That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seen in the comment section of an NYT post on FB:

"Have y'all ever noticed that alcohol makes a man less responsible for rape, yet a drunk woman is somehow more responsible?"

Re women--not more responsible but yes more vulnerable

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

My post reads angrily to you? Hmm. I've never been raped, and I don't drink. I take normal safety precautions. My irritation is that on every fucking one of these threads, it's "women need to watch themselves and their behavior," every time. Every time. It's tired. It's not the issue. The issue is that women - old, young, sober, shitfaced, virgin, prostitute are raped, every day. And somehow the story always circles back to what they did or didn't do to cause it or prevent it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

My post reads angrily to you? Hmm. I've never been raped, and I don't drink. I take normal safety precautions. My irritation is that on every fucking one of these threads, it's "women need to watch themselves and their behavior," every time. Every time. It's tired. It's not the issue. The issue is that women - old, young, sober, shitfaced, virgin, prostitute are raped, every day. And somehow the story always circles back to what they did or didn't do to cause it or prevent it.

Would you rather women just accept it??

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

My post reads angrily to you? Hmm. I've never been raped, and I don't drink. I take normal safety precautions. My irritation is that on every fucking one of these threads, it's "women need to watch themselves and their behavior," every time. Every time. It's tired. It's not the issue. The issue is that women - old, young, sober, shitfaced, virgin, prostitute are raped, every day. And somehow the story always circles back to what they did or didn't do to cause it or prevent it.

Can you understand that trying to take steps to be safe doesn't mean you caused something if it happens?

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

My post reads angrily to you? Hmm. I've never been raped, and I don't drink. I take normal safety precautions. My irritation is that on every fucking one of these threads, it's "women need to watch themselves and their behavior," every time. Every time. It's tired. It's not the issue. The issue is that women - old, young, sober, shitfaced, virgin, prostitute are raped, every day. And somehow the story always circles back to what they did or didn't do to cause it or prevent it.

There is a reason you hear about date rape in association with drunken behavior.

You almost never hear about the sober college kids in Biology class raping each other on the way to English class. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard of that.

If you don't think that the risk elevates MUCH higher in certain scenarios under certain conditions you are wrong. There is most definitely a connection between drunkeness, sexual behavior (kissing/making out/dancing at a party) and date rape/sexual assault.

[Anonymous]

^I would say that women should know and recognize the risks and minimize those risks as much as they can.

That doesn't mean never party, never hook up, never drink - just try to minimize your risks as much as you can.

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

My post reads angrily to you? Hmm. I've never been raped, and I don't drink. I take normal safety precautions. My irritation is that on every fucking one of these threads, it's "women need to watch themselves and their behavior," every time. Every time. It's tired. It's not the issue. The issue is that women - old, young, sober, shitfaced, virgin, prostitute are raped, every day. And somehow the story always circles back to what they did or didn't do to cause it or prevent it.

Would you rather women just accept it??

You don't get it. We are already accepting it. And blaming ourselves for it. That's bullshit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

My post reads angrily to you? Hmm. I've never been raped, and I don't drink. I take normal safety precautions. My irritation is that on every fucking one of these threads, it's "women need to watch themselves and their behavior," every time. Every time. It's tired. It's not the issue. The issue is that women - old, young, sober, shitfaced, virgin, prostitute are raped, every day. And somehow the story always circles back to what they did or didn't do to cause it or prevent it.

Would you rather women just accept it??

You don't get it. We are already accepting it. And blaming ourselves for it. That's bullshit.

No way. YOU don't get it. Speak for yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

What are the rules? Don't drink at all? Don't wear slutty clothing? Don't flirt? How many rules do women have to follow to comply to not get raped? You are brainwashed if you think that will keep a young woman safe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

What are the rules? Don't drink at all? Don't wear slutty clothing? Don't flirt? How many rules do women have to follow to comply to not get raped? You are brainwashed if you think that will keep a young woman safe.

Wear a burqa.

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

What are the rules? Don't drink at all? Don't wear slutty clothing? Don't flirt? How many rules do women have to follow to comply to not get raped? You are brainwashed if you think that will keep a young woman safe.

What exactly are you expecting to happen? You want to be able to stumble bum around black out drunk whenever/wherever you please with the GUARANTEE that nothing bad will happen to you? Ha. Dream on.

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

+1 exactly!

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

My post reads angrily to you? Hmm. I've never been raped, and I don't drink. I take normal safety precautions. My irritation is that on every fucking one of these threads, it's "women need to watch themselves and their behavior," every time. Every time. It's tired. It's not the issue. The issue is that women - old, young, sober, shitfaced, virgin, prostitute are raped, every day. And somehow the story always circles back to what they did or didn't do to cause it or prevent it.

Would you rather women just accept it??

You don't get it. We are already accepting it. And blaming ourselves for it. That's bullshit.

No way. YOU don't get it. Speak for yourself.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:according to certain posts here it would be justified to rape drunk people male or female I suppose right?. Hey, do not get drunk or you might exposed yourself to be raped by someone or something. Imagine if guys would have the fear of getting drunk because of this possibility.

No one is saying it's justified to rape anyone at any time, drunk or not. They are saying that you're exposing yourself to all kinds of bad possibilities when you're too drunk to know your surroundings or what's going on.

I'm starting to wander if the posts about not getting drunk are coming from just one or 2 people. I think everybody understands how drinking can cause many bad things to happen, but it feels like every few posts is shoving this point down our throats.

I'm thinking that there are one or two people who don't want to admit the role of alcohol. Read the research.

https://rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence Three quarters of rapists are known to their victim. What shall women do: never befriend men? Cloister? Chastity belt? Never, ever drink, ever, because people like you and similarly obtuse posters just have to believe rape is under the control of the woman.

Strangely, RAINN doesn"t talk a lot about alcohol and rape. I wonder why.

You are misdirecting your anger. If you need to think that women have zero control over their lives at all times just to deal with your own recovery, then fine. Get off a thread about rape and go mull that over in private. No need to lash out at other women who are thinking in practical terms about ways they can minimize their risk.

What are the rules? Don't drink at all? Don't wear slutty clothing? Don't flirt? How many rules do women have to follow to comply to not get raped? You are brainwashed if you think that will keep a young woman safe.

Your poor reading comprehension - again and again - is getting old. Really old.