Are only kids of wealthy parents in elite professions majoring in arts/going to elite colleges?

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Anonymous wrote:If anybody I knew growing up was majoring in English or History, it was with an education certification added on. They were onto something!

MYY History degree got me into Harvard Law School.

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Anonymous wrote:We will have an oversupply of CS people, like we had librarians, pharmacists, and nurses in the past. The top ones, with keen business sense and strong interpersonal relationships, will make top $ and know which startup to join. The rest will end up at Accenture, writing code and building databases for some tired federal agency, and getting paid $150K/year.

Getting a $150k starting salary with only a bachelors is a huge deal.

Whose getting that!?!

Starting salary at most consulting firms like Bain, McKinsey and Accenture is above $100k plus joining bonus.

One of these things is not like the other.

NP. I can confirm that the starting offers from Accenture are >$100K + joining bonus these days.

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Anonymous wrote:We will have an oversupply of CS people, like we had librarians, pharmacists, and nurses in the past. The top ones, with keen business sense and strong interpersonal relationships, will make top $ and know which startup to join. The rest will end up at Accenture, writing code and building databases for some tired federal agency, and getting paid $150K/year.

Getting a $150k starting salary with only a bachelors is a huge deal.

Yup. Way better than having to do 8-10 years of med school, residency etc to get $150k in primary care or pediatrics.

You have no idea what you're saying. My DC1 is in med school. First, a pediatrician in DC area makes around 300k base salary to start. 180K is base pay first year in Podank, Nebraska and those positions are filled by foreign residents with med school outside US. People get into pediatrics because the schedule is wonderful and they don't work 40 hours/week, so it's very family friendly if you are a parent. In addition, pediatric centers are not owned by private equity but by the doctors. So you make good money as a business owner too. The work is meaningful- instead of staying in a room full of wire and people coding aimlessly for mostly useless purposes, you nurture life. If you no longer want to practice, you have a miriade of other job opportunities- research, insurance, biotech companies, FDA etc. If you get satisfaction from this, virtually all people respect doctors and are happy to have one in the neighborhood. As a doctor, you get special financing for a lot of things, including real estate. If you are a business owner, you get to structure your own profit sharing. If you work in the hospital, even PT, the hospital will pay your student loans and professional insurance. Being a doctor is way way above 99.9% of any CS jobs, in terms of intellect, prestige, and income - MIT grad here.

This has to be a joke! No pediatrician makes 300k base starting out.

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Anonymous wrote:If anybody I knew growing up was majoring in English or History, it was with an education certification added on. They were onto something!

MYY History degree got me into Harvard Law School.

Yeah, most history majors aren't getting into Harvard Law School. But *most* (not ALL) CS majors are doing pretty well right out of the gate.

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Anonymous wrote:If anybody I knew growing up was majoring in English or History, it was with an education certification added on. They were onto something!

MYY History degree got me into Harvard Law School.

Yeah, most history majors aren't getting into Harvard Law School. But *most* (not ALL) CS majors are doing pretty well right out of the gate.

To make much money with a liberal arts degree, you probably have to get some kind of graduate level degree on top of it. So, if you view undergrad as a vocational school, you probably want to confine yourself to a business or STEM degree. If you view education as something central to living a fulfilling life with value, then you can take a broader view of the matter.

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Anonymous wrote:We will have an oversupply of CS people, like we had librarians, pharmacists, and nurses in the past. The top ones, with keen business sense and strong interpersonal relationships, will make top $ and know which startup to join. The rest will end up at Accenture, writing code and building databases for some tired federal agency, and getting paid $150K/year.

Getting a $150k starting salary with only a bachelors is a huge deal.

Yup. Way better than having to do 8-10 years of med school, residency etc to get $150k in primary care or pediatrics.

You have no idea what you're saying. My DC1 is in med school. First, a pediatrician in DC area makes around 300k base salary to start. 180K is base pay first year in Podank, Nebraska and those positions are filled by foreign residents with med school outside US. People get into pediatrics because the schedule is wonderful and they don't work 40 hours/week, so it's very family friendly if you are a parent. In addition, pediatric centers are not owned by private equity but by the doctors. So you make good money as a business owner too. The work is meaningful- instead of staying in a room full of wire and people coding aimlessly for mostly useless purposes, you nurture life. If you no longer want to practice, you have a miriade of other job opportunities- research, insurance, biotech companies, FDA etc. If you get satisfaction from this, virtually all people respect doctors and are happy to have one in the neighborhood. As a doctor, you get special financing for a lot of things, including real estate. If you are a business owner, you get to structure your own profit sharing. If you work in the hospital, even PT, the hospital will pay your student loans and professional insurance. Being a doctor is way way above 99.9% of any CS jobs, in terms of intellect, prestige, and income - MIT grad here.

This has to be a joke! No pediatrician makes 300k base starting out.

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Anonymous wrote:If anybody I knew growing up was majoring in English or History, it was with an education certification added on. They were onto something!

MYY History degree got me into Harvard Law School.

Yeah, most history majors aren't getting into Harvard Law School. But *most* (not ALL) CS majors are doing pretty well right out of the gate.

To make much money with a liberal arts degree, you probably have to get some kind of graduate level degree on top of it. So, if you view undergrad as a vocational school, you probably want to confine yourself to a business or STEM degree. If you view education as something central to living a fulfilling life with value, then you can take a broader view of the matter.

Anyone taking out student loans probably should view it as a vocational school.

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Anonymous wrote:If anybody I knew growing up was majoring in English or History, it was with an education certification added on. They were onto something!

MYY History degree got me into Harvard Law School.

Yeah, most history majors aren't getting into Harvard Law School. But *most* (not ALL) CS majors are doing pretty well right out of the gate.

To make much money with a liberal arts degree, you probably have to get some kind of graduate level degree on top of it. So, if you view undergrad as a vocational school, you probably want to confine yourself to a business or STEM degree. If you view education as something central to living a fulfilling life with value, then you can take a broader view of the matter.

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Anonymous wrote:We will have an oversupply of CS people, like we had librarians, pharmacists, and nurses in the past. The top ones, with keen business sense and strong interpersonal relationships, will make top $ and know which startup to join. The rest will end up at Accenture, writing code and building databases for some tired federal agency, and getting paid $150K/year.

Getting a $150k starting salary with only a bachelors is a huge deal.

Whose getting that!?!

Starting salary at most consulting firms like Bain, McKinsey and Accenture is above $100k plus joining bonus.

One of these things is not like the other.

NP. I can confirm that the starting offers from Accenture are >$100K + joining bonus these days.

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Why such disdain for those majoring in “vocational” degrees? I majored in accounting because as someone with few means, I needed something that would get me straight into a job. I didn’t have much room for error or creativity.

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No, people who like this stuff are also majoring in this stuff. Why are law schools still full???

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There is always a good percentage of people who want to go into public service or non profits, not every student is driven by $$$$$, ideology, empathy, ingenuity, interest and creativity still drives many. Thank goodness for that.

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Anonymous wrote:DD at SLAC notices it's the wealthy and URM first-gen students. The latter not for say fine arts, but Sociology, English, etc.

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I don't understand what you are saying.

The wealthy legacy types, as well as lower income URM students, are the vast majority of the English department.

That was me as a Lit major. But not exactly multi-generational wealth, so went on to professional school. Kid is heading to a state flagship for a professional program (architecture). You'd be surprised the connections to be made at the big state schools and the lower cost makes it an even better deal.

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The top 5 majors just declared in my sophomore son’s class at his top 10 SLAC this year in order are CS, Biology, Econ, Chemistry, then English, with CS having almost two times as many majors as Bio.

People really don’t understand what a liberal arts education is.

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