My kid isn't getting in

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is a joke or not. From accepted ivy thread:

3.4 GPA
29 ACT
1 AP Class
No EC
Legacy URM

URM it maybe true

+1

Maybe but it’s most likely a disgruntled mom of a high stats kid.

Literally nobody has no ECs

Doubtful it’s URM. Thinking disgruntled parent as well who thinks a URM is taking their child’s place. We’re URM with high GPA, high ACT several EC including national awards and sports and we’re also being shut out of top schools. It’s not enough to be URM unless it includes sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are not alone. I wish DD who is also 1500, 4.4 and has math and science APs had concentrated on the state schools and tried to get merit. Results so far --UVA, no. Defers at Georgetown and Richmond. Yes from MD, Pitt, and Penn State. All good schools. Something will work out. I wish we had gone the Alabama, SC, etc. route. Hang in there.

A defer from Richmond??

Wow. That's rough. Maybe that's an example of the school not thinking your DD will really show up there.

My DS got into Richmond with 32 ACT and 3.76uw, 4.4w. But no merit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know it doesn't help with DS's experience of rejection, but here's an additional perspective. I have been teaching at UMD in recent years after having gone to a top SLAC and taught at an Ivy and a top UC and I am SO IMPRESSED with the kids at UMD. Everything about the experience of teaching there has been a pleasant surprise to me. The faculty will be delighted to have him in class and he will be plenty stimulated by his peers.

If you see this: Are you in your 40s to 60s?

If so: In the real world, does it seem as if the incoming students at the top UC and UMD are a lot better than the incoming students would have been at those places in the 1980s; a little better; worse; or roughly the same?

In other words: When we see that Super Duper School X has a 5% admissions rate, and even UMD is getting to be snooty, is that mostly a mirage, because the kids are using the internet to apply to more schools; mainly because the current cohorts are, say, 40% bigger, due to the Echo Boom and an increase in the number of international students; or mainly due to the fact that there are really a lot more spectacularly brilliant, accomplished students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are not alone. I wish DD who is also 1500, 4.4 and has math and science APs had concentrated on the state schools and tried to get merit. Results so far --UVA, no. Defers at Georgetown and Richmond. Yes from MD, Pitt, and Penn State. All good schools. Something will work out. I wish we had gone the Alabama, SC, etc. route. Hang in there.

A defer from Richmond??

Wow. That's rough. Maybe that's an example of the school not thinking your DD will really show up there.

My DS got into Richmond with 32 ACT and 3.76uw, 4.4w. But no merit.

I am the poster who mentioned deferral from Richmond. I don't think it's yield protection type situation. I don't think they have time for that. I don't know if she stands out. They probably have hundreds with similar stats just like her to choose from. I didn't read her essays, she managed all of that herself. So I don't know. She has some great options. She is hoping for VT. We will see.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s tough. I’m very sorry. My son was a very average kid, academically. It made it easier in a way. Applied to 12 schools, 10 were state flagships. He got into 10/12 schools and felt really good about himself for the first time in a long time (with respect to school). He attended a large state flagship and is doing very well in college.
My daughter is more of a 90 percentile kid. We will be steering her to similar schools as her brother, however, for a multitude of reasons including taking the damn pressure off a bit that is so woven into living in this area.

As I’m sure I’ll be asked, his schools:

Admitted (29 ACT and 3.4 GPA)
U of SC
Penn State (summer program)
Clemson (summer program)
Alabama
Auburn
Indiana
Ole Miss
UC Boulder
Pitt
TCU

Not admitted: Ohio State and U of GA [/quote

Great list of schools! Is he private or public HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s tough. I’m very sorry. My son was a very average kid, academically. It made it easier in a way. Applied to 12 schools, 10 were state flagships. He got into 10/12 schools and felt really good about himself for the first time in a long time (with respect to school). He attended a large state flagship and is doing very well in college.
My daughter is more of a 90 percentile kid. We will be steering her to similar schools as her brother, however, for a multitude of reasons including taking the damn pressure off a bit that is so woven into living in this area.

As I’m sure I’ll be asked, his schools:

Admitted (29 ACT and 3.4 GPA)
U of SC
Penn State (summer program)
Clemson (summer program)
Alabama
Auburn
Indiana
Ole Miss
UC Boulder
Pitt
TCU

Not admitted: Ohio State and U of GA [/quote

Great list of schools! Is he private or public HS?

Private. But not sure that mattered?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not being full pay is huge. I wish Naviance separated kids into full pay or not.

What does this mean? How would the UCs know if you are full pay or not, for example. Or for that matter you could be full pay at UVA. The common app does not have any way to indicate and everyone does FAFsA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not being full pay is huge. I wish Naviance separated kids into full pay or not.

What does this mean? How would the UCs know if you are full pay or not, for example. Or for that matter you could be full pay at UVA. The common app does not have any way to indicate and everyone does FAFsA

The Common App asks if you are applying for need based aid. And not everyone fills out the FAFSA. We didn’t. We knew we wouldn’t get aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are not alone. I wish DD who is also 1500, 4.4 and has math and science APs had concentrated on the state schools and tried to get merit. Results so far --UVA, no. Defers at Georgetown and Richmond. Yes from MD, Pitt, and Penn State. All good schools. Something will work out. I wish we had gone the Alabama, SC, etc. route. Hang in there.

A defer from Richmond??

Wow. That's rough. Maybe that's an example of the school not thinking your DD will really show up there.

My DS got into Richmond with 32 ACT and 3.76uw, 4.4w. But no merit.

I am the poster who mentioned deferral from Richmond. I don't think it's yield protection type situation. I don't think they have time for that. I don't know if she stands out. They probably have hundreds with similar stats just like her to choose from. I didn't read her essays, she managed all of that herself. So I don't know. She has some great options. She is hoping for VT. We will see.

Is Richmond considered better than VCU Honors for say pre-med bio track (not BS MD at VCU which is obviously highly competitive)

[Anonymous]

I feel for him, OP—that stinks. His stats are great and clearly he’s worked really hard. Yes, UMD is a great school but it would be nice for him to see some more acceptances if only to help validate what a great job he’s really done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s tough. I’m very sorry. My son was a very average kid, academically. It made it easier in a way. Applied to 12 schools, 10 were state flagships. He got into 10/12 schools and felt really good about himself for the first time in a long time (with respect to school). He attended a large state flagship and is doing very well in college.
My daughter is more of a 90 percentile kid. We will be steering her to similar schools as her brother, however, for a multitude of reasons including taking the damn pressure off a bit that is so woven into living in this area.

As I’m sure I’ll be asked, his schools:

Admitted (29 ACT and 3.4 GPA)
U of SC
Penn State (summer program)
Clemson (summer program)
Alabama
Auburn
Indiana
Ole Miss
UC Boulder
Pitt
TCU

Not admitted: Ohio State and U of GA [/quote

Great list of schools! Is he private or public HS?

Private. But not sure that mattered?

It does. My private school child (3.8 UW) has been deferred/waitlisted at a few of the same schools your child was accepted and Public school friend with equal stats admitted. Both were test optional. Mine has more ECs, leadership and volunteer. It will all work out…. I think but very confused but the process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s tough. I’m very sorry. My son was a very average kid, academically. It made it easier in a way. Applied to 12 schools, 10 were state flagships. He got into 10/12 schools and felt really good about himself for the first time in a long time (with respect to school). He attended a large state flagship and is doing very well in college.
My daughter is more of a 90 percentile kid. We will be steering her to similar schools as her brother, however, for a multitude of reasons including taking the damn pressure off a bit that is so woven into living in this area.

As I’m sure I’ll be asked, his schools:

Admitted (29 ACT and 3.4 GPA)
U of SC
Penn State (summer program)
Clemson (summer program)
Alabama
Auburn
Indiana
Ole Miss
UC Boulder
Pitt
TCU

Not admitted: Ohio State and U of GA

That’s awesome, PP. Good for him. Just out of curiosity, where did he decide to go?

I feel for OP’s son. I have a 10th grader who I think is going to be similar and I don’t think a big school would be a good fit so it’s going to be interesting. I commented on a few other recent threads that I feel like the kids in the top but not tippy top are then looking wt the same schools as kids with much lower stats. This PP here is a good example. Her son is in at a lot of schools that people are saying are the kind of ones OP’s kid and similar kids should be planning on, and they aren’t bad schools, but why are the kids working so hard for their 4.4 and their 11 APs if they can get in w/o and a 3.4???

To work on getting a great high school education?

You don't need 11 APs for a great HS education. Honestly, after seeing how this plays out and the fact that my junior DD would be really happy at several less competitive LACs that would meet our budget, I've really been encouraging her to put more balance in her schedule. Insisted on only 3 APs in junior year and I'd like her to stick with that senior year. It's plenty. She has ADHD and works like crazy with this schedule.

That's true. You don't need SAT 1550+, 10+ APs, countless EC hours to get into UVA or UMD.

Don’t you though? For uva?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I say no choices I mean- his only choice is CP. It will certainly get the job done. But he is left feeling like a failure and a loser going to the only school he got into instead of someone who was wanted by multiple schools and got to pick his best fit (which would probably still be CP). It would make his 4 years in CP much better knowing it was a choice to be there.

You could go to College Park, do well and then transfer to another college. Transfers have an easier time to get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is a joke or not. From accepted ivy thread:

3.4 GPA
29 ACT
1 AP Class
No EC
Legacy URM

URM it maybe true

+1

Maybe but it’s most likely a disgruntled mom of a high stats kid.

Same for us. URM and deferred
Literally nobody has no ECs

Doubtful it’s URM. Thinking disgruntled parent as well who thinks a URM is taking their child’s place. We’re URM with high GPA, high ACT several EC including national awards and sports and we’re also being shut out of top schools. It’s not enough to be URM unless it includes sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is a joke or not. From accepted ivy thread:

3.4 GPA
29 ACT
1 AP Class
No EC
Legacy URM

URM it maybe true

+1

Maybe but it’s most likely a disgruntled mom of a high stats kid.

Literally nobody has no ECs

Doubtful it’s URM. Thinking disgruntled parent as well who thinks a URM is taking their child’s place. We’re URM with high GPA, high ACT several EC including national awards and sports and we’re also being shut out of top schools. It’s not enough to be URM unless it includes sports.

SAT 1520
GPA 4.8
Elected leadership in the school
Great research project
Captain of her sport team
Great recommendations
URM &
Rejected from Tulane