Warning to expecting moms: Required to wear mask during PUSHING at Holy Cross

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP. I gave birth in November 2020 wearing a mask (Virginia Hospital Center). It was because the COVID test they gave me in triage took forever to come back (and no vaccines back then). I am shocked that they made you wear it after a negative test - I was allowed to take it off after my results came back. But it was all over by then.

I was also unable to get an epidural because the anesthesiologist wouldn't come in until I had tested negative. The good news is, when you are giving birth with no pain relief you kind of forget about the mask.

You couldn’t get an epidural? I am so sorry.

Omg we are so scared of COVID we have accepted denying a pregnant woman pain relief? This is crazy. I’m delivering at VHC in a few months (I’m fully vaxxed) and I will raise bloody hell if I can’t get an epidural.

That seems like a lie told because there was no anesthesiologist available. Doctors are working with known COVID + patients and wear appropriate gear. Not knowing this woman’s status wouldn’t have been reason to refuse care to a patient.

PP here. That is possible. I did wonder what would have happened if I had been covid-positive - no epidural at all?

It is what they told me, though.

The concern in anesthesia is whether you will have any negative effects to the epidural caused, or exacerbated by, COVID. Respiratory complications being at the top of the list. So this isn't as simple as the anesthesiologist didn't want to walk into the room. They deal with COVID patients all day. They have PPE. It's about how to treat you if you are, or are not, COVID +, and the timing and manner of the epidural.

https://journals.lww.com/anesthesia-analgesia/fulltext/2020/08000/the_timing_of_labor_epidurals_in_covid_19.101.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thousands of women have worn masks giving birth during this pandemic. And they've done it for their safety and the safety of the hospital staff.

OP, you'll be fine. It's just a mask.

Remember - pandemic. community. > me me me me

it’s been almost 2 yrs. it’s not being selfish to question whether a “precaution” does more harm than good. forcing a vaxxed, covid negative woman to wear a mask while pushing out a baby is absolutely justified.

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Anonymous wrote:Thousands of women have worn masks giving birth during this pandemic. And they've done it for their safety and the safety of the hospital staff.

OP, you'll be fine. It's just a mask.

Remember - pandemic. community. > me me me me

Ah yes the old other women have done it, you can to. Unfortunately in your equation the risk is super low with vaccination and a negative test.
Remember women have been giving birth in cornfields for years with no help. Just because we can doesn’t mean we should have to.

That analogy makes zero sense. The masks are to make people safer, not to harm. At this point, if you cannot do back flips in a mask I'm not sure what's wrong with you. I had major surgery this year. I had to wear a mask the entire time. Even had to wear it while in my hospital bed recovering over the next few days. It was painful and not a fun time. But masks were worn by all. I'm not feeling bad for OP here. Sorry not sorry.

fwiw I don’t think you should have had to wear a mask either. ffs when we will get some actually evidence based standards on masks that measure risks and benefits.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to continue having skilled nurses in the room while you deliver your baby, wear your mask. It’s for the nurses safety. Even though you had a negative test and are vaccinated, test can be wrong and we all know the Delta break through the vaccinations. It’s not all about you mama! Sounds like you delivered a healthy baby with no lasting negative affects from wearing a mask. Also it’s not just holy Cross.

oh ffs. it is all about the woman physically pushing out the baby. she was vaxxed and had a negative test. forcing her to wear a mask was absolutely irrational.

Guess what it’s probably to protect the unvaccinated nurses.

Then they can get vaccinated. If you work and healthcare and won’t get a vaccine then find a new line of work. Pregnant women should not have to sacrifice their comfort during the delivery for the sake of some stupid antivaxxer. Hell, I don’t feel the need to lift a finger to do anything for antivaxxers. I scroll past news articles of their deaths and DGAF anymore.

Funny, I feel the same way about people who refuse to mask given that people who are vaxxed can spread it, and there was an unvaccinated person (your child who are supposed to GAF about but apparently don't) in the room.

Someone who doesn't understand that giving birth is not all about the woman, it's also about the child's safety, should really not be parenting.

sooo … you think parents should mask at home? that’s weird.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP. I gave birth in November 2020 wearing a mask (Virginia Hospital Center). It was because the COVID test they gave me in triage took forever to come back (and no vaccines back then). I am shocked that they made you wear it after a negative test - I was allowed to take it off after my results came back. But it was all over by then.

I was also unable to get an epidural because the anesthesiologist wouldn't come in until I had tested negative. The good news is, when you are giving birth with no pain relief you kind of forget about the mask.

You couldn’t get an epidural? I am so sorry.

Omg we are so scared of COVID we have accepted denying a pregnant woman pain relief? This is crazy. I’m delivering at VHC in a few months (I’m fully vaxxed) and I will raise bloody hell if I can’t get an epidural.

RN here. Your pain is not more important than the risk to the doctor's life. Sorry. You're not going to die from labor pain. It will suck, but you're not dying. If you were positive, the doctor could die.

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Anonymous wrote:And if the woman in the throes of childbirth refuses, takes it off every time they put it on and/or fights back, what’re the hospital people going to do? Abandon her? Physically restrain her? Shoot her up with chemical restraints? People in medical facilities too commonly forget that patients are not prisoners or children and it is the professionals who owe the duty to the patient, not the other way around.

I hope more people start doing this.

No, but if I were your medical professional, I would exit the room and cover myself in more complete PPE, the kind we use for confirm positive patients. I would take time away from your care to protect myself and my other patients. I would not stay in an enclosed space with an unmasked person. And that would impact your care.

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Great! I would have no problem with you wearing whatever PPE you need to feel safe. And I have worked in hospitals before — it takes at most a few minutes to put on the extra protection. In the course of hours long labor it would be an insignificant amount of time, so stop with the drama.

I’m also shocked that there are medical providers saying that their comfort is more important than the laboring woman in their care. It’s actually kind of sick that a lazy nurse on a power trip wants to force a woman in labor to wear a mask just so the nurse doesn’t have to wear more PPE.

And any nurse trying to use the threat of giving inferior care is disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if the woman in the throes of childbirth refuses, takes it off every time they put it on and/or fights back, what’re the hospital people going to do? Abandon her? Physically restrain her? Shoot her up with chemical restraints? People in medical facilities too commonly forget that patients are not prisoners or children and it is the professionals who owe the duty to the patient, not the other way around.

I hope more people start doing this.

No, but if I were your medical professional, I would exit the room and cover myself in more complete PPE, the kind we use for confirm positive patients. I would take time away from your care to protect myself and my other patients. I would not stay in an enclosed space with an unmasked person. And that would impact your care.

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Great! I would have no problem with you wearing whatever PPE you need to feel safe. And I have worked in hospitals before — it takes at most a few minutes to put on the extra protection. In the course of hours long labor it would be an insignificant amount of time, so stop with the drama.

I’m also shocked that there are medical providers saying that their comfort is more important than the laboring woman in their care. It’s actually kind of sick that a lazy nurse on a power trip wants to force a woman in labor to wear a mask just so the nurse doesn’t have to wear more PPE.

And any nurse trying to use the threat of giving inferior care is disgusting.

You could try reading the other explanation and link above.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to continue having skilled nurses in the room while you deliver your baby, wear your mask. It’s for the nurses safety. Even though you had a negative test and are vaccinated, test can be wrong and we all know the Delta break through the vaccinations. It’s not all about you mama! Sounds like you delivered a healthy baby with no lasting negative affects from wearing a mask. Also it’s not just holy Cross.

oh ffs. it is all about the woman physically pushing out the baby. she was vaxxed and had a negative test. forcing her to wear a mask was absolutely irrational.

Guess what it’s probably to protect the unvaccinated nurses.

Then they can get vaccinated. If you work and healthcare and won’t get a vaccine then find a new line of work. Pregnant women should not have to sacrifice their comfort during the delivery for the sake of some stupid antivaxxer. Hell, I don’t feel the need to lift a finger to do anything for antivaxxers. I scroll past news articles of their deaths and DGAF anymore.

Funny, I feel the same way about people who refuse to mask given that people who are vaxxed can spread it, and there was an unvaccinated person (your child who are supposed to GAF about but apparently don't) in the room.

Someone who doesn't understand that giving birth is not all about the woman, it's also about the child's safety, should really not be parenting.

sooo … you think parents should mask at home? that’s weird.

No, I think that parents should wear masks in indoor spaces with other people so they don't bring covid home to their unvaxxed children.

If OP was giving birth outdoors, or placing the child for adoption, then I apologize.

[Anonymous]

I had surgery in June and had to wear a mask during my entire 3 day hospital stay.

I was allowed to remove it once positioned on the surgical table before the Anesthesiologist did their thing. I even woke up in recovery with one on my face. It also had to stay on the entire time I was in my room, except for when I was eating a meal.

I was also vaccinated and had a negative Covid test during pre-op.

I was happy to oblige because it kept me safe!

While I was waiting in my room in the ER, the only call I heard on the overhead speaker more than "stroke patient incoming" (very scary, they called 5 of those!!) was "security to ER bay/room X". Every security call was for a patient who refused to keep their mask on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP. I gave birth in November 2020 wearing a mask (Virginia Hospital Center). It was because the COVID test they gave me in triage took forever to come back (and no vaccines back then). I am shocked that they made you wear it after a negative test - I was allowed to take it off after my results came back. But it was all over by then.

I was also unable to get an epidural because the anesthesiologist wouldn't come in until I had tested negative. The good news is, when you are giving birth with no pain relief you kind of forget about the mask.

You couldn’t get an epidural? I am so sorry.

Omg we are so scared of COVID we have accepted denying a pregnant woman pain relief? This is crazy. I’m delivering at VHC in a few months (I’m fully vaxxed) and I will raise bloody hell if I can’t get an epidural.

RN here. Your pain is not more important than the risk to the doctor's life. Sorry. You're not going to die from labor pain. It will suck, but you're not dying. If you were positive, the doctor could die.

Healthcare workers who are that high risk ("could die" from COVID) should not be working in healthcare. Jeesh. -daughter of healthcare workers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP. I gave birth in November 2020 wearing a mask (Virginia Hospital Center). It was because the COVID test they gave me in triage took forever to come back (and no vaccines back then). I am shocked that they made you wear it after a negative test - I was allowed to take it off after my results came back. But it was all over by then.

I was also unable to get an epidural because the anesthesiologist wouldn't come in until I had tested negative. The good news is, when you are giving birth with no pain relief you kind of forget about the mask.

You couldn’t get an epidural? I am so sorry.

Omg we are so scared of COVID we have accepted denying a pregnant woman pain relief? This is crazy. I’m delivering at VHC in a few months (I’m fully vaxxed) and I will raise bloody hell if I can’t get an epidural.

RN here. Your pain is not more important than the risk to the doctor's life. Sorry. You're not going to die from labor pain. It will suck, but you're not dying. If you were positive, the doctor could die.

Troll.

If you are an actual nurse you know that doctors and nurses treat infectious people (including with more dangerous infections like HIV and hepatitis) every day, regardless of infection status. A doctor or nurse cannot refuse to care for someone based on their having an illness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And if the woman in the throes of childbirth refuses, takes it off every time they put it on and/or fights back, what’re the hospital people going to do? Abandon her? Physically restrain her? Shoot her up with chemical restraints? People in medical facilities too commonly forget that patients are not prisoners or children and it is the professionals who owe the duty to the patient, not the other way around.

I hope more people start doing this.

No, but if I were your medical professional, I would exit the room and cover myself in more complete PPE, the kind we use for confirm positive patients. I would take time away from your care to protect myself and my other patients. I would not stay in an enclosed space with an unmasked person. And that would impact your care.

Similarly if you were brandishing a knife or trying to attack me, I would stop care and make the scene safe for myself. Same as if you lit candles or tried to smoke a cigarette in your room. I would require you comply with hospital policy that protects you and everyone else.

You like drama, eh?

To be fair, they were replying to the most dramatic post I'd read yet in this thread. Tear off the mask!! Refuse to comply!! Tell the nurses and doctors their DUTY is to cater to you the patient and that is that!!

And these same people will be pissed when there is a 4 month waitlist to see the one qualified OB left in their town.

Entitlement knows no bounds apparently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had to wear one during my Sibley delivery last year. Why are you surprised?

Because a mask was put on her chest during a ctx after a shift change when the nurse before had not made her have one. Did you read the post?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to continue having skilled nurses in the room while you deliver your baby, wear your mask. It’s for the nurses safety. Even though you had a negative test and are vaccinated, test can be wrong and we all know the Delta break through the vaccinations. It’s not all about you mama! Sounds like you delivered a healthy baby with no lasting negative affects from wearing a mask. Also it’s not just holy Cross.

oh ffs. it is all about the woman physically pushing out the baby. she was vaxxed and had a negative test. forcing her to wear a mask was absolutely irrational.

Guess what it’s probably to protect the unvaccinated nurses.

Then they can get vaccinated. If you work and healthcare and won’t get a vaccine then find a new line of work. Pregnant women should not have to sacrifice their comfort during the delivery for the sake of some stupid antivaxxer. Hell, I don’t feel the need to lift a finger to do anything for antivaxxers. I scroll past news articles of their deaths and DGAF anymore.

Funny, I feel the same way about people who refuse to mask given that people who are vaxxed can spread it, and there was an unvaccinated person (your child who are supposed to GAF about but apparently don't) in the room.

Someone who doesn't understand that giving birth is not all about the woman, it's also about the child's safety, should really not be parenting.

sooo … you think parents should mask at home? that’s weird.

No, I think that parents should wear masks in indoor spaces with other people so they don't bring covid home to their unvaxxed children.

If OP was giving birth outdoors, or placing the child for adoption, then I apologize.

so they can’t go to the dentist? cool.

[Anonymous]

Also had to wear a mask last summer and it was the worst part of my entire experience for sure. My friend also wore a mask and she and her baby still caught Covid in the hospital. Most of my friends not in this area never wore masks and never caught it. If there was definite science to it sure but there’s 100% not, especially now with high vaccination rates and antibodies. The whole thing is so anti-science and absurd.