dependent on the lifestyle he provides them. Plus, how will their sons see females as equals when in their family the mother was entirely dependent (note EVEN AFTER her kids were full grown) on a male. They groom themselves and make reservations. Choose curtain fabric. It is just SUCH a throwback. I really worry about how such families are perpetuating an outdated model of society.

I’m not convinced. I don’t see how living off of your own husband is that much better or worse than living off a paycheck from a corporation. Both have risks and different challenges. There are very few people who would continue their job if they earned $0. Working isn’t that great and I’m a working mom.

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I don’t know why men get blamed for woman not working. I know plenty of woman that don’t work and have no desire to work. My guess is that if they don’t need to most people would prefer not to work.
Outside of a very small group of people, once your dead no one is going to care that you were VP, CEO, Senior Partner at ABC & D.

I was at lunch the other day and the woman sitting next to me was telling her friend that now her last kid was going off to college her husband wanted her to get a job. Her response was, “I have an outdated degree and I am not starting a career at nearly 48 if I don’t need to and I am not going to get an hourly position at pottery barn.” I can’t say I really disagree with her.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why men get blamed for woman not working. I know plenty of woman that don’t work and have no desire to work. My guess is that if they don’t need to most people would prefer not to work.
Outside of a very small group of people, once your dead no one is going to care that you were VP, CEO, Senior Partner at ABC & D.

I was at lunch the other day and the woman sitting next to me was telling her friend that now her last kid was going off to college her husband wanted her to get a job. Her response was, “I have an outdated degree and I am not starting a career at nearly 48 if I don’t need to and I am not going to get an hourly position at pottery barn.” I can’t say I really disagree with her.

She could be a nanny!

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Competition for mates is very basis and exists through the animal kingdom. Wealthy men and young beautiful women are sought after. Just like healthy male Elks get the most mates.

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Anonymous wrote:As my friends and I discovered in our 20s, there is no correlation between a man’s net worth and the ability/desire for that man to treat a woman well; that is, a poor one is no less likely not to be an jerk than a rich one. If poor guys were so much better than rich ones, I think a lot more women would go that route, but since that’s the not the case, and you’re likely going to be dealing with the same stuff either way, you may as well be with a rich one (or at least not a poor one).

This is true in the same way that beautiful women are just as likely to be intelligent, funny, kind, and successful as less attractive women.

Yes? Why would this be surprising? Who do you think most Ivy League graduates marry? It’s…other Ivy League graduates. Plenty of beautiful women bring their own money and brains to the table.

Yeah but those women are not marrying some poor guy. Even rich women want to marry rich man.

I mean have you just heard now of assortive mating? Yes, wealthy people of both genders marry other wealthy people even if the man is more wealthy than the woman, they don’t marry penniless baristas who dropped out of high school.

Yeah, and this is so misguided.

Most rich men would be FAR better off with a hot, grateful, low maintenance ex-barista that is 15+ years younger. We don’t need an intellectual challenge in a wife. We don’t need someone with her own massive ambitions. I have friends and colleagues and business associates for that. We need someone to care for children, tend the home, work out, and provide sexual gratification. That’s it.

Every time I see this, I wonder if these posters imagine all children are under six years old.
Do you really want a barista telling your son whether or not he should take AP classes or helping him with his college applications?

Or do you imagine that after years of your absence at home, you are suddenly going to become the person your children come to for advice?

Marry the hot barista if that’s who you want to be with, but that marriage comes with it’s own challenges.

Do you know any baristas? This is offensive as hell. Many are quite smart, extremely personable, have interesting hobbies, and would make great partners.

Yes. If by barista you mean someone who didn’t finish college because she just didn’t find it interesting or important and had no interest in a career, then yes. I know several baristas who married men who could provide an UMC life as the sole provider.

My college roommate’s mom was one. My aunt is one. I know a couple in my kids’ gymnastics classes. I know a couple socially through work.

They are super fun and have hobbies. My roommate’s mom was hilarious, and many people were sad when she died. My aunt is an avid gardener and interior decorator. And they are great partners and great moms to little kids. But they have no idea how hard it can be to get a job that supports your family. Every single one has told their kids that grades don’t matter, refused to pay for college, and given terrible advice to their kids as older teens and young adults.

My cousins and my friend and her siblings are doing okay, but none are educated beyond college or living an UMC lifestyle.

There is a lot of truth to this. As an accomplished woman, I was able to offer my DD so much more valuable advice about grad school and professional success than my wealthy SAHM friends. They just assumed that the private school counsellor or consultant would handle that. I am always shocked that these moms don't wonder what they are teaching their kids. It is just such a continuation of the days when women NEEDED men to eat and have a roof over their heads. This site is full of posts from miserable women who feel they can't leave their husbands, because they are too dependent on the lifestyle he provides them. Plus, how will their sons see females as equals when in their family the mother was entirely dependent (note EVEN AFTER her kids were full grown) on a male. They groom themselves and make reservations. Choose curtain fabric. It is just SUCH a throwback. I really worry about how such families are perpetuating an outdated model of society.

I wasn’t the CC crowd growing up but we had enough money so my mom stayed home. She is a declared non feminist and old fashioned. I never received any financial or career advice from her. I felt guilty so I was a SAHM for many years. When I went back to work I understood how my kids benefitted, because even though they saw me less, I was more fulfilled and understood the world better and my circle and connections grew. The hardest part has been as a woman not understanding my own worth after seeing an unhealthy dynamic modeled in my home (breadwinner/homemaker) and unlearning it in myself.

Good for you for breaking the cycle of misogyny!

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Anonymous wrote:A legally binding prenup requires the wife to be represented by counsel, who will tell her not to sign anything stupid like giving up all alimony.

I’m a big fan of pre-nups (think almost everyone should have them) but you don’t seem to understand the basics of a pre-nup.

I have one and am very familiar. I know all about both parties needing to disclose assets and have counsel for it to be legally enforceable.

So then you know competent counsel doesn’t let their clients waive alimony unless there are offsets. There’s no prenup of “completely impoverish her as soon as you’re done screwing her” that a court won’t throw out.

Attorney’s will advise. In Maryland an alimony waiver will be enforced unless the spouse is likely to be a public charge. Please look up the case law on Google Scholar.

A real legal expert here, I see.

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Anonymous wrote:As my friends and I discovered in our 20s, there is no correlation between a man’s net worth and the ability/desire for that man to treat a woman well; that is, a poor one is no less likely not to be an jerk than a rich one. If poor guys were so much better than rich ones, I think a lot more women would go that route, but since that’s the not the case, and you’re likely going to be dealing with the same stuff either way, you may as well be with a rich one (or at least not a poor one).

This is true in the same way that beautiful women are just as likely to be intelligent, funny, kind, and successful as less attractive women.

Yes? Why would this be surprising? Who do you think most Ivy League graduates marry? It’s…other Ivy League graduates. Plenty of beautiful women bring their own money and brains to the table.

Yeah but those women are not marrying some poor guy. Even rich women want to marry rich man.

I mean have you just heard now of assortive mating? Yes, wealthy people of both genders marry other wealthy people even if the man is more wealthy than the woman, they don’t marry penniless baristas who dropped out of high school.

Yeah, and this is so misguided.

Most rich men would be FAR better off with a hot, grateful, low maintenance ex-barista that is 15+ years younger. We don’t need an intellectual challenge in a wife. We don’t need someone with her own massive ambitions. I have friends and colleagues and business associates for that. We need someone to care for children, tend the home, work out, and provide sexual gratification. That’s it.

Every time I see this, I wonder if these posters imagine all children are under six years old.
Do you really want a barista telling your son whether or not he should take AP classes or helping him with his college applications?

Or do you imagine that after years of your absence at home, you are suddenly going to become the person your children come to for advice?

Marry the hot barista if that’s who you want to be with, but that marriage comes with it’s own challenges.

Do you know any baristas? This is offensive as hell. Many are quite smart, extremely personable, have interesting hobbies, and would make great partners.

Yes. If by barista you mean someone who didn’t finish college because she just didn’t find it interesting or important and had no interest in a career, then yes. I know several baristas who married men who could provide an UMC life as the sole provider.

My college roommate’s mom was one. My aunt is one. I know a couple in my kids’ gymnastics classes. I know a couple socially through work.

They are super fun and have hobbies. My roommate’s mom was hilarious, and many people were sad when she died. My aunt is an avid gardener and interior decorator. And they are great partners and great moms to little kids. But they have no idea how hard it can be to get a job that supports your family. Every single one has told their kids that grades don’t matter, refused to pay for college, and given terrible advice to their kids as older teens and young adults.

My cousins and my friend and her siblings are doing okay, but none are educated beyond college or living an UMC lifestyle.

There is a lot of truth to this. As an accomplished woman, I was able to offer my DD so much more valuable advice about grad school and professional success than my wealthy SAHM friends. They just assumed that the private school counsellor or consultant would handle that. I am always shocked that these moms don't wonder what they are teaching their kids. It is just such a continuation of the days when women NEEDED men to eat and have a roof over their heads. This site is full of posts from miserable women who feel they can't leave their husbands, because they are too dependent on the lifestyle he provides them. Plus, how will their sons see females as equals when in their family the mother was entirely dependent (note EVEN AFTER her kids were full grown) on a male. They groom themselves and make reservations. Choose curtain fabric. It is just SUCH a throwback. I really worry about how such families are perpetuating an outdated model of society.

I’m not convinced. I don’t see how living off of your own husband is that much better or worse than living off a paycheck from a corporation. Both have risks and different challenges. There are very few people who would continue their job if they earned $0. Working isn’t that great and I’m a working mom.

I’m not that PP but I think that there is a difference between being dependent on one person versus having the option to be dependent on multiple corporations. Seems like less eggs in one basket.

But I take your point.

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Anonymous wrote:As my friends and I discovered in our 20s, there is no correlation between a man’s net worth and the ability/desire for that man to treat a woman well; that is, a poor one is no less likely not to be an jerk than a rich one. If poor guys were so much better than rich ones, I think a lot more women would go that route, but since that’s the not the case, and you’re likely going to be dealing with the same stuff either way, you may as well be with a rich one (or at least not a poor one).

This is true in the same way that beautiful women are just as likely to be intelligent, funny, kind, and successful as less attractive women.

Yes? Why would this be surprising? Who do you think most Ivy League graduates marry? It’s…other Ivy League graduates. Plenty of beautiful women bring their own money and brains to the table.

Yeah but those women are not marrying some poor guy. Even rich women want to marry rich man.

I mean have you just heard now of assortive mating? Yes, wealthy people of both genders marry other wealthy people even if the man is more wealthy than the woman, they don’t marry penniless baristas who dropped out of high school.

Yeah, and this is so misguided.

Most rich men would be FAR better off with a hot, grateful, low maintenance ex-barista that is 15+ years younger. We don’t need an intellectual challenge in a wife. We don’t need someone with her own massive ambitions. I have friends and colleagues and business associates for that. We need someone to care for children, tend the home, work out, and provide sexual gratification. That’s it.

Every time I see this, I wonder if these posters imagine all children are under six years old.
Do you really want a barista telling your son whether or not he should take AP classes or helping him with his college applications?

Or do you imagine that after years of your absence at home, you are suddenly going to become the person your children come to for advice?

Marry the hot barista if that’s who you want to be with, but that marriage comes with it’s own challenges.

Do you know any baristas? This is offensive as hell. Many are quite smart, extremely personable, have interesting hobbies, and would make great partners.

Yes. If by barista you mean someone who didn’t finish college because she just didn’t find it interesting or important and had no interest in a career, then yes. I know several baristas who married men who could provide an UMC life as the sole provider.

My college roommate’s mom was one. My aunt is one. I know a couple in my kids’ gymnastics classes. I know a couple socially through work.

They are super fun and have hobbies. My roommate’s mom was hilarious, and many people were sad when she died. My aunt is an avid gardener and interior decorator. And they are great partners and great moms to little kids. But they have no idea how hard it can be to get a job that supports your family. Every single one has told their kids that grades don’t matter, refused to pay for college, and given terrible advice to their kids as older teens and young adults.

My cousins and my friend and her siblings are doing okay, but none are educated beyond college or living an UMC lifestyle.

There is a lot of truth to this. As an accomplished woman, I was able to offer my DD so much more valuable advice about grad school and professional success than my wealthy SAHM friends. They just assumed that the private school counsellor or consultant would handle that. I am always shocked that these moms don't wonder what they are teaching their kids. It is just such a continuation of the days when women NEEDED men to eat and have a roof over their heads. This site is full of posts from miserable women who feel they can't leave their husbands, because they are too dependent on the lifestyle he provides them. Plus, how will their sons see females as equals when in their family the mother was entirely dependent (note EVEN AFTER her kids were full grown) on a male. They groom themselves and make reservations. Choose curtain fabric. It is just SUCH a throwback. I really worry about how such families are perpetuating an outdated model of society.

I don't know. I am a SAHM and I see the problems for sure, but I look at women who are really frustrated they are working full time and yet their husbands assume little responsibility for the home and kids, and I think "hmm, I don't know which would be worse." Not that I think my husband would be like that, but I just think that being a SAHM isn't the problem, the problem is patriarchy generally. Take away patriarchy and you don't have the issue of SAHMs lbeing dependent on husbands or working moms struggling to do it all. IN fact you would probably eliminate the need for women to have to pick between the two extremes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why men get blamed for woman not working. I know plenty of woman that don’t work and have no desire to work. My guess is that if they don’t need to most people would prefer not to work.
Outside of a very small group of people, once your dead no one is going to care that you were VP, CEO, Senior Partner at ABC & D.

I was at lunch the other day and the woman sitting next to me was telling her friend that now her last kid was going off to college her husband wanted her to get a job. Her response was, “I have an outdated degree and I am not starting a career at nearly 48 if I don’t need to and I am not going to get an hourly position at pottery barn.” I can’t say I really disagree with her.

She could be a nanny!

But the point is, why? If you really don’t need the money. After raising your own kids, why would you want to go help raise someone else’s kid if you don’t need to and it really doesn’t benefit you.

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Anonymous wrote:Independently wealthy women also don’t suffer a lack of male company and attention, but other women don’t get bent out of shape about that and post about it trying to make men look bad and shallow.

Fat, ugly old men who show up at events with gorgeous twenty-somethings don't need posters on DCUM to make them look bad and shallow.

True I just mean the people mad that women prefer rich men are…poor men. Poor women don’t get nearly so bent out of shape that care rich women get a lot of attention from men.

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Anonymous wrote:Independently wealthy women also don’t suffer a lack of male company and attention, but other women don’t get bent out of shape about that and post about it trying to make men look bad and shallow.

Fat, ugly old men who show up at events with gorgeous twenty-somethings don't need posters on DCUM to make them look bad and shallow.

True I just mean the people mad that women prefer rich men are…poor men. Poor women don’t get nearly so bent out of shape that care rich women get a lot of attention from men.

Rich women do not get attention form men.

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Anonymous wrote:As my friends and I discovered in our 20s, there is no correlation between a man’s net worth and the ability/desire for that man to treat a woman well; that is, a poor one is no less likely not to be an jerk than a rich one. If poor guys were so much better than rich ones, I think a lot more women would go that route, but since that’s the not the case, and you’re likely going to be dealing with the same stuff either way, you may as well be with a rich one (or at least not a poor one).

This is true in the same way that beautiful women are just as likely to be intelligent, funny, kind, and successful as less attractive women.

Yes? Why would this be surprising? Who do you think most Ivy League graduates marry? It’s…other Ivy League graduates. Plenty of beautiful women bring their own money and brains to the table.

Yeah but those women are not marrying some poor guy. Even rich women want to marry rich man.

I mean have you just heard now of assortive mating? Yes, wealthy people of both genders marry other wealthy people even if the man is more wealthy than the woman, they don’t marry penniless baristas who dropped out of high school.

Yeah, and this is so misguided.

Most rich men would be FAR better off with a hot, grateful, low maintenance ex-barista that is 15+ years younger. We don’t need an intellectual challenge in a wife. We don’t need someone with her own massive ambitions. I have friends and colleagues and business associates for that. We need someone to care for children, tend the home, work out, and provide sexual gratification. That’s it.

Every time I see this, I wonder if these posters imagine all children are under six years old.
Do you really want a barista telling your son whether or not he should take AP classes or helping him with his college applications?

Or do you imagine that after years of your absence at home, you are suddenly going to become the person your children come to for advice?

Marry the hot barista if that’s who you want to be with, but that marriage comes with it’s own challenges.

Do you know any baristas? This is offensive as hell. Many are quite smart, extremely personable, have interesting hobbies, and would make great partners.

Yes. If by barista you mean someone who didn’t finish college because she just didn’t find it interesting or important and had no interest in a career, then yes. I know several baristas who married men who could provide an UMC life as the sole provider.

My college roommate’s mom was one. My aunt is one. I know a couple in my kids’ gymnastics classes. I know a couple socially through work.

They are super fun and have hobbies. My roommate’s mom was hilarious, and many people were sad when she died. My aunt is an avid gardener and interior decorator. And they are great partners and great moms to little kids. But they have no idea how hard it can be to get a job that supports your family. Every single one has told their kids that grades don’t matter, refused to pay for college, and given terrible advice to their kids as older teens and young adults.

My cousins and my friend and her siblings are doing okay, but none are educated beyond college or living an UMC lifestyle.

There is a lot of truth to this. As an accomplished woman, I was able to offer my DD so much more valuable advice about grad school and professional success than my wealthy SAHM friends. They just assumed that the private school counsellor or consultant would handle that. I am always shocked that these moms don't wonder what they are teaching their kids. It is just such a continuation of the days when women NEEDED men to eat and have a roof over their heads. This site is full of posts from miserable women who feel they can't leave their husbands, because they are too dependent on the lifestyle he provides them. Plus, how will their sons see females as equals when in their family the mother was entirely dependent (note EVEN AFTER her kids were full grown) on a male. They groom themselves and make reservations. Choose curtain fabric. It is just SUCH a throwback. I really worry about how such families are perpetuating an outdated model of society.

I’m not convinced. I don’t see how living off of your own husband is that much better or worse than living off a paycheck from a corporation. Both have risks and different challenges. There are very few people who would continue their job if they earned $0. Working isn’t that great and I’m a working mom.

stay stuck on stupid then.

the false equivalence is amazing in your statement.

women like you deserve to get GOT!

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Anonymous wrote:As my friends and I discovered in our 20s, there is no correlation between a man’s net worth and the ability/desire for that man to treat a woman well; that is, a poor one is no less likely not to be an jerk than a rich one. If poor guys were so much better than rich ones, I think a lot more women would go that route, but since that’s the not the case, and you’re likely going to be dealing with the same stuff either way, you may as well be with a rich one (or at least not a poor one).

This is true in the same way that beautiful women are just as likely to be intelligent, funny, kind, and successful as less attractive women.

Yes? Why would this be surprising? Who do you think most Ivy League graduates marry? It’s…other Ivy League graduates. Plenty of beautiful women bring their own money and brains to the table.

Yeah but those women are not marrying some poor guy. Even rich women want to marry rich man.

I mean have you just heard now of assortive mating? Yes, wealthy people of both genders marry other wealthy people even if the man is more wealthy than the woman, they don’t marry penniless baristas who dropped out of high school.

Yeah, and this is so misguided.

Most rich men would be FAR better off with a hot, grateful, low maintenance ex-barista that is 15+ years younger. We don’t need an intellectual challenge in a wife. We don’t need someone with her own massive ambitions. I have friends and colleagues and business associates for that. We need someone to care for children, tend the home, work out, and provide sexual gratification. That’s it.

Every time I see this, I wonder if these posters imagine all children are under six years old.
Do you really want a barista telling your son whether or not he should take AP classes or helping him with his college applications?

Or do you imagine that after years of your absence at home, you are suddenly going to become the person your children come to for advice?

Marry the hot barista if that’s who you want to be with, but that marriage comes with it’s own challenges.

Do you know any baristas? This is offensive as hell. Many are quite smart, extremely personable, have interesting hobbies, and would make great partners.

Yes. If by barista you mean someone who didn’t finish college because she just didn’t find it interesting or important and had no interest in a career, then yes. I know several baristas who married men who could provide an UMC life as the sole provider.

My college roommate’s mom was one. My aunt is one. I know a couple in my kids’ gymnastics classes. I know a couple socially through work.

They are super fun and have hobbies. My roommate’s mom was hilarious, and many people were sad when she died. My aunt is an avid gardener and interior decorator. And they are great partners and great moms to little kids. But they have no idea how hard it can be to get a job that supports your family. Every single one has told their kids that grades don’t matter, refused to pay for college, and given terrible advice to their kids as older teens and young adults.

My cousins and my friend and her siblings are doing okay, but none are educated beyond college or living an UMC lifestyle.

There is a lot of truth to this. As an accomplished woman, I was able to offer my DD so much more valuable advice about grad school and professional success than my wealthy SAHM friends. They just assumed that the private school counsellor or consultant would handle that. I am always shocked that these moms don't wonder what they are teaching their kids. It is just such a continuation of the days when women NEEDED men to eat and have a roof over their heads. This site is full of posts from miserable women who feel they can't leave their husbands, because they are too dependent on the lifestyle he provides them. Plus, how will their sons see females as equals when in their family the mother was entirely dependent (note EVEN AFTER her kids were full grown) on a male. They groom themselves and make reservations. Choose curtain fabric. It is just SUCH a throwback. I really worry about how such families are perpetuating an outdated model of society.

I’m not convinced. I don’t see how living off of your own husband is that much better or worse than living off a paycheck from a corporation. Both have risks and different challenges. There are very few people who would continue their job if they earned $0. Working isn’t that great and I’m a working mom.

stay stuck on stupid then.

the false equivalence is amazing in your statement.

women like you deserve to get GOT!

Lol how is PP going to get got? By getting a paycheck?

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Rich men—especially, good looking ones, will always be highly sought after. The same goes for beautiful young women—skinny ones.