Who did you think killed JonBenet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another odd thing. See below for some excerpts of the note. If this happened to me, I would be completely focused on getting the money together and dealing with the "kidnappers." It doesn't seem like this was a priority for the Ramseys.

"She is safe and unharmed and if you want her to see 1997, you… will withdraw $118,000… I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence an earlier pickup of your daughter "

John Ramsey was on the phone with his banker getting the money together that morning. They all sat and waited for the phone to ring and it didn't.

[Anonymous]

If Santa was well enough to be boarding a plane overseas the very next day, he was well enough to have been involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another odd thing. See below for some excerpts of the note. If this happened to me, I would be completely focused on getting the money together and dealing with the "kidnappers." It doesn't seem like this was a priority for the Ramseys.

"She is safe and unharmed and if you want her to see 1997, you… will withdraw $118,000… I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence an earlier pickup of your daughter "

John Ramsey was on the phone with his banker getting the money together that morning. They all sat and waited for the phone to ring and it didn't.

Did you watch the Dateline special? They mentioned the time went without mention (a detective found it odd that j and p didn't mention the missed call) and that the cops had prepped the family for the call.

[Anonymous]

if JB was lured downstairs and not carried Santa was the only one who could have done it. JB told her mother's friend that Santa was going to pay her a special visit after Christmas. By these words from the victim herself- she may have told the world who her killer was. The cops interview the mother and her daughter because JB had been at their house 12/24. When the mother told the cops this detail the cops asked no follow up questions. She said when they were interviewing her daughter she got the impression that the didn't have kids or didn't understand how kids thought. They just dismissed things. When John was interviewed he said he felt the only person who could have possibly lured JB down stairs was Santa. He said she trusted him and would have gone. JB had given Santa a tour of the entire house the year before. She even took him to her bedroom and basement and showed him the back area of the basement where the Christmas trees were kept. Also there was that strange Santa teddy bear that was on JB's bed that the da's ofice asked the public for help if they recognized it.
So a senerio could be: Santa broke into the house through the basement window and hid. Then when everyone was asleep he woke up JB and told her he was here for their special visit. He showed her the Santa Bear so she would not be scared. (His son had said that he had used teddy bears as props before but did not recognize the particular Santa prop) Santa tells JB they will go have a snack just like she leaves him a snack on Christmas. He tells her to be very quiet because it is a secret visit. They go to the kitchen and he points to the pineapple and she has a few bites. Then he tells her that her surprise is in the basement and they should go down their together just like they did last year. They go to the basement and then Santa whacks her on the head. He wants to try and get her in the suitcase but he can't do it and he is too weak to lift her though the window. He decides then to change his plan and assaults and asphyxiates her in the back. (That is his true motive). He then waits to see if anyone comes. The house is still silent so he realizes no one is waking up. He goes to the laundry room to look for something to cover her up. He finds the blanket and covers her up. It was dark so he didn't see the other laundry sticking to it - the Barbie night gown. He goes upstairs and writes the ransom note. He does this because in his mind he wants to "cover" the true motive- that he is a sick peodophile. The reason the note is so long is because he rambles in normal life. He can't help it. He puts the note on the step and leaves through the side door.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:if JB was lured downstairs and not carried Santa was the only one who could have done it. JB told her mother's friend that Santa was going to pay her a special visit after Christmas. By these words from the victim herself- she may have told the world who her killer was. The cops interview the mother and her daughter because JB had been at their house 12/24. When the mother told the cops this detail the cops asked no follow up questions. She said when they were interviewing her daughter she got the impression that the didn't have kids or didn't understand how kids thought. They just dismissed things. When John was interviewed he said he felt the only person who could have possibly lured JB down stairs was Santa. He said she trusted him and would have gone. JB had given Santa a tour of the entire house the year before. She even took him to her bedroom and basement and showed him the back area of the basement where the Christmas trees were kept. Also there was that strange Santa teddy bear that was on JB's bed that the da's ofice asked the public for help if they recognized it.
So a senerio could be: Santa broke into the house through the basement window and hid. Then when everyone was asleep he woke up JB and told her he was here for their special visit. He showed her the Santa Bear so she would not be scared. (His son had said that he had used teddy bears as props before but did not recognize the particular Santa prop) Santa tells JB they will go have a snack just like she leaves him a snack on Christmas. He tells her to be very quiet because it is a secret visit. They go to the kitchen and he points to the pineapple and she has a few bites. Then he tells her that her surprise is in the basement and they should go down their together just like they did last year. They go to the basement and then Santa whacks her on the head. He wants to try and get her in the suitcase but he can't do it and he is too weak to lift her though the window. He decides then to change his plan and assaults and asphyxiates her in the back. (That is his true motive). He then waits to see if anyone comes. The house is still silent so he realizes no one is waking up. He goes to the laundry room to look for something to cover her up. He finds the blanket and covers her up. It was dark so he didn't see the other laundry sticking to it - the Barbie night gown. He goes upstairs and writes the ransom note. He does this because in his mind he wants to "cover" the true motive- that he is a sick peodophile. The reason the note is so long is because he rambles in normal life. He can't help it. He puts the note on the step and leaves through the side door.

Was Santa's handwriting ever compared against the note?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Santa was well enough to be boarding a plane overseas the very next day, he was well enough to have been involved.

80 year old, 90 year old people get on plane flights every day. Do you think that they are capable of brutally killing and carrying around a 45/50 pound child - up and down stairs no less.

Flying/traveling means that a person is well enough to get around o.k.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:if JB was lured downstairs and not carried Santa was the only one who could have done it. JB told her mother's friend that Santa was going to pay her a special visit after Christmas. By these words from the victim herself- she may have told the world who her killer was. The cops interview the mother and her daughter because JB had been at their house 12/24. When the mother told the cops this detail the cops asked no follow up questions. She said when they were interviewing her daughter she got the impression that the didn't have kids or didn't understand how kids thought. They just dismissed things. When John was interviewed he said he felt the only person who could have possibly lured JB down stairs was Santa. He said she trusted him and would have gone. JB had given Santa a tour of the entire house the year before. She even took him to her bedroom and basement and showed him the back area of the basement where the Christmas trees were kept. Also there was that strange Santa teddy bear that was on JB's bed that the da's ofice asked the public for help if they recognized it.
So a senerio could be: Santa broke into the house through the basement window and hid. Then when everyone was asleep he woke up JB and told her he was here for their special visit. He showed her the Santa Bear so she would not be scared. (His son had said that he had used teddy bears as props before but did not recognize the particular Santa prop) Santa tells JB they will go have a snack just like she leaves him a snack on Christmas. He tells her to be very quiet because it is a secret visit. They go to the kitchen and he points to the pineapple and she has a few bites. Then he tells her that her surprise is in the basement and they should go down their together just like they did last year. They go to the basement and then Santa whacks her on the head. He wants to try and get her in the suitcase but he can't do it and he is too weak to lift her though the window. He decides then to change his plan and assaults and asphyxiates her in the back. (That is his true motive). He then waits to see if anyone comes. The house is still silent so he realizes no one is waking up. He goes to the laundry room to look for something to cover her up. He finds the blanket and covers her up. It was dark so he didn't see the other laundry sticking to it - the Barbie night gown. He goes upstairs and writes the ransom note. He does this because in his mind he wants to "cover" the true motive- that he is a sick peodophile. The reason the note is so long is because he rambles in normal life. He can't help it. He puts the note on the step and leaves through the side door.

Was Santa's handwriting ever compared against the note?

Yes. It wasn't a match.

[Anonymous]

^The above seems as good a theory as anything else. But I'm not seeing that Santa guy being able to hoist himself out of that window - even with that suitcase as a step.

[Anonymous]

In Schiller's book it said that Santa's handwriting could not be completely eliminated either but that cops theorized that he couldn't do it because of his health history so that was all that mattered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^The above seems as good a theory as anything else. But I'm not seeing that Santa guy being able to hoist himself out of that window - even with that suitcase as a step.

I think he went out the back door after he left the note.

[Anonymous]

The back doors was found open but in all the confusion with the Ramsey's friends over and the police not doing a search of the house no one knew when the door had been left open.

[Anonymous]

Maybe Santa wrote the ransom note to delay discovery of the body?

[Anonymous]

Santa said " looking back I always thought that if anybody wanted to do major damage to this family, they could do it at Christmas, because they all adored Christmas". (In Schiller's book)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The back doors was found open but in all the confusion with the Ramsey's friends over and the police not doing a search of the house no one knew when the door had been left open.

John had checked that door before the police got there. It was locked. The police must have opened it when they went outside to check around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe Santa wrote the ransom note to delay discovery of the body?

I think so. He needed to get back home and he was covering his sick motive.