Va. committee passes bill banning admissions discrimination

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Anonymous wrote:THANK YOU, REPUBLICANS!

Finally someone is standing up to the bigoted, anti-Asian racism of the “woke” democrats, and their insane ideas.

Yes, Thank you, Republicans!!

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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”

You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!

Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.

Except that you didn’t.

That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.

The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.

Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.

Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.

You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.

Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!

Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.

Yes they're unqualified. If they were qualified, they would have been able to get in before the racist change.

Admissions office has been saying for a decade that they could easily seat 3-4 full classes every year with highly qualified kids who would succeed at TJ.

Move on to your next uninformed garbage take.

Yeah, move on with your garbage logic. Maybe there could be 3-4 times of more students who can do well at TJ, but not those seats who you stole using the racist reform. They're simply UNQUALIFIED, period!

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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”

You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!

Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.

Except that you didn’t.

That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.

The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.

Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.

Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.

You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.

Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!

Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.

Yes they're unqualified. If they were qualified, they would have been able to get in before the racist change.

There are tons of qualified students who are NOT admitted. You think there are only 550 "qualified" students in the area?

"qualified" to be among the top 550 or whatever that number is. dumbass!

There could be a 1000+ students "qualified" to be at TJ. Just because some kids were more prepped than others doesn't mean they are more "qualified". It just means they were more "prepped".

Then you have your marching orders - go prep them more!

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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”

You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!

Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.

Except that you didn’t.

That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.

The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.

Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.

Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.

You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.

Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!

Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.

Yes they're unqualified. If they were qualified, they would have been able to get in before the racist change.

There are tons of qualified students who are NOT admitted. You think there are only 550 "qualified" students in the area?

"qualified" to be among the top 550 or whatever that number is. dumbass!

There could be a 1000+ students "qualified" to be at TJ. Just because some kids were more prepped than others doesn't mean they are more "qualified". It just means they were more "prepped".

nah, the burden of proof is on you to provide evidence: 1) they're more prepared and 2) they're less qualified because they're more prepped.

In 2010, there were 1,450 8th FCPS graders in Geometry Honors or above. You really think the majority of them (and similar kids from LCPS, APS, FCC, and PWC) couldn't hack it at TJ?

There are tons of "qualified" applicants. Some may rank higher in arbitrary admissions scoring than others because of planning/prepping. That does not make them any more "deserving". No one is entitled to a spot.

Right, I think majority of them couldn't.
A racist policy based "proxy discrimination" certainly doesn't make them deserving regardless of their skin color or income.

That is BS and you know it. You’re not discussing in good faith at all.

Are you a troll trying to make Asian parents look irrational and hateful?

[Anonymous]

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Admissions office has been saying for a decade that they could easily seat 3-4 full classes every year with highly qualified kids who would succeed at TJ.

Move on to your next uninformed garbage take.

The admissions office is saying this, but are the TJ teachers in agreement? Do the TJ instructors think that most kids with a 3.5+ middle school GPA, Algebra I honors, and a couple other honors classes are likely to be strong TJ students?

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Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/virginia/2022/03/va-senate-passes-bill-banning-admissions-discrimination/amp/
“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”

You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!

Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.

Except that you didn’t.

That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.

The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.

Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.

Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.

You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.

Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!

Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.

Yes they're unqualified. If they were qualified, they would have been able to get in before the racist change.

There are tons of qualified students who are NOT admitted. You think there are only 550 "qualified" students in the area?

"qualified" to be among the top 550 or whatever that number is. dumbass!

There could be a 1000+ students "qualified" to be at TJ. Just because some kids were more prepped than others doesn't mean they are more "qualified". It just means they were more "prepped".

nah, the burden of proof is on you to provide evidence: 1) they're more prepared and 2) they're less qualified because they're more prepped.

In 2010, there were 1,450 8th FCPS graders in Geometry Honors or above. You really think the majority of them (and similar kids from LCPS, APS, FCC, and PWC) couldn't hack it at TJ?

There are tons of "qualified" applicants. Some may rank higher in arbitrary admissions scoring than others because of planning/prepping. That does not make them any more "deserving". No one is entitled to a spot.

Right, I think majority of them couldn't.
A racist policy based "proxy discrimination" certainly doesn't make them deserving regardless of their skin color or income.

That is BS and you know it. You’re not discussing in good faith at all.

Are you a troll trying to make Asian parents look irrational and hateful?

No. You, not me, are making Asians look bad (if you are an Asian). You have no principle or backbone, and don’t have the guts to stand up against the bullies. It’s a shame.
Which part is irrational anyways?

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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”

You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!

Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.

Except that you didn’t.

That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.

The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.

Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.

Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.

You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.

Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!

Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.

Yes they're unqualified. If they were qualified, they would have been able to get in before the racist change.

There are tons of qualified students who are NOT admitted. You think there are only 550 "qualified" students in the area?

"qualified" to be among the top 550 or whatever that number is. dumbass!

There could be a 1000+ students "qualified" to be at TJ. Just because some kids were more prepped than others doesn't mean they are more "qualified". It just means they were more "prepped".

nah, the burden of proof is on you to provide evidence: 1) they're more prepared and 2) they're less qualified because they're more prepped.

In 2010, there were 1,450 8th FCPS graders in Geometry Honors or above. You really think the majority of them (and similar kids from LCPS, APS, FCC, and PWC) couldn't hack it at TJ?

There are tons of "qualified" applicants. Some may rank higher in arbitrary admissions scoring than others because of planning/prepping. That does not make them any more "deserving". No one is entitled to a spot.

Right, I think majority of them couldn't.
A racist policy based "proxy discrimination" certainly doesn't make them deserving regardless of their skin color or income.

That is BS and you know it. You’re not discussing in good faith at all.

Are you a troll trying to make Asian parents look irrational and hateful?

And don’t pretend liberals don’t hate Asians already, not only related to TJ reforms. You must be delusional if you think otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:

Admissions office has been saying for a decade that they could easily seat 3-4 full classes every year with highly qualified kids who would succeed at TJ.

Move on to your next uninformed garbage take.

The admissions office is saying this, but are the TJ teachers in agreement? Do the TJ instructors think that most kids with a 3.5+ middle school GPA, Algebra I honors, and a couple other honors classes are likely to be strong TJ students?

How about Geometry Honors or higher? That’s at least 1450 kids just from FCPS. Add in the other counties and you have a few classes of qualified students.

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Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/virginia/2022/03/va-senate-passes-bill-banning-admissions-discrimination/amp/
“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”

You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!

Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.

Except that you didn’t.

That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.

The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.

Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.

Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.

You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.

Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!

Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.

Yes they're unqualified. If they were qualified, they would have been able to get in before the racist change.

There are tons of qualified students who are NOT admitted. You think there are only 550 "qualified" students in the area?

"qualified" to be among the top 550 or whatever that number is. dumbass!

There could be a 1000+ students "qualified" to be at TJ. Just because some kids were more prepped than others doesn't mean they are more "qualified". It just means they were more "prepped".

nah, the burden of proof is on you to provide evidence: 1) they're more prepared and 2) they're less qualified because they're more prepped.

In 2010, there were 1,450 8th FCPS graders in Geometry Honors or above. You really think the majority of them (and similar kids from LCPS, APS, FCC, and PWC) couldn't hack it at TJ?

There are tons of "qualified" applicants. Some may rank higher in arbitrary admissions scoring than others because of planning/prepping. That does not make them any more "deserving". No one is entitled to a spot.

Right, I think majority of them couldn't.
A racist policy based "proxy discrimination" certainly doesn't make them deserving regardless of their skin color or income.

That is BS and you know it. You’re not discussing in good faith at all.

Are you a troll trying to make Asian parents look irrational and hateful?

And don’t pretend liberals don’t hate Asians already, not only related to TJ reforms. You must be delusional if you think otherwise.

WTF are you talking about? More irrational posts - out of touch from reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Admissions office has been saying for a decade that they could easily seat 3-4 full classes every year with highly qualified kids who would succeed at TJ.

Move on to your next uninformed garbage take.

The admissions office is saying this, but are the TJ teachers in agreement? Do the TJ instructors think that most kids with a 3.5+ middle school GPA, Algebra I honors, and a couple other honors classes are likely to be strong TJ students?

How about Geometry Honors or higher? That’s at least 1450 kids just from FCPS. Add in the other counties and you have a few classes of qualified students.

DP. Not all classes are taught the same given the overall water-down environment, thus the need of the TJ entrance exam.

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Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/virginia/2022/03/va-senate-passes-bill-banning-admissions-discrimination/amp/
“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”

You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!

Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.

Except that you didn’t.

That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.

The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.

Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.

Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.

GPA is a stronger indicator of success than exam scores. Every college in America knows this and it’s backed up by decades of research.

Not the watered-down GPA. And GPA is not a better indicator than the TJ entrance exam in the context of TJ admissions. You cited the research in the wrong way.

Prove it. The existing research is with me. Where is yours?

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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”

You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!

Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.

Except that you didn’t.

That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.

The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.

Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.

Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.

You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.

Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!

Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.

Yes they're unqualified. If they were qualified, they would have been able to get in before the racist change.

There are tons of qualified students who are NOT admitted. You think there are only 550 "qualified" students in the area?

"qualified" to be among the top 550 or whatever that number is. dumbass!

There could be a 1000+ students "qualified" to be at TJ. Just because some kids were more prepped than others doesn't mean they are more "qualified". It just means they were more "prepped".

nah, the burden of proof is on you to provide evidence: 1) they're more prepared and 2) they're less qualified because they're more prepped.

In 2010, there were 1,450 8th FCPS graders in Geometry Honors or above. You really think the majority of them (and similar kids from LCPS, APS, FCC, and PWC) couldn't hack it at TJ?

There are tons of "qualified" applicants. Some may rank higher in arbitrary admissions scoring than others because of planning/prepping. That does not make them any more "deserving". No one is entitled to a spot.

Right, I think majority of them couldn't.
A racist policy based "proxy discrimination" certainly doesn't make them deserving regardless of their skin color or income.

That is BS and you know it. You’re not discussing in good faith at all.

Are you a troll trying to make Asian parents look irrational and hateful?

And don’t pretend liberals don’t hate Asians already, not only related to TJ reforms. You must be delusional if you think otherwise.

WTF are you talking about? More irrational posts - out of touch from reality.

Out of touch? Is that why your cons were ruled as racists in federal court and confirmed by the VA HB that was passed by a majority including democratic senators?

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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”

You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!

Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.

Except that you didn’t.

That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.

The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.

Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.

Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.

GPA is a stronger indicator of success than exam scores. Every college in America knows this and it’s backed up by decades of research.

Not the watered-down GPA. And GPA is not a better indicator than the TJ entrance exam in the context of TJ admissions. You cited the research in the wrong way.

Prove it. The existing research is with me. Where is yours?

What does the existing research say, dumbass?

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Admissions office has been saying for a decade that they could easily seat 3-4 full classes every year with highly qualified kids who would succeed at TJ.

Move on to your next uninformed garbage take.

The admissions office is saying this, but are the TJ teachers in agreement? Do the TJ instructors think that most kids with a 3.5+ middle school GPA, Algebra I honors, and a couple other honors classes are likely to be strong TJ students?

TJ math teachers have been very public about their belief that there have been too many students who were artificially advanced in math coming from feeder schools. It’s also well known that many of these students are in additional tutoring programs to help them keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/virginia/2022/03/va-senate-passes-bill-banning-admissions-discrimination/amp/
“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”

You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!

Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.

Except that you didn’t.

That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.

The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.

Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.

Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.

You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.

Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!

Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.

Yes they're unqualified. If they were qualified, they would have been able to get in before the racist change.

There are tons of qualified students who are NOT admitted. You think there are only 550 "qualified" students in the area?

"qualified" to be among the top 550 or whatever that number is. dumbass!

There could be a 1000+ students "qualified" to be at TJ. Just because some kids were more prepped than others doesn't mean they are more "qualified". It just means they were more "prepped".

nah, the burden of proof is on you to provide evidence: 1) they're more prepared and 2) they're less qualified because they're more prepped.

In 2010, there were 1,450 8th FCPS graders in Geometry Honors or above. You really think the majority of them (and similar kids from LCPS, APS, FCC, and PWC) couldn't hack it at TJ?

There are tons of "qualified" applicants. Some may rank higher in arbitrary admissions scoring than others because of planning/prepping. That does not make them any more "deserving". No one is entitled to a spot.

Right, I think majority of them couldn't.
A racist policy based "proxy discrimination" certainly doesn't make them deserving regardless of their skin color or income.

That is BS and you know it. You’re not discussing in good faith at all.

Are you a troll trying to make Asian parents look irrational and hateful?

And don’t pretend liberals don’t hate Asians already, not only related to TJ reforms. You must be delusional if you think otherwise.

WTF are you talking about? More irrational posts - out of touch from reality.

Out of touch? Is that why your cons were ruled as racists in federal court and confirmed by the VA HB that was passed by a majority including democratic senators?

Seems some posters are incapable of making a rational post based on facts and without name calling. They are so over-the-top that they come off as trolls.