New BOE candidate!!

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Our mail just arrived, including Apple Ballot endorsements.

Julie Yang has their endorsement, rather than Scott Joftus. This is a real surprise to me. I had planned on supporting her, but maybe I should look more at Joftus? Anyone have more knowledge on why she's the Apple choice?


Because she's a former teacher and college/career counselor in MCPS.


What has Joftus done (or not done) as a current BOE member that Apple Ballot is in full support of an opponent? I know he hasn't been on BOE very long, but it sounds like he didn't align with the Union's preference somewhere...


Where have you been? You need to look up the old threads on how covid money was spent and his personal connection (search "Kid Museum").
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/50/1018735.page

I was voting for Fryar, but now that this new guy is in the ring, I'm waiting to see who the Apple Ballot endorses. MCEA is still licking their wounds over two no-confidence votes that got the hand, but I'm hoping they learned their lesson enough to stop supporting nutcases and picked mainstream folks this time around. The reason why I'm voting Apple Ballot to get as many votes as possible to swing the board over. The problem is that Silver Spring controls most of the county voting since Montgomery County residents can vote for any other Districts reps.

The current Apple Ballot is here:
https://www.mceanea.org/political-action-community-engagement-pace/apple-ballot/

Grace Rivera-Oven, District 1
Julie Yang, District 3
Valerie Coll, District 5


Assuming that the Union is picking people mainstream folks is a really big assumption you've made.

I don't follow you comment how Silver Spring controls most of the county. Aren't all Mont County residents able to vote for all seats / districts for BOE?

I didn't follow much about BOE this school year because my youngest DC is a senior and I am SO DONE with the drama known as Montgomery County Public Schools. However, I know the current (and past) BOE members have basically sucked and I'm happy to vote them out.




I had read somewhere that Silver Spring had the greatest number of voter turnout and never understood why until I did a little research.

Voting is on 7/19/2022, but Early Voting starts on the 7th.

The interesting thing is where the 14 early voting centers are:
Silver Spring (3 locations)
Wheaton
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Rockville (3 locations, but one is actually N. Potomac and another, the Bauer Drive Community Center, is difficult to access, imho)
Germantown
Gaithersburg
-----
Chevy Chase
Potomac
-----
Burtonsville
Sandy Spring
-----
Damascus
https://www.elections.maryland.gov/elections/2022/2022_Early%20Voting_Centers.pdf

Montgomery County has about 1M people in it and this is how almost 60% of the population is distributed. I marked the number of voting centers next to the cities with asterisks:
1 Germantown 90K *
2 Silver Spring 78K ***
3 Gaithersburg 66K *
4 Rockville 65K ***
5 Bethesda 62K
6 Aspen Hill 52K
7 N Bethesda 50K
8 Wheaton 50K *
9 Potomac 45K *
10 Olney 35K
https://statisticalatlas.com/county/Maryland/Montgomery-County/Population

Only 10 of the 14 early voting centers are located in populated cities, and of those, 4 of 10 are clustered by Silver Spring / Wheaton and 5 of 10 in Rockville/Gaithersburg/Germantown (with a caveat that 2/3 of the "Rockville" locations aren't really Rockville or in that populated of an area?).

You're correct that all Montgomery County residents are able to vote for all Montgomery County seats / districts for BOE. This also means that it's "mob rule / winner-takes-all". If you campaign heavily in populated areas with available early voting centers (*cough* Silver Spring *cough*), you've got a better chance of winning.

I'm voting pure Apple Ballot to get the incumbents out and just waiting on their at-large pick (but if they don't pick one I'm going with Fryar).
Anonymous
^^ and this also tends to explain the HS magnet location in Silver Spring.
Anonymous
I feel like there's one or two boosters posting again and again for this guy. I haven't checked him out, but something doesn't add up about all the unified hate for some and rah rah for him from "several" posters.
Anonymous
That "Statistical Atlas" site maps Silver Spring as only being the area inside the beltway, so the population figures are much too low. In reality, areas called Silver Spring extend far north, all the way up near the Olney and Burtonsville areas.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We need fresh faces on BOE so there is some accountability at MCPS. I am so sick of the incumbents rubber stamping everything mcps does. Anyone who mcea supports will not have my vote. Anyone who delayed school reopening will not have my vote.


+1. basically whoever apple ballot supports, i do not support. so no incumbents. unbelievable they sat there complicit while teachers refused to work, and so low paid workers were the ones sitting with students, and that was ok?? mcps closed to in-person learning for the entire school year unnecessarily, hurting the most vulnerable. so i've already submitted my absentee votes for

fryer
guan
alzona, and
iannaco-hahn


Lol-teachers refused to work? Riiiiiight. You're obviously an ignorant nutjob and thanks for telling me who not to vote for (Not surprised a lunatic chose lunatics.)
Anonymous
Silver spring is planning a coup to take over?
Anonymous
Silver Spring is (a) unincorporated and (b) geographically ginormous. And that's before we get into any demographic analyses. Heck, one of the SS voting centers is at Leisure World - not exactly a hotbed of school parent agitators!

A proper comparison would balance - just to get started - population density (per sq mile, not just people in jurisdictions), job flexibility, and auto ownership. Well, unless your goal is to make it hard for certain types of people to vote. Maybe make it illegal to give a bottle of water to someone waiting in line on a hot day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Silver Spring is (a) unincorporated and (b) geographically ginormous. And that's before we get into any demographic analyses. Heck, one of the SS voting centers is at Leisure World - not exactly a hotbed of school parent agitators!

A proper comparison would balance - just to get started - population density (per sq mile, not just people in jurisdictions), job flexibility, and auto ownership. Well, unless your goal is to make it hard for certain types of people to vote. Maybe make it illegal to give a bottle of water to someone waiting in line on a hot day.


You may not know this but voter suppression is a big part of the GOP's game plan along with putting our children in a war zone so they can get kick backs from gun manufacturers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need fresh faces on BOE so there is some accountability at MCPS. I am so sick of the incumbents rubber stamping everything mcps does. Anyone who mcea supports will not have my vote. Anyone who delayed school reopening will not have my vote.


+1. basically whoever apple ballot supports, i do not support. so no incumbents. unbelievable they sat there complicit while teachers refused to work, and so low paid workers were the ones sitting with students, and that was ok?? mcps closed to in-person learning for the entire school year unnecessarily, hurting the most vulnerable. so i've already submitted my absentee votes for

fryer
guan
alzona, and
iannaco-hahn


Lol-teachers refused to work? Riiiiiight. You're obviously an ignorant nutjob and thanks for telling me who not to vote for (Not surprised a lunatic chose lunatics.)


Agree, if you think MCPS is bad now, just wait and see what those kooks would do if they were elected.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Silver spring is planning a coup to take over?


Yes, it's a conspiracy!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need fresh faces on BOE so there is some accountability at MCPS. I am so sick of the incumbents rubber stamping everything mcps does. Anyone who mcea supports will not have my vote. Anyone who delayed school reopening will not have my vote.


+1. basically whoever apple ballot supports, i do not support. so no incumbents. unbelievable they sat there complicit while teachers refused to work, and so low paid workers were the ones sitting with students, and that was ok?? mcps closed to in-person learning for the entire school year unnecessarily, hurting the most vulnerable. so i've already submitted my absentee votes for

fryer
guan
alzona, and
iannaco-hahn


Lol-teachers refused to work? Riiiiiight. You're obviously an ignorant nutjob and thanks for telling me who not to vote for (Not surprised a lunatic chose lunatics.)


Agree, if you think MCPS is bad now, just wait and see what those kooks would do if they were elected.


Wow. Fryar must have realized his Twitter account revealed what a kook he really is- picking fights and blocking people, liking notorious MAGA people’s posts— he just deleted his account! Just in time for voters to be looking into the candidates in earnest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our mail just arrived, including Apple Ballot endorsements.

Julie Yang has their endorsement, rather than Scott Joftus. This is a real surprise to me. I had planned on supporting her, but maybe I should look more at Joftus? Anyone have more knowledge on why she's the Apple choice?


Because she's a former teacher and college/career counselor in MCPS.


What has Joftus done (or not done) as a current BOE member that Apple Ballot is in full support of an opponent? I know he hasn't been on BOE very long, but it sounds like he didn't align with the Union's preference somewhere...


Where have you been? You need to look up the old threads on how covid money was spent and his personal connection (search "Kid Museum").
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/50/1018735.page

I was voting for Fryar, but now that this new guy is in the ring, I'm waiting to see who the Apple Ballot endorses. MCEA is still licking their wounds over two no-confidence votes that got the hand, but I'm hoping they learned their lesson enough to stop supporting nutcases and picked mainstream folks this time around. The reason why I'm voting Apple Ballot to get as many votes as possible to swing the board over. The problem is that Silver Spring controls most of the county voting since Montgomery County residents can vote for any other Districts reps.

The current Apple Ballot is here:
https://www.mceanea.org/political-action-community-engagement-pace/apple-ballot/

Grace Rivera-Oven, District 1
Julie Yang, District 3
Valerie Coll, District 5


Assuming that the Union is picking people mainstream folks is a really big assumption you've made.

I don't follow you comment how Silver Spring controls most of the county. Aren't all Mont County residents able to vote for all seats / districts for BOE?

I didn't follow much about BOE this school year because my youngest DC is a senior and I am SO DONE with the drama known as Montgomery County Public Schools. However, I know the current (and past) BOE members have basically sucked and I'm happy to vote them out.




I had read somewhere that Silver Spring had the greatest number of voter turnout and never understood why until I did a little research.

Voting is on 7/19/2022, but Early Voting starts on the 7th.

The interesting thing is where the 14 early voting centers are:
Silver Spring (3 locations)
Wheaton
-----
Rockville (3 locations, but one is actually N. Potomac and another, the Bauer Drive Community Center, is difficult to access, imho)
Germantown
Gaithersburg
-----
Chevy Chase
Potomac
-----
Burtonsville
Sandy Spring
-----
Damascus
https://www.elections.maryland.gov/elections/2022/2022_Early%20Voting_Centers.pdf

Montgomery County has about 1M people in it and this is how almost 60% of the population is distributed. I marked the number of voting centers next to the cities with asterisks:
1 Germantown 90K *
2 Silver Spring 78K ***
3 Gaithersburg 66K *
4 Rockville 65K ***
5 Bethesda 62K
6 Aspen Hill 52K
7 N Bethesda 50K
8 Wheaton 50K *
9 Potomac 45K *
10 Olney 35K
https://statisticalatlas.com/county/Maryland/Montgomery-County/Population

Only 10 of the 14 early voting centers are located in populated cities, and of those, 4 of 10 are clustered by Silver Spring / Wheaton and 5 of 10 in Rockville/Gaithersburg/Germantown (with a caveat that 2/3 of the "Rockville" locations aren't really Rockville or in that populated of an area?).

You're correct that all Montgomery County residents are able to vote for all Montgomery County seats / districts for BOE. This also means that it's "mob rule / winner-takes-all". If you campaign heavily in populated areas with available early voting centers (*cough* Silver Spring *cough*), you've got a better chance of winning.

I'm voting pure Apple Ballot to get the incumbents out and just waiting on their at-large pick (but if they don't pick one I'm going with Fryar).


Thanks for your comments.

I live in the City of Rockville and will be voting by Mail and will toss my ballot in a box in Gaithersburg that I used in 2022. DH will either request a Vote by Mail ballot or go to Bohrer Park for Early Voting (still making up his mind)... or he'll just vote on the Primary day. (The Gaithersburg location isn't inconvenient and has better parking.) You're right that Silver Spring has more Early Voting locations. I had thought that was due to County Council (or whoever sets them up) wanting to give the most access to people without access to cars.

I'm still not convinced of the Apple candidates. Docca isn't running in District 1, so there isn't any incumbent for them to endorse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need fresh faces on BOE so there is some accountability at MCPS. I am so sick of the incumbents rubber stamping everything mcps does. Anyone who mcea supports will not have my vote. Anyone who delayed school reopening will not have my vote.


+1. basically whoever apple ballot supports, i do not support. so no incumbents. unbelievable they sat there complicit while teachers refused to work, and so low paid workers were the ones sitting with students, and that was ok?? mcps closed to in-person learning for the entire school year unnecessarily, hurting the most vulnerable. so i've already submitted my absentee votes for

fryer
guan
alzona, and
iannaco-hahn


WARNING: this person is a troll trying to throw off voters. Ignore this post.


No worries. Parents don’t vote. They never control elections.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Silver spring is planning a coup to take over?


Yes, it's a conspiracy!!


I know and Potomac is so jealous!
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