Two week old will not breastfeed

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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.


Most newborns eat every two hours. They have small stomach and can only eats 2-3 ounces at a time.


the point of this advice is to get the baby motivated to take a full feed instead of eating pretty much constantly.


You don’t know babies at all. 2 ounces is a full feed for a two week old. Most babies don’t start taking 3-4oz per feed until 1+ months. 2 ounces every two hours is considered a full feed for a 2 week old.


+1. This. These so called “ baby experts” don’t know squat. 2 ounces is considered a full feed for a two week old. I work in healthcare ( L&D) and have several friends in the same industry. I have two kids myself. A newborns stomach is the size of their first. Two ounces is perfectly normal and not considered a snack at all.


If you work in L&D then you don't know anything about babies past 2 hours of life when they are transferred to PP. If you also work in PP then you don't know anything about babies past a few days of life when they go home. I worked in NICU for years and the standard feeding schedule there is every 3 hours. Now if a term baby is starving at 2 hours and it's not medically contraindicated then we could go ahead and feed them but I believe OP said she was waking the baby every 2 hours. To me it sounds like the baby isn't actually all that hungry...Anyway it was just a suggestion to try, OP doesn't have to marry it.



PP here. Many babies are put on a 3 hour feeding schedule but most breastfed newborns eat every 2-3 hours. Every two hours is very normal for a 2 week old breastfed baby. OP stated that he lets them know he is hungry. Both of my breastfed babies fed every two hours for the first month and then every two hours until 6 months. Sometimes even every hour once they started sleeping through the night.


And both of my breastfed babies ate every 3-4 hours the first few months with my oversupply. We don't know how much OPs baby would eat on his own because his main nutrition right now is 2 oz every 2 hours in the syringe. If this baby were in the NICU he would be prescribed 2.5 oz every 3 hrs, though many I took care of would easily take up to 3 oz if allowed to do so, so I legitimately think the baby might not be hungry at 2 hours. Again, just a suggestion since what OP is currently doing isn't a long term solution (thus why she's posting here).


Your baby is an anomaly. Most breastfed babies can’t go 4 hours between feeds. Her baby is her baby and I think she knows how to feed him. I don’t think she cares about your opinion.
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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.


OP here. We tried that and he gets hungry at 2 hours. We have tried offering him more and he will not take more than 2 ounces a feed. He wakes himself up to eat for most of the feedings and at night. He will let us know when he is hungry at the two hour mark. The pediatrician and lactation consultant told us to feed him him every two hours. I trust their medical knowledge and expertise.
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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.


Most newborns eat every two hours. They have small stomach and can only eats 2-3 ounces at a time.


And this is not true at all. Many newborn babies refuse breast and many newborn refuse refuse the bottle.


I know at least 10 babies that refused bottles as newborns/infants.


Guarantee you they all had moms who never left the house.
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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.


OP here. We tried that and he gets hungry at 2 hours. We have tried offering him more and he will not take more than 2 ounces a feed. He wakes himself up to eat for most of the feedings and at night. He will let us know when he is hungry at the two hour mark. The pediatrician and lactation consultant told us to feed him him every two hours. I trust their medical knowledge and expertise.


Ok OP if you want to feed him every 2 hours, feed him every 2 hours and stop "I spend most of the day just letting him try to latch and eat between syringe feeding." I still think you are offering too frequently.
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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.


OP here. We tried that and he gets hungry at 2 hours. We have tried offering him more and he will not take more than 2 ounces a feed. He wakes himself up to eat for most of the feedings and at night. He will let us know when he is hungry at the two hour mark. The pediatrician and lactation consultant told us to feed him him every two hours. I trust their medical knowledge and expertise.


Ok but their medical knowledge and expertise isn’t working.
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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.


OP here. We tried that and he gets hungry at 2 hours. We have tried offering him more and he will not take more than 2 ounces a feed. He wakes himself up to eat for most of the feedings and at night. He will let us know when he is hungry at the two hour mark. The pediatrician and lactation consultant told us to feed him him every two hours. I trust their medical knowledge and expertise.


Ok OP if you want to feed him every 2 hours, feed him every 2 hours and stop "I spend most of the day just letting him try to latch and eat between syringe feeding." I still think you are offering too frequently.


Don’t come on the thread then. It’s really that simple.
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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.


OP here. We tried that and he gets hungry at 2 hours. We have tried offering him more and he will not take more than 2 ounces a feed. He wakes himself up to eat for most of the feedings and at night. He will let us know when he is hungry at the two hour mark. The pediatrician and lactation consultant told us to feed him him every two hours. I trust their medical knowledge and expertise.


Ok but their medical knowledge and expertise isn’t working.


So she is supposed to take the advise down so called baby expert stranger online? Yeah, no.
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I love all the “ experts” on here who think they know more than OP, a pediatrician, and a lactation consultant. Lots of armchair experts here.
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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.


Most newborns eat every two hours. They have small stomach and can only eats 2-3 ounces at a time.


the point of this advice is to get the baby motivated to take a full feed instead of eating pretty much constantly.


You don’t know babies at all. 2 ounces is a full feed for a two week old. Most babies don’t start taking 3-4oz per feed until 1+ months. 2 ounces every two hours is considered a full feed for a 2 week old.


+1. This. These so called “ baby experts” don’t know squat. 2 ounces is considered a full feed for a two week old. I work in healthcare ( L&D) and have several friends in the same industry. I have two kids myself. A newborns stomach is the size of their first. Two ounces is perfectly normal and not considered a snack at all.


If you work in L&D then you don't know anything about babies past 2 hours of life when they are transferred to PP. If you also work in PP then you don't know anything about babies past a few days of life when they go home. I worked in NICU for years and the standard feeding schedule there is every 3 hours. Now if a term baby is starving at 2 hours and it's not medically contraindicated then we could go ahead and feed them but I believe OP said she was waking the baby every 2 hours. To me it sounds like the baby isn't actually all that hungry...Anyway it was just a suggestion to try, OP doesn't have to marry it.


OP said the baby will eat every 1-2 hours and he will let them know when he is hungry. She said he usually eats 2oz every 2 hours and cries to let them know. It doesn’t make any difference for if OP feeds every 2 hours or every 3 hours if he is taking the same amount each day.


It absolutely could make a difference. The baby’s eating is very disorganized right now; with four different methods (breast, shield, syringe, and bottle), with the baby taking a long time to eat. Most babies do fine if they feed on demand and you follow their signals. But that is not what is happening here. More structure could help.
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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.


Most newborns eat every two hours. They have small stomach and can only eats 2-3 ounces at a time.


the point of this advice is to get the baby motivated to take a full feed instead of eating pretty much constantly.


You don’t know babies at all. 2 ounces is a full feed for a two week old. Most babies don’t start taking 3-4oz per feed until 1+ months. 2 ounces every two hours is considered a full feed for a 2 week old.


+1. This. These so called “ baby experts” don’t know squat. 2 ounces is considered a full feed for a two week old. I work in healthcare ( L&D) and have several friends in the same industry. I have two kids myself. A newborns stomach is the size of their first. Two ounces is perfectly normal and not considered a snack at all.


If you work in L&D then you don't know anything about babies past 2 hours of life when they are transferred to PP. If you also work in PP then you don't know anything about babies past a few days of life when they go home. I worked in NICU for years and the standard feeding schedule there is every 3 hours. Now if a term baby is starving at 2 hours and it's not medically contraindicated then we could go ahead and feed them but I believe OP said she was waking the baby every 2 hours. To me it sounds like the baby isn't actually all that hungry...Anyway it was just a suggestion to try, OP doesn't have to marry it.



PP here. Many babies are put on a 3 hour feeding schedule but most breastfed newborns eat every 2-3 hours. Every two hours is very normal for a 2 week old breastfed baby. OP stated that he lets them know he is hungry. Both of my breastfed babies fed every two hours for the first month and then every two hours until 6 months. Sometimes even every hour once they started sleeping through the night.


And both of my breastfed babies ate every 3-4 hours the first few months with my oversupply. We don't know how much OPs baby would eat on his own because his main nutrition right now is 2 oz every 2 hours in the syringe. If this baby were in the NICU he would be prescribed 2.5 oz every 3 hrs, though many I took care of would easily take up to 3 oz if allowed to do so, so I legitimately think the baby might not be hungry at 2 hours. Again, just a suggestion since what OP is currently doing isn't a long term solution (thus why she's posting here).


Your baby is an anomaly. Most breastfed babies can’t go 4 hours between feeds. Her baby is her baby and I think she knows how to feed him. I don’t think she cares about your opinion.


I mean, OP is posting here with a pretty serious infant feeding problem. Not sure what you are getting so worked up about.
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Anonymous wrote:I love all the “ experts” on here who think they know more than OP, a pediatrician, and a lactation consultant. Lots of armchair experts here.


Except the pediatrician isn't really in the loop and shes going to fire the lactation consultant for a new one. OP isnt just posting here for fun, yet doesn't seem open to any different advice either. My suggestion was reasonable idk why all these people are getting their panties in a wad over it.

My last advice to OP is since he likes MAM pacifiers is that MAM makes bottles and nipples too if you haven't tried that yet (didn't see it in the list).
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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.


Most newborns eat every two hours. They have small stomach and can only eats 2-3 ounces at a time.


the point of this advice is to get the baby motivated to take a full feed instead of eating pretty much constantly.


You don’t know babies at all. 2 ounces is a full feed for a two week old. Most babies don’t start taking 3-4oz per feed until 1+ months. 2 ounces every two hours is considered a full feed for a 2 week old.


+1. This. These so called “ baby experts” don’t know squat. 2 ounces is considered a full feed for a two week old. I work in healthcare ( L&D) and have several friends in the same industry. I have two kids myself. A newborns stomach is the size of their first. Two ounces is perfectly normal and not considered a snack at all.


If you work in L&D then you don't know anything about babies past 2 hours of life when they are transferred to PP. If you also work in PP then you don't know anything about babies past a few days of life when they go home. I worked in NICU for years and the standard feeding schedule there is every 3 hours. Now if a term baby is starving at 2 hours and it's not medically contraindicated then we could go ahead and feed them but I believe OP said she was waking the baby every 2 hours. To me it sounds like the baby isn't actually all that hungry...Anyway it was just a suggestion to try, OP doesn't have to marry it.


OP said the baby will eat every 1-2 hours and he will let them know when he is hungry. She said he usually eats 2oz every 2 hours and cries to let them know. It doesn’t make any difference for if OP feeds every 2 hours or every 3 hours if he is taking the same amount each day.


It absolutely could make a difference. The baby’s eating is very disorganized right now; with four different methods (breast, shield, syringe, and bottle), with the baby taking a long time to eat. Most babies do fine if they feed on demand and you follow their signals. But that is not what is happening here. More structure could help.


Their schedule seems fairly structured.
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My baby wouldn't latch from my breast from the very beginning. I just started pumping milk using my breast pump and fed baby from the bottle. That was my solution. I don't what else I can advice. My lactation consultant drove me crazy when I was in the hospital because she wanted my baby to be breastfed. My baby was premature and only 4 lbs and just wouldn't suck the nipple.
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Anonymous wrote:I love all the “ experts” on here who think they know more than OP, a pediatrician, and a lactation consultant. Lots of armchair experts here.


Except the pediatrician isn't really in the loop and shes going to fire the lactation consultant for a new one. OP isnt just posting here for fun, yet doesn't seem open to any different advice either. My suggestion was reasonable idk why all these people are getting their panties in a wad over it.

My last advice to OP is since he likes MAM pacifiers is that MAM makes bottles and nipples too if you haven't tried that yet (didn't see it in the list).


This is a lie. Look back at the thread - OP has taken almost every suggestion from previous posters on here. They told her to contact a new location consultant - doing that, told her to try other bottles - she is doing that, told her get a SNS - doing that.

You don’t like that she isn’t following your advice, which isn’t even advice. You’re just criticizing her.
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Anonymous wrote:I would actually try to stretch feeding intervals out a bit longer. Sometimes when they eat 2 oz every 2 hrs it's more like a snack and they never really feel really hungry. I would try 2.5-3 hrs at a higher volume for the same total volume per day. That being said I've worked with probably over 1000 babies and I can't recall a newborn who refuses a bottle- usually it's the opposite problem- so I would definitely be pushing for some sort of evaluation. If you suspect tongue tie, you can probably make an appointment with a ENT or dentist yourself depending on your insurance plan.


Most newborns eat every two hours. They have small stomach and can only eats 2-3 ounces at a time.


the point of this advice is to get the baby motivated to take a full feed instead of eating pretty much constantly.


You don’t know babies at all. 2 ounces is a full feed for a two week old. Most babies don’t start taking 3-4oz per feed until 1+ months. 2 ounces every two hours is considered a full feed for a 2 week old.


+1. This. These so called “ baby experts” don’t know squat. 2 ounces is considered a full feed for a two week old. I work in healthcare ( L&D) and have several friends in the same industry. I have two kids myself. A newborns stomach is the size of their first. Two ounces is perfectly normal and not considered a snack at all.


If you work in L&D then you don't know anything about babies past 2 hours of life when they are transferred to PP. If you also work in PP then you don't know anything about babies past a few days of life when they go home. I worked in NICU for years and the standard feeding schedule there is every 3 hours. Now if a term baby is starving at 2 hours and it's not medically contraindicated then we could go ahead and feed them but I believe OP said she was waking the baby every 2 hours. To me it sounds like the baby isn't actually all that hungry...Anyway it was just a suggestion to try, OP doesn't have to marry it.


OP said the baby will eat every 1-2 hours and he will let them know when he is hungry. She said he usually eats 2oz every 2 hours and cries to let them know. It doesn’t make any difference for if OP feeds every 2 hours or every 3 hours if he is taking the same amount each day.


It absolutely could make a difference. The baby’s eating is very disorganized right now; with four different methods (breast, shield, syringe, and bottle), with the baby taking a long time to eat. Most babies do fine if they feed on demand and you follow their signals. But that is not what is happening here. More structure could help.


Their schedule seems fairly structured.


+1. OP posted a day to day on a previous page. They feed him two ounces every two hours at 6am, 8am, 10, 12pm, 2pm, 4pm, 6pm, 8pm, 10pm, 12am, 2am, and 4am. That is structured.
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