| Brutal year for admissions. Brutal! Glad that my DC applied to many. |
You realize the URMs are STILL underrepresented in US colleges right now, right? By your logic, they need to do MORE, not less Your grievance with one tiny, tiny California school really doesn’t outweigh centuries of systemic racism and oppression. By the way, my (white) son goes to a difference Claremont school, and he knows literally every Black freshman student because there are so few. |
You get sympathy for that entire post except for the whiny White Fragility last line. |
| Hugs to all of the applicants who were disappointed. I was the college fair volunteer for one of these schools and hardly anyone came up to my table although a few parents did pass by and holler that the school was too impossible to get into. When it comes time for our DCs to apply, I will steer them away because I doubt legacy helps. |
Why didn’t they go to a Slac? |
I think it would have been a fantastic choice. Next one is off to a slac. Older one is managing to get the small seminars that are really valuable but it eats up to time and attention to find out what classes to.pursuexand then get into them. |
I was wondering this too. Because all the schools I know that give legacy preference, it only helps if you apply ED. |
Disappointed Williams alum here from upthread: I've been told this in the past, and the legacy kids I know that have gotten in to Williams and other similar schools generally have applied ED. But my kid wasn't ready to commit to Williams at that point, so ED wasn't a good option for him. And to be clear, I knew that he wasn't entitled to anything, and that getting in was never a sure thing. The College has its own admissions priorities, and my smallish (but until now incredibly consistent donations) were not going to move the needle. But the College has made a statement to me that I'm not terribly important to it, and that approach will likely go both ways in the future. Its disappointing, because one of the great things about Williams is the community it fosters, both while in school and throughout life. (Its always been amazing to me to see how many Williams widows (who never went to Williams) come to the 50th reunions). And while I'm not in the least bit upset at my Williams community, my relationship with the College itself has been damaged. |
I totally get what you're saying, especially when two kids were denied and who are highly qualified. |
And to be clear, its possible, I suppose, that each of my kids was subpar relative to the admitted group. If that were true, then rejecting them would be (somewhat) less hurtful from my perspective. But I really doubt that, especially given their grades, rigor, and test scores. |
The majority of these athletes are also white and from middle class or more affluent backgrounds so the college is also prioritizing that too. I point this out because plenty of white parents on this board and outside this forum often seem to suggest that URM students are getting in over their kids because of that “hook.” Look at the rosters and team photos. https://ephsports.williams.edu/ https://athletics.amherst.edu/ https://swarthmoreathletics.com/ https://haverfordathletics.com/landing/index Most look majority white. Also look at the schools and towns these students come from. Lots of affluent to very affluent suburbs and independent/boarding schools represented. If your kid is from a similar demographic but not an athlete, they may not be offered a spot because the school decided they needed to fill the team roster and while your kid was smart, accomplished and had great extracurriculars, they didn’t row, swim, golf, fence, or play LAX, fieldhockey, or soccer. If you are a nonathlete white person from a middle class or affluent background, those are probably the kids who had the hook that got them in over your son or daughter. Not the URM or first generation students. No, your kid’s squash playing, golf playing, rowing (crew), skiing, etc. classmate got in instead. I think everyone says well they worked hard on their sport. They sacrificed study time etc. Yes, that is true. But a lot of those sports (and frankly the majority of college sports) require $$$$$ to play. Equipment for many of these sports is expensive. Travel and club fees are expensive. Outside coaches and trainers are expensive. The colleges (especially many of these SLACs) value winning at sports and filling team rosters. They value that more than they value other activities that nonathlete students put a tremendous amount of time and effort into. That is the reality. They just don’t advertise it. |
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Denied - Swarthmore
Waitlist - Haverford Accepted - UVA |
St Albans was sued by college board but they still have APs - my kid is in 2 currently. And they will have them next year. |
| I’m a parent of an elementary school child empathizing with you all. Suddenly all these affluent white parents pushing their preschoolers into diving and hockey at the CC and sending kids to St. Patrick’s over more academic schools makes sense. I had no idea sports are so critical to this demo’s future college admissions! |
+1 |