TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Through February 2022, TJ has lost 16 kids this school year. FCPS hasn't yet provided the data to break down by grade.

Through similar periods in the 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18 school years, TJ lost 4, 2, 13, and 7 kids.

So more kids than usual/average, but not necessarily a lot more given that the enrollment was expanded and more kids were admitted who may not have been quite as invested in attending TJ as in the past. Not sure you can chalk it up to academic challenges as much as other changes.

OP again.

BIG THANKS PP! It seems we finally have a definitive factual answer:

1) more pupils have withdrawn this year than in recent prior years, however:

2) the rumor I heard (which someone repeated a few pages back) is false. No where near 50 pupils have withdrawn (if you hear that rumor, kindly dispel it).


Personally, I believe the increase is rather small, and it’s not worth speculating on the cause at this point.

To me, there are bigger issues to track here: the effect of the recent court judgment, the county’s reaction, and the future admissions process. As stated previously, I’m the parent of one TJ applicant and a future applicant.

Repeating specifically to OP - drop outs are not because of who was admissions, but rather because of the pandemic. Are you ignoring that last year was a mess?

OP here.

Um - yeah. Are YOU ignoring my numerous posts, asking that we stick only to the facts, discover the facts as the actual # of dropouts, and maybe later argue about causation? Yes - yes you are ignoring them.

I have said NOTHING about the pandemic, or any other cause for this year’s increase. YOU ALONE made that part up, and you are now trying to attack me with it.

Fallacious logic there, PP. specifically: a straw man fallacy (go look it up).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Through February 2022, TJ has lost 16 kids this school year. FCPS hasn't yet provided the data to break down by grade.

Through similar periods in the 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18 school years, TJ lost 4, 2, 13, and 7 kids.

So more kids than usual/average, but not necessarily a lot more given that the enrollment was expanded and more kids were admitted who may not have been quite as invested in attending TJ as in the past. Not sure you can chalk it up to academic challenges as much as other changes.

OP again.

BIG THANKS PP! It seems we finally have a definitive factual answer:

1) more pupils have withdrawn this year than in recent prior years, however:

2) the rumor I heard (which someone repeated a few pages back) is false. No where near 50 pupils have withdrawn (if you hear that rumor, kindly dispel it).


Personally, I believe the increase is rather small, and it’s not worth speculating on the cause at this point.

To me, there are bigger issues to track here: the effect of the recent court judgment, the county’s reaction, and the future admissions process. As stated previously, I’m the parent of one TJ applicant and a future applicant.

Repeating specifically to OP - drop outs are not because of who was admissions, but rather because of the pandemic. Are you ignoring that last year was a mess?

OP here.

Um - yeah. Are YOU ignoring my numerous posts, asking that we stick only to the facts, discover the facts as the actual # of dropouts, and maybe later argue about causation? Yes - yes you are ignoring them.

I have said NOTHING about the pandemic, or any other cause for this year’s increase. YOU ALONE made that part up, and you are now trying to attack me with it.

Fallacious logic there, PP. specifically: a straw man fallacy (go look it up).

Um, your subject line is: TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

So yeah, you implied that the drop outs are because of the new admission standards. Also, seriously, calm down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Through February 2022, TJ has lost 16 kids this school year. FCPS hasn't yet provided the data to break down by grade.

Through similar periods in the 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18 school years, TJ lost 4, 2, 13, and 7 kids.

So more kids than usual/average, but not necessarily a lot more given that the enrollment was expanded and more kids were admitted who may not have been quite as invested in attending TJ as in the past. Not sure you can chalk it up to academic challenges as much as other changes.

OP again.

BIG THANKS PP! It seems we finally have a definitive factual answer:

1) more pupils have withdrawn this year than in recent prior years, however:

2) the rumor I heard (which someone repeated a few pages back) is false. No where near 50 pupils have withdrawn (if you hear that rumor, kindly dispel it).


Personally, I believe the increase is rather small, and it’s not worth speculating on the cause at this point.

To me, there are bigger issues to track here: the effect of the recent court judgment, the county’s reaction, and the future admissions process. As stated previously, I’m the parent of one TJ applicant and a future applicant.

Repeating specifically to OP - drop outs are not because of who was admissions, but rather because of the pandemic. Are you ignoring that last year was a mess?

OP here.

Um - yeah. Are YOU ignoring my numerous posts, asking that we stick only to the facts, discover the facts as the actual # of dropouts, and maybe later argue about causation? Yes - yes you are ignoring them.

I have said NOTHING about the pandemic, or any other cause for this year’s increase. YOU ALONE made that part up, and you are now trying to attack me with it.

Fallacious logic there, PP. specifically: a straw man fallacy (go look it up).

Um, your subject line is: TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

So yeah, you implied that the drop outs are because of the new admission standards. Also, seriously, calm down.

You conveniently forget that there was grade inflation and loosening of standards in general for schools so don't just mention pandemic impacted grades negatively - pandemic also resulted in easier grading as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Through February 2022, TJ has lost 16 kids this school year. FCPS hasn't yet provided the data to break down by grade.

Through similar periods in the 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18 school years, TJ lost 4, 2, 13, and 7 kids.

So more kids than usual/average, but not necessarily a lot more given that the enrollment was expanded and more kids were admitted who may not have been quite as invested in attending TJ as in the past. Not sure you can chalk it up to academic challenges as much as other changes.

OP again.

BIG THANKS PP! It seems we finally have a definitive factual answer:

1) more pupils have withdrawn this year than in recent prior years, however:

2) the rumor I heard (which someone repeated a few pages back) is false. No where near 50 pupils have withdrawn (if you hear that rumor, kindly dispel it).


Personally, I believe the increase is rather small, and it’s not worth speculating on the cause at this point.

To me, there are bigger issues to track here: the effect of the recent court judgment, the county’s reaction, and the future admissions process. As stated previously, I’m the parent of one TJ applicant and a future applicant.

Repeating specifically to OP - drop outs are not because of who was admissions, but rather because of the pandemic. Are you ignoring that last year was a mess?

OP here.

Um - yeah. Are YOU ignoring my numerous posts, asking that we stick only to the facts, discover the facts as the actual # of dropouts, and maybe later argue about causation? Yes - yes you are ignoring them.

I have said NOTHING about the pandemic, or any other cause for this year’s increase. YOU ALONE made that part up, and you are now trying to attack me with it.

Fallacious logic there, PP. specifically: a straw man fallacy (go look it up).

Um, your subject line is: TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

So yeah, you implied that the drop outs are because of the new admission standards. Also, seriously, calm down.

You conveniently forget that there was grade inflation and loosening of standards in general for schools so don't just mention pandemic impacted grades negatively - pandemic also resulted in easier grading as well.

NP. Citation?

[Anonymous]

I think class of 2025 will be spoken for a long time. Thanks to SB and the useless fcps board for creating a rushed up, haphazard, selection process in the first place so the optics look better on themselves. Cud have given some more thought and time and come up with a better plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Through February 2022, TJ has lost 16 kids this school year. FCPS hasn't yet provided the data to break down by grade.

Through similar periods in the 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18 school years, TJ lost 4, 2, 13, and 7 kids.

So more kids than usual/average, but not necessarily a lot more given that the enrollment was expanded and more kids were admitted who may not have been quite as invested in attending TJ as in the past. Not sure you can chalk it up to academic challenges as much as other changes.

OP again.

BIG THANKS PP! It seems we finally have a definitive factual answer:

1) more pupils have withdrawn this year than in recent prior years, however:

2) the rumor I heard (which someone repeated a few pages back) is false. No where near 50 pupils have withdrawn (if you hear that rumor, kindly dispel it).


Personally, I believe the increase is rather small, and it’s not worth speculating on the cause at this point.

To me, there are bigger issues to track here: the effect of the recent court judgment, the county’s reaction, and the future admissions process. As stated previously, I’m the parent of one TJ applicant and a future applicant.

Repeating specifically to OP - drop outs are not because of who was admissions, but rather because of the pandemic. Are you ignoring that last year was a mess?

OP here.

Um - yeah. Are YOU ignoring my numerous posts, asking that we stick only to the facts, discover the facts as the actual # of dropouts, and maybe later argue about causation? Yes - yes you are ignoring them.

I have said NOTHING about the pandemic, or any other cause for this year’s increase. YOU ALONE made that part up, and you are now trying to attack me with it.

Fallacious logic there, PP. specifically: a straw man fallacy (go look it up).

Um, your subject line is: TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

So yeah, you implied that the drop outs are because of the new admission standards. Also, seriously, calm down.

You conveniently forget that there was grade inflation and loosening of standards in general for schools so don't just mention pandemic impacted grades negatively - pandemic also resulted in easier grading as well.

NP. Citation?

Show me yours first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Through February 2022, TJ has lost 16 kids this school year. FCPS hasn't yet provided the data to break down by grade.

Through similar periods in the 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18 school years, TJ lost 4, 2, 13, and 7 kids.

So more kids than usual/average, but not necessarily a lot more given that the enrollment was expanded and more kids were admitted who may not have been quite as invested in attending TJ as in the past. Not sure you can chalk it up to academic challenges as much as other changes.

OP again.

BIG THANKS PP! It seems we finally have a definitive factual answer:

1) more pupils have withdrawn this year than in recent prior years, however:

2) the rumor I heard (which someone repeated a few pages back) is false. No where near 50 pupils have withdrawn (if you hear that rumor, kindly dispel it).


Personally, I believe the increase is rather small, and it’s not worth speculating on the cause at this point.

To me, there are bigger issues to track here: the effect of the recent court judgment, the county’s reaction, and the future admissions process. As stated previously, I’m the parent of one TJ applicant and a future applicant.

DP. Very measured take and I'm glad that this community was able to help with your questions.

Given that they will have had a full 8th grade year to draw from, it will be interesting to see what happens with the Class of 2026, presuming they are selected by a similar-if-not-identical process.

Just out.

Up to February of each year, here are the drop-off numbers for 9th graders at TJ:

21-22: 10!
20-21: 1
19-20: 1
18-19: 6

This is statistically speaking, significantly different from past years.

This freshman class also had a significantly higher “yield rate” of acceptances:

2025: 9 declines (550 accepted, 531 started)
2024: 33
2023: 35
2022: 24
2021: 54
2020: 24

Also, back in 17-19, there were a ton of drop outs during the school year and summer (48 net loss).

I'm not quite sure that's right - just because the Admissions Office was very public about going to the wait pool to fill spaces up to at least the beginning of the school year.

Ok. Call it “net declines”? There were far fewer this year.

Drop-off numbers might be affected by various factors.

[Anonymous]

I wonder how much pressure bonitatibus is putting in freshmen teachers to give better grades this year. They have a lot at stake to defend their admissions system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Through February 2022, TJ has lost 16 kids this school year. FCPS hasn't yet provided the data to break down by grade.

Through similar periods in the 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18 school years, TJ lost 4, 2, 13, and 7 kids.

So more kids than usual/average, but not necessarily a lot more given that the enrollment was expanded and more kids were admitted who may not have been quite as invested in attending TJ as in the past. Not sure you can chalk it up to academic challenges as much as other changes.

OP again.

BIG THANKS PP! It seems we finally have a definitive factual answer:

1) more pupils have withdrawn this year than in recent prior years, however:

2) the rumor I heard (which someone repeated a few pages back) is false. No where near 50 pupils have withdrawn (if you hear that rumor, kindly dispel it).


Personally, I believe the increase is rather small, and it’s not worth speculating on the cause at this point.

To me, there are bigger issues to track here: the effect of the recent court judgment, the county’s reaction, and the future admissions process. As stated previously, I’m the parent of one TJ applicant and a future applicant.

Repeating specifically to OP - drop outs are not because of who was admissions, but rather because of the pandemic. Are you ignoring that last year was a mess?

OP here.

Um - yeah. Are YOU ignoring my numerous posts, asking that we stick only to the facts, discover the facts as the actual # of dropouts, and maybe later argue about causation? Yes - yes you are ignoring them.

I have said NOTHING about the pandemic, or any other cause for this year’s increase. YOU ALONE made that part up, and you are now trying to attack me with it.

Fallacious logic there, PP. specifically: a straw man fallacy (go look it up).

Um, your subject line is: TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

So yeah, you implied that the drop outs are because of the new admission standards. Also, seriously, calm down.

Bitter people really want the class of 2025 to fail. Sad. Very sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Through February 2022, TJ has lost 16 kids this school year. FCPS hasn't yet provided the data to break down by grade.

Through similar periods in the 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18 school years, TJ lost 4, 2, 13, and 7 kids.

So more kids than usual/average, but not necessarily a lot more given that the enrollment was expanded and more kids were admitted who may not have been quite as invested in attending TJ as in the past. Not sure you can chalk it up to academic challenges as much as other changes.

OP again.

BIG THANKS PP! It seems we finally have a definitive factual answer:

1) more pupils have withdrawn this year than in recent prior years, however:

2) the rumor I heard (which someone repeated a few pages back) is false. No where near 50 pupils have withdrawn (if you hear that rumor, kindly dispel it).


Personally, I believe the increase is rather small, and it’s not worth speculating on the cause at this point.

To me, there are bigger issues to track here: the effect of the recent court judgment, the county’s reaction, and the future admissions process. As stated previously, I’m the parent of one TJ applicant and a future applicant.

Repeating specifically to OP - drop outs are not because of who was admissions, but rather because of the pandemic. Are you ignoring that last year was a mess?

OP here.

Um - yeah. Are YOU ignoring my numerous posts, asking that we stick only to the facts, discover the facts as the actual # of dropouts, and maybe later argue about causation? Yes - yes you are ignoring them.

I have said NOTHING about the pandemic, or any other cause for this year’s increase. YOU ALONE made that part up, and you are now trying to attack me with it.

Fallacious logic there, PP. specifically: a straw man fallacy (go look it up).

Um, your subject line is: TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

So yeah, you implied that the drop outs are because of the new admission standards. Also, seriously, calm down.

Bitter people really want the class of 2025 to fail. Sad. Very sad.

Because they are entitled, racist POSs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how much pressure bonitatibus is putting in freshmen teachers to give better grades this year. They have a lot at stake to defend their admissions system.

She should resign in disgrace immediately. What a mess she has been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how much pressure bonitatibus is putting in freshmen teachers to give better grades this year. They have a lot at stake to defend their admissions system.

She should resign in disgrace immediately. What a mess she has been.

She’s fine. She should ignore POS whiners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Through February 2022, TJ has lost 16 kids this school year. FCPS hasn't yet provided the data to break down by grade.

Through similar periods in the 2020-21, 2019-20, 2018-19, and 2017-18 school years, TJ lost 4, 2, 13, and 7 kids.

So more kids than usual/average, but not necessarily a lot more given that the enrollment was expanded and more kids were admitted who may not have been quite as invested in attending TJ as in the past. Not sure you can chalk it up to academic challenges as much as other changes.

OP again.

BIG THANKS PP! It seems we finally have a definitive factual answer:

1) more pupils have withdrawn this year than in recent prior years, however:

2) the rumor I heard (which someone repeated a few pages back) is false. No where near 50 pupils have withdrawn (if you hear that rumor, kindly dispel it).


Personally, I believe the increase is rather small, and it’s not worth speculating on the cause at this point.

To me, there are bigger issues to track here: the effect of the recent court judgment, the county’s reaction, and the future admissions process. As stated previously, I’m the parent of one TJ applicant and a future applicant.

Repeating specifically to OP - drop outs are not because of who was admissions, but rather because of the pandemic. Are you ignoring that last year was a mess?

OP here.

Um - yeah. Are YOU ignoring my numerous posts, asking that we stick only to the facts, discover the facts as the actual # of dropouts, and maybe later argue about causation? Yes - yes you are ignoring them.

I have said NOTHING about the pandemic, or any other cause for this year’s increase. YOU ALONE made that part up, and you are now trying to attack me with it.

Fallacious logic there, PP. specifically: a straw man fallacy (go look it up).

Um, your subject line is: TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

So yeah, you implied that the drop outs are because of the new admission standards. Also, seriously, calm down.

Bitter people really want the class of 2025 to fail. Sad. Very sad.

Because they are entitled, racist POSs.

No, we want everybody to get their trophies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how much pressure bonitatibus is putting in freshmen teachers to give better grades this year. They have a lot at stake to defend their admissions system.

Savvy but disgusting post. Yet another non-falsifiable piece of nonsense intended to provide the jerks who want these kids to fail an out when they end up being a perfectly normal class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how much pressure bonitatibus is putting in freshmen teachers to give better grades this year. They have a lot at stake to defend their admissions system.

Savvy but disgusting post. Yet another non-falsifiable piece of nonsense intended to provide the jerks who want these kids to fail an out when they end up being a perfectly normal class.

I guess you pretend to care about TJ students yet don't mind that piece of work attacking Asian students.