Masks optional by spring break

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone unmask before covid pills / treatments are available?

Just keep moving goalposts

What is “moving goalposts” to some is “adapting to shifting conditions” to others.

At what point do we decide that mass masking of children isn't necessary mitigation strategy?

Duh when it’s not a pandemic.

So first it was when the teachers could get vaccinated then it was when the kids could get vaccine now it's just "when it's not a pandemic"
Like when is this going to be over?! I'm over this shit.

It was always "when it's not a pandemic."
But, apparently it was never a pandemic for you and it will never be.
Unfortunately, stupidity is unbeatable. Selfishness does not help too.

You know it's really easy for people like you who never actually have to wear a mask except for like 5 minutes at the grocery store or no way you probably just use instacart some of us actually have to wear masks all day long and do real jobs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone unmask before covid pills / treatments are available?

Just keep moving goalposts

What is “moving goalposts” to some is “adapting to shifting conditions” to others.

At what point do we decide that mass masking of children isn't necessary mitigation strategy?

Duh when it’s not a pandemic.

So first it was when the teachers could get vaccinated then it was when the kids could get vaccine now it's just "when it's not a pandemic"
Like when is this going to be over?! I'm over this shit.

It was always "when it's not a pandemic."
But, apparently it was never a pandemic for you and it will never be.
Unfortunately, stupidity is unbeatable. Selfishness does not help too.

You know it's really easy for people like you who never actually have to wear a mask except for like 5 minutes at the grocery store or no way you probably just use instacart some of us actually have to wear masks all day long and do real jobs

Aww...are you okay? You have to wear a mask while doing your job? The horror! Welcome to being a member of society.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate the masks for little kids. Why are we doing this to them when they don’t even get that sick? It’s crazy.

Because we're trying to balance the needs of the individual to the needs of the community.

Masking a six-year old does very little for the ‘needs of the community’.

What happens if that six year old is allowed to take off her mask? It’s not the end of the world. Teachers are vaccinated. They can be boosted. They can wear masks if they choose. Other students can wear their masks.

Vaccines help at best with symptoms. They no longer stop covid. So, it is a big deal given you can get covid multiple times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is a reasonable goal given our vaccination rates, decline of omicron, success of mask optional schools in neighboring Virginia, announcement from the archdiocese of Arlington… there is so much data to support this too.

What do you think?

You're on every thread for every school district. Wacko.

I don’t care about other school districts. I live in MoCo. But seeing what’s happening in VA makes me excited. Let’s goooooo, MCPS! Normalcy for kids is long overdue!!

It's so funny that its only the PARENTS who cant handle masks. The kids are just fine. It's the adults who long for "normalcy" (whatever that even means), because they are the ones who cant adapt to change. Ridiculous.

The kids are not fine. You also said the kids were fine and thriving with virtual learning and you were wrong about that as well. There will be long term implications especially for the young ones.

Kids are fine in masks. You are not ok with them in masks. Get your mental health checked.

Lots of kids are fine in virtual learning. But, it often takes parental support, which you aren't willing to do.

The long term implications of covid are far more serious than masking.

You should try subbing in a school for one day and count how many times you have to remind kids to pull the mask over their nose.

Usually its bad fit and that's on the parents to buy better fitting masks.

[Anonymous]

Basically at this point I think the vast majority of us can ignore anyone who says,

We MUST MASK in schools no matter what!

OR

We MUST NOT MASK in schools no matter what!

It's pretty obvious that this needs to be a balancing act that takes the needs of the community and individual needs into consideration. Vaccination and booster rates, rates of community spread, transmissibility and other public health metrics can be weighed together with the results of continually emerging research on the benefits, efficacy, costs, risks, and pitfalls of masking -- not to mention other situational and contextual factors (e.g. indoors or outdoors, small or large groups, etc etc.)

Personally I would wait until this surge passes, and then -- in the absence of new information -- immediately remove outdoor masking requirements for all students and masking requirements for kids under the age of 6. I'd very likely make masking optional in elementary schools -- it sounds like lots of folks would keep masking and that's great -- but keep them mandatory in high schools where masking is likely more effective and carries lower social costs.

But basically if you are taking an all or nothing approach at this point, the vast majority of us are ignoring you. Covid is here to stay -- and community masking has more than a non-zero effect on transmission rates -- so the policy response has to be measured and moderate -- not ALL THE TIME or NEVER.

Obviously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate the masks for little kids. Why are we doing this to them when they don’t even get that sick? It’s crazy.

Key word: YOU hate the masks. The little kids are fine. Stop trying to make this about you. You can't adapt. They can. They HAVE.

YOU will need to adapt when all our kids unmask this spring. There...see how that feels lol.

But you’ll be homeschooling to achieve this so what do I have to adapt to?

Nope...you will cause you are unreasonably afraid of what is now essentially a "cold."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate the masks for little kids. Why are we doing this to them when they don’t even get that sick? It’s crazy.

Because we're trying to balance the needs of the individual to the needs of the community.

Masking a six-year old does very little for the ‘needs of the community’.

What happens if that six year old is allowed to take off her mask? It’s not the end of the world. Teachers are vaccinated. They can be boosted. They can wear masks if they choose. Other students can wear their masks.

Vaccines help at best with symptoms. They no longer stop covid. So, it is a big deal given you can get covid multiple times.

Then why are we requiring vaccines for MCPS athletes. The health officials think they are helpful. Let’s drop the vaccine requirement for athletes, please. And let’s not even discuss requiring boosters before next year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone unmask before covid pills / treatments are available?

Just keep moving goalposts

What is “moving goalposts” to some is “adapting to shifting conditions” to others.

At what point do we decide that mass masking of children isn't necessary mitigation strategy?

Duh when it’s not a pandemic.

So first it was when the teachers could get vaccinated then it was when the kids could get vaccine now it's just "when it's not a pandemic"
Like when is this going to be over?! I'm over this shit.

It was always "when it's not a pandemic."
But, apparently it was never a pandemic for you and it will never be.
Unfortunately, stupidity is unbeatable. Selfishness does not help too.

You know it's really easy for people like you who never actually have to wear a mask except for like 5 minutes at the grocery store or no way you probably just use instacart some of us actually have to wear masks all day long and do real jobs [/quote]

That about sums this thread up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate the masks for little kids. Why are we doing this to them when they don’t even get that sick? It’s crazy.

Key word: YOU hate the masks. The little kids are fine. Stop trying to make this about you. You can't adapt. They can. They HAVE.

YOU will need to adapt when all our kids unmask this spring. There...see how that feels lol.

But you’ll be homeschooling to achieve this so what do I have to adapt to?

Nope...you will cause you are unreasonably afraid of what is now essentially a "cold."

New definition of "cold" is something that causes long term disability and death in large numbers. You can call it whatever you want, the data on this pandemic is clear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Basically at this point I think the vast majority of us can ignore anyone who says,

We MUST MASK in schools no matter what!

OR

We MUST NOT MASK in schools no matter what!

It's pretty obvious that this needs to be a balancing act that takes the needs of the community and individual needs into consideration. Vaccination and booster rates, rates of community spread, transmissibility and other public health metrics can be weighed together with the results of continually emerging research on the benefits, efficacy, costs, risks, and pitfalls of masking -- not to mention other situational and contextual factors (e.g. indoors or outdoors, small or large groups, etc etc.)

Personally I would wait until this surge passes, and then -- in the absence of new information -- immediately remove outdoor masking requirements for all students and masking requirements for kids under the age of 6. I'd very likely make masking optional in elementary schools -- it sounds like lots of folks would keep masking and that's great -- but keep them mandatory in high schools where masking is likely more effective and carries lower social costs.

But basically if you are taking an all or nothing approach at this point, the vast majority of us are ignoring you. Covid is here to stay -- and community masking has more than a non-zero effect on transmission rates -- so the policy response has to be measured and moderate -- not ALL THE TIME or NEVER.

Obviously.

I agree with you, but I will point out that the policy is currently an ‘all or nothing’ response. Masks for all kids, over the age of 2, all the time. Some schools are even pushing them for outdoor recess.

Definitely no masks for kids age 6 an under. Definitely no masks outdoors.

Plus, the people pushing to remove the mask mandate are not trying to ban masks. They are simply looking for mask choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone unmask before covid pills / treatments are available?

Just keep moving goalposts

What is “moving goalposts” to some is “adapting to shifting conditions” to others.

At what point do we decide that mass masking of children isn't necessary mitigation strategy?

Duh when it’s not a pandemic.

So first it was when the teachers could get vaccinated then it was when the kids could get vaccine now it's just "when it's not a pandemic"
Like when is this going to be over?! I'm over this shit.

It was always "when it's not a pandemic."
But, apparently it was never a pandemic for you and it will never be.
Unfortunately, stupidity is unbeatable. Selfishness does not help too.

You know it's really easy for people like you who never actually have to wear a mask except for like 5 minutes at the grocery store or no way you probably just use instacart some of us actually have to wear masks all day long and do real jobs

Oh, you are a nurse/doctor/lab tech and have been wearing a mask to work for years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate the masks for little kids. Why are we doing this to them when they don’t even get that sick? It’s crazy.

Key word: YOU hate the masks. The little kids are fine. Stop trying to make this about you. You can't adapt. They can. They HAVE.

YOU will need to adapt when all our kids unmask this spring. There...see how that feels lol.

But you’ll be homeschooling to achieve this so what do I have to adapt to?

Nope...you will cause you are unreasonably afraid of what is now essentially a "cold."

Yeah, but I live in reality where MCPS is not eliminating the mask mandate by spring break, so…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate the masks for little kids. Why are we doing this to them when they don’t even get that sick? It’s crazy.

Key word: YOU hate the masks. The little kids are fine. Stop trying to make this about you. You can't adapt. They can. They HAVE.

YOU will need to adapt when all our kids unmask this spring. There...see how that feels lol.

Apparently, everyone glossed over my post. I'm a highschooler with elementary aged siblings. No one cares about masks. Not my friends, not their friends, not my siblings. My mom lied to the school board and said my siblings come home crying every day over masks as if lying is normal. I realized then adults don't care about us at all. They care about their own agendas and are using us as scapegoats. I have no doubt a few kids hate masks. Not the majority. Not anyone I know. Not anyone they know. Not their siblings. Not my siblings. Not their friends. However, we've all come to find out our parents are trying to spin a different narrative for us. In our name. On our behalf. It's horrible being only 16 and realizing your parents are liars. I've had friends tell me their parents have asked them to cry at school board meetings. To ask them to lie about how they felt about virtual. To speak without their consent about their "experiences" as a mask wearing student. It's far, far worse than MoCo trying to protect citizens. You have all cultivated this entire community of distrust and we all see it. Kids see it. Teenagers see it. We aren't mentally traumatized by masks or virtual learning. We are traumatized by seeing people we trusted turning into actual liars, while using us as their scapegoat. If we need mental health professionals, it's probably because of the mental health professionals in this community just trying to get their name in the news. No one listens to us though because we are kids.

I hear you. My kids don't mind wearing mask either. I have yet to meet a kid that has a problem with wearing masks. I think the school year should finish out with masks for consistency. If numbers stay low over the summer, remove the mandate for next school year.

Finish out the school year with the man mandate?!? Oh, please no.

Once the numbers go back down in March, the kids need to be given the option. If numbers go back up, they can reconsider.

Kids should be allowed to choose mask or no mask, once the numbers are lower and hospitals are not overwhelmed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate the masks for little kids. Why are we doing this to them when they don’t even get that sick? It’s crazy.

Key word: YOU hate the masks. The little kids are fine. Stop trying to make this about you. You can't adapt. They can. They HAVE.

YOU will need to adapt when all our kids unmask this spring. There...see how that feels lol.

Apparently, everyone glossed over my post. I'm a highschooler with elementary aged siblings. No one cares about masks. Not my friends, not their friends, not my siblings. My mom lied to the school board and said my siblings come home crying every day over masks as if lying is normal. I realized then adults don't care about us at all. They care about their own agendas and are using us as scapegoats. I have no doubt a few kids hate masks. Not the majority. Not anyone I know. Not anyone they know. Not their siblings. Not my siblings. Not their friends. However, we've all come to find out our parents are trying to spin a different narrative for us. In our name. On our behalf. It's horrible being only 16 and realizing your parents are liars. I've had friends tell me their parents have asked them to cry at school board meetings. To ask them to lie about how they felt about virtual. To speak without their consent about their "experiences" as a mask wearing student. It's far, far worse than MoCo trying to protect citizens. You have all cultivated this entire community of distrust and we all see it. Kids see it. Teenagers see it. We aren't mentally traumatized by masks or virtual learning. We are traumatized by seeing people we trusted turning into actual liars, while using us as their scapegoat. If we need mental health professionals, it's probably because of the mental health professionals in this community just trying to get their name in the news. No one listens to us though because we are kids.

I hear you. My kids don't mind wearing mask either. I have yet to meet a kid that has a problem with wearing masks. I think the school year should finish out with masks for consistency. If numbers stay low over the summer, remove the mandate for next school year.

Finish out the school year with the man mandate?!? Oh, please no.

Once the numbers go back down in March, the kids need to be given the option. If numbers go back up, they can reconsider.

Kids should be allowed to choose mask or no mask, once the numbers are lower and hospitals are not overwhelmed.

This is not happening. Knock yourself out tho! lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a reasonable goal given our vaccination rates, decline of omicron, success of mask optional schools in neighboring Virginia, announcement from the archdiocese of Arlington… there is so much data to support this too.

What do you think?

i think you should duck off