Christopher Newport — school spirit

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Anonymous wrote:Our counselor told us that CNU historically have not put much weight on SAT/ACT scores. I realize they have a fairly high admissions % so that may be why, but they also are one of the few to encourage interviews for all applicants. They seem to have a holistic approach.

I think your counselor is mistaken. Look at the SCHEV statistics

You may be right but teen applied test optional and was admitted.

And they are hooked, no?

The answer to this really wouldn't prove anything. Schools like CNU that aren't highly selective are going to admit some unhooked TO kids who have strong grades, ECs, etc. Different story for unhooked kids from the DMV at UVA (although even there it's still possible, but a real long shot).

Yet, SCHEV indicates that the 75th percentile of students enrolled last fall had a 1320 SAT and a 29 ACT and a 4.12 GPA.

And the most recent (2021-22) common data set for CNU shows that only 36% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and only 2% submitted ACT scores. Thus a big majority of accepted students were TO. Not too different for JMU, by the way -- 25% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and 5% submitted ACT scores. But very different from UVA -- 51% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and 21% submitted ACT scores. (And for good measures, at VT it was 42% and 12%, respectively.)

Now I realize the pandemic may have impacted the percentage of students taking standardized admissions tests, but that would NOT account for the big discrepancy between and CNU/JMU and UVA figures. And there's no way that the percentage of test takers would have rebounded that sharply since then.

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Anonymous wrote:Our counselor told us that CNU historically have not put much weight on SAT/ACT scores. I realize they have a fairly high admissions % so that may be why, but they also are one of the few to encourage interviews for all applicants. They seem to have a holistic approach.

I think your counselor is mistaken. Look at the SCHEV statistics

You may be right but teen applied test optional and was admitted.

And they are hooked, no?

The answer to this really wouldn't prove anything. Schools like CNU that aren't highly selective are going to admit some unhooked TO kids who have strong grades, ECs, etc. Different story for unhooked kids from the DMV at UVA (although even there it's still possible, but a real long shot).

Yet, SCHEV indicates that the 75th percentile of students enrolled last fall had a 1320 SAT and a 29 ACT and a 4.12 GPA.

And the most recent (2021-22) common data set for CNU shows that only 36% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and only 2% submitted ACT scores. Thus a big majority of accepted students were TO. Not too different for JMU, by the way -- 25% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and 5% submitted ACT scores. But very different from UVA -- 51% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and 21% submitted ACT scores. (And for good measures, at VT it was 42% and 12%, respectively.)

Now I realize the pandemic may have impacted the percentage of students taking standardized admissions tests, but that would NOT account for the big discrepancy between and CNU/JMU and UVA figures. And there's no way that the percentage of test takers would have rebounded that sharply since then.

SCHEV doesn’t use common app stats.

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Anonymous wrote:Our counselor told us that CNU historically have not put much weight on SAT/ACT scores. I realize they have a fairly high admissions % so that may be why, but they also are one of the few to encourage interviews for all applicants. They seem to have a holistic approach.

I think your counselor is mistaken. Look at the SCHEV statistics

You may be right but teen applied test optional and was admitted.

And they are hooked, no?

The answer to this really wouldn't prove anything. Schools like CNU that aren't highly selective are going to admit some unhooked TO kids who have strong grades, ECs, etc. Different story for unhooked kids from the DMV at UVA (although even there it's still possible, but a real long shot).

Yet, SCHEV indicates that the 75th percentile of students enrolled last fall had a 1320 SAT and a 29 ACT and a 4.12 GPA.

And the most recent (2021-22) common data set for CNU shows that only 36% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and only 2% submitted ACT scores. Thus a big majority of accepted students were TO. Not too different for JMU, by the way -- 25% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and 5% submitted ACT scores. But very different from UVA -- 51% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and 21% submitted ACT scores. (And for good measures, at VT it was 42% and 12%, respectively.)

Now I realize the pandemic may have impacted the percentage of students taking standardized admissions tests, but that would NOT account for the big discrepancy between and CNU/JMU and UVA figures. And there's no way that the percentage of test takers would have rebounded that sharply since then.

SCHEV doesn’t use common app stats.

Okay, but how is that relevant here? The figures above on percent of enrolled test takers is from the Common Data Set for each school, the information for which comes directly from the schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you have to look if the school is right for the kid. My kid is not an academic rockstar -- he's very average (and not DCUM average with "only a 4.1 GPA". He will be best suited in a smaller environment, he will be focusing on liberal arts, and he wants to be within 2-3 hours of home. So we're totally looking at CNU and UMW, as we would prefer to not have him take any loans (we can pay instate tuition outright), and places like GMU are indeed too commuter for us -- that campus feels like an office park. I personally like UVA and W&M, but I'm realistic to know that there's not a chance in heck he'd get in there. Given how nuts admissions have been, I'm even a bit despondent that he'll get in there - he's not one of those high-charging kids with lots of ECs, and he's very mildly HFA, so he's also content to just chill.

It has zero to do with the diversity or fear of "urban" environments. I want him to be somewhere where there's a chance that someone will know his name and a professor or two might actually look out for him.

Not only wouldn't my son get accepted at UVA, he would not be able to stay there.

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PP with a kid at CNU. We just got a letter stating kid had made dean's list. As we talked about it, my kid said "cool - the guy that signed the letter (a Dean ) I met at the President's House Reception - we talked about my major, he told me his experience and then encouraged me to pursue it and to feel free to drop by to talk to him any time. I've seen him around campus and he always says hi." This honestly shouldn't be that big of a deal, but given my other kids experiences at their respective DCUM approved schools, this is highly unusual and speaks to the culture at CNU.

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lip service

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Anonymous wrote:Our counselor told us that CNU historically have not put much weight on SAT/ACT scores. I realize they have a fairly high admissions % so that may be why, but they also are one of the few to encourage interviews for all applicants. They seem to have a holistic approach.

I think your counselor is mistaken. Look at the SCHEV statistics

You may be right but teen applied test optional and was admitted.

And they are hooked, no?

The answer to this really wouldn't prove anything. Schools like CNU that aren't highly selective are going to admit some unhooked TO kids who have strong grades, ECs, etc. Different story for unhooked kids from the DMV at UVA (although even there it's still possible, but a real long shot).

Yet, SCHEV indicates that the 75th percentile of students enrolled last fall had a 1320 SAT and a 29 ACT and a 4.12 GPA.

And the most recent (2021-22) common data set for CNU shows that only 36% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and only 2% submitted ACT scores. Thus a big majority of accepted students were TO. Not too different for JMU, by the way -- 25% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and 5% submitted ACT scores. But very different from UVA -- 51% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and 21% submitted ACT scores. (And for good measures, at VT it was 42% and 12%, respectively.)

Now I realize the pandemic may have impacted the percentage of students taking standardized admissions tests, but that would NOT account for the big discrepancy between and CNU/JMU and UVA figures. And there's no way that the percentage of test takers would have rebounded that sharply since then.

SCHEV doesn’t use common app stats.

Okay, but how is that relevant here? The figures above on percent of enrolled test takers is from the Common Data Set for each school, the information for which comes directly from the schools.

We are citing SCHEV. Common app is irrelevant

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Anonymous wrote:Our counselor told us that CNU historically have not put much weight on SAT/ACT scores. I realize they have a fairly high admissions % so that may be why, but they also are one of the few to encourage interviews for all applicants. They seem to have a holistic approach.

I think your counselor is mistaken. Look at the SCHEV statistics

You may be right but teen applied test optional and was admitted.

And they are hooked, no?

The answer to this really wouldn't prove anything. Schools like CNU that aren't highly selective are going to admit some unhooked TO kids who have strong grades, ECs, etc. Different story for unhooked kids from the DMV at UVA (although even there it's still possible, but a real long shot).

Yet, SCHEV indicates that the 75th percentile of students enrolled last fall had a 1320 SAT and a 29 ACT and a 4.12 GPA.

And the most recent (2021-22) common data set for CNU shows that only 36% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and only 2% submitted ACT scores. Thus a big majority of accepted students were TO. Not too different for JMU, by the way -- 25% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and 5% submitted ACT scores. But very different from UVA -- 51% of enrolled freshmen submitted SAT scores and 21% submitted ACT scores. (And for good measures, at VT it was 42% and 12%, respectively.)

Now I realize the pandemic may have impacted the percentage of students taking standardized admissions tests, but that would NOT account for the big discrepancy between and CNU/JMU and UVA figures. And there's no way that the percentage of test takers would have rebounded that sharply since then.

SCHEV doesn’t use common app stats.

Okay, but how is that relevant here? The figures above on percent of enrolled test takers is from the Common Data Set for each school, the information for which comes directly from the schools.

We are citing SCHEV. Common app is irrelevant

1. No one is talking about the common app. They are talking about the common data set (CDS). The common app and the CDS are two completely different, unrelated things.

2. SCHEV says the same thing as the CDS: 365 of 1012 CNU freshmen (36%) reported an SAT score.

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Anonymous wrote:PP with a kid at CNU. We just got a letter stating kid had made dean's list. As we talked about it, my kid said "cool - the guy that signed the letter (a Dean ) I met at the President's House Reception - we talked about my major, he told me his experience and then encouraged me to pursue it and to feel free to drop by to talk to him any time. I've seen him around campus and he always says hi." This honestly shouldn't be that big of a deal, but given my other kids experiences at their respective DCUM approved schools, this is highly unusual and speaks to the culture at CNU.

We attended CNU's orientation last week. We were impressed by the faculty involvement with students beyond the classroom. I suppose it's easy to think this is all optics for parents. It's good to read a post here that shows this faculty involvement is reality.

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Anonymous wrote:PP with a kid at CNU. We just got a letter stating kid had made dean's list. As we talked about it, my kid said "cool - the guy that signed the letter (a Dean ) I met at the President's House Reception - we talked about my major, he told me his experience and then encouraged me to pursue it and to feel free to drop by to talk to him any time. I've seen him around campus and he always says hi." This honestly shouldn't be that big of a deal, but given my other kids experiences at their respective DCUM approved schools, this is highly unusual and speaks to the culture at CNU.

We attended CNU's orientation last week. We were impressed by the faculty involvement with students beyond the classroom. I suppose it's easy to think this is all optics for parents. It's good to read a post here that shows this faculty involvement is reality.

We also went to orientation recently and thought it was really helpful for both parents and students. It was low key, busy, pretty serious for the parents at least, my student met a lot of new people and is really excited. One thing I noticed was a lack of school cheers, cheerleaders, and other booster type stuff. They mentioned athletics and marching band a couple times, and has information sessions for those involved. They encouraged us to attend parents weekend and everything had a captain theme, but they did not hype up the sports teams like I would expect a large school would. They made a bigger deal out of the presidential leadership scholars I thought.

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Anonymous wrote:PP with a kid at CNU. We just got a letter stating kid had made dean's list. As we talked about it, my kid said "cool - the guy that signed the letter (a Dean ) I met at the President's House Reception - we talked about my major, he told me his experience and then encouraged me to pursue it and to feel free to drop by to talk to him any time. I've seen him around campus and he always says hi." This honestly shouldn't be that big of a deal, but given my other kids experiences at their respective DCUM approved schools, this is highly unusual and speaks to the culture at CNU.

We attended CNU's orientation last week. We were impressed by the faculty involvement with students beyond the classroom. I suppose it's easy to think this is all optics for parents. It's good to read a post here that shows this faculty involvement is reality.

We also went to orientation recently and thought it was really helpful for both parents and students. It was low key, busy, pretty serious for the parents at least, my student met a lot of new people and is really excited. One thing I noticed was a lack of school cheers, cheerleaders, and other booster type stuff. They mentioned athletics and marching band a couple times, and has information sessions for those involved. They encouraged us to attend parents weekend and everything had a captain theme, but they did not hype up the sports teams like I would expect a large school would. They made a bigger deal out of the presidential leadership scholars I thought.

We saw a lot of that with the Crew Leaders. Since they had four separate orientation sessions, I am guessing the school opted to not bring the cheerleaders/flag squad in for four weeks and instead had the crew leaders.

https://cnu.edu/orientation/freshman/settingsail/

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Anonymous wrote:Our counselor told us that CNU historically have not put much weight on SAT/ACT scores. I realize they have a fairly high admissions % so that may be why, but they also are one of the few to encourage interviews for all applicants. They seem to have a holistic approach.

https://cnu.edu/admission/freshman/howtoapply/testoptional/

Christopher Newport was one of the first public universities in Virginia to offer test-optional admission over a decade ago, and many of our admission offers are made each year to students who choose not to submit standardized test scores. We made further concessions in 2020-21 to account for testing hardships by lifting the minimum GPA and rank-in-class requirements for test-optional consideration.

Our holistic review process takes many factors into consideration, and applying test-optional requires that we place more emphasis on other credentials.

Many students still choose to submit standardized test scores from the Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT), American College Test (ACT) and/or the Classic Learning Test (CLT) to bolster their admission and scholarship applications.

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Bumping this thread and interested in any newer perspectives on CNU - thanks!

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Capitain Chris!

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Anonymous wrote:CNU was a two year community college that commonly fed into William and Mary. I think they switched to a university in the early 90s so it’s a newer yet growing university. I’m from VB. I was surprised when we were going through our college consulting advisor when he brought up CNU as a match for my son. I would def suggest going to campus and checking it out! . It’s a great location as far as being close to a city and a beach.

Christopher Newport has been a four year institution since 1971.

Christopher Newport, ODU, VCU, all used to be a part of William & Mary in the same way GMU, UMW used to be a part of the University of Virginia.