Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How will they ever be able to find jurors for this case and that of Alex Ross?

LOL. You only need jurors if there is a legal case.

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Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.

“Immigration enforcement” of stripping the rights from legal/US citizens because of poor judgement from the government. And inhumane standards of behavior toward nonviolent illegal immigrants. These are actions that the govt is taking in our name and we have a duty to protest if we don’t agree with them. If you believe ICE “immigration enforcement” was ok with you before these two deaths, you clearly disagree with the protesters but that doesn’t make them wrong or unlawful.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

They are not protesting or rioting. They are standing in public space, legally filming the gestapo. And good thing too, because all of these camera angles expose every single lie from this regime. Why are you in favor of a federal government treading on the rights of US citizens?

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Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

Is what these people are doing constitutionally protected protest? They are actively attempting to impede and obstruct federal law enforcement activities. That’s not a constitutionally protected right. IMO, the two deaths we have seen are a tragic consequence of a party telling their supporters to interject themselves into dangerous federal law enforcement operations. It’s not a safe environment for anyone.

No, they are not. they are standing on sidewalks filming the activities. The snowflake ICE agents are the ones who attack...every.single.time.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

He wasn't being arrested. ICE is not the police. They can't just cuff someone because they annoyed them. Not that the police are supposed to do that either, but that's an issue for another time. Him having a gun was not a crime. They don't get to shoot someone because they possess a gun.

How many times does this have to be said? THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR WHAT OCCURRED.

If you MAGA morons and this regime could just admit this was not handled properly and that the officers in question would be held accountable, you could easily bring the temperature down.

But you can't and you won't because the violence is the point.

The good news is, if they keep this up it will be the end of them.

Really?? How many people do you think ICE will have to murder and cover up before they are stopped?

And who is going to stop them?? Noem, DUI Heg, Miller and Fox News all lie about the murder victims.

I don't see this ending any time soon.

Oh, I think that it will escalate and involve actions on both sides. It will get messy and worse. However, I think that the faster it escalates the faster we get the country back. The alternative is TACO, but I don’t think that Trump has any say in it anymore. This is President Miller.

Yes, I agree with you here.

But there will be no "both sides." ICE is heavily armed, trigger-happy and completely unfettered by any laws. ICE are the violent criminal thugs who are murdering US citizens indiscriminately.

Ok, we can disagree on that point. I think that forces will gather to push back, only based on what I see from veterans and some police and guard members posting on other platforms.

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I think the thing that's bothering me the most is that we have everything recorded at this point multiple viewpoints and people will still say they believe the lies of DHS and the president.
It's not a lack of information it's willful disregard for truth. I have a lot of family members in the south and many of them are Trump voters. My husband was asked me why I keep them and don't block them or unfollow and it's because it provides a viewpoint and even when reading their posts about this I still can't wrap my mind around it because this is the party and the people who cheered on Kyle rittenhouse, they said those in January 6th we're just congregating and protesting, they vote for Republicans quote on quote because they're going to come for our guns, and I can't help but begin to think that the only constitutional rights that they believe in are the ones that apply to them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How will they ever be able to find jurors for this case and that of Alex Ross?

LOL. You only need jurors if there is a legal case.

WTF is a "legal case"? It's safe to say that we can ignore your moronic legal opinions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

Is what these people are doing constitutionally protected protest? They are actively attempting to impede and obstruct federal law enforcement activities. That’s not a constitutionally protected right. IMO, the two deaths we have seen are a tragic consequence of a party telling their supporters to interject themselves into dangerous federal law enforcement operations. It’s not a safe environment for anyone.

Funny how you only question the legality of the protests and not the actions of masked thugs. Total logic fail, you gross traitor. If everyday men hadn’t thrown tea into a harbor, America would have a very different history. Read a goddamn history book.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing. Now that we know what happened, why can't Trump and Noem apologize for the mistake?

That would show weakness. They will not only not apologize, they will double down on the lies and gaslighting. Look at Bovino on the Sunday shows...he isn't very good at this, but they are trying to execute an Orwellian messaging on a population that for the most part, isn't buying what they are trying to sell.

The people on this thread defending ICE are in such a deep minority view of where the country is right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.

Who put you in charge of what people can and can’t protest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?

These killers have already been spirited away and hidden.

[Anonymous]

So many people on here proving that they have no idea what immigration enforcement should look like. This thread is very helpful. Please read before you continue to embarrass yourselves.

https://www.threads.com/@themamattorney/post/DT2qSqvDPKN?xmt=AQF0qdvAYX_-dOW9Hnn9rFR90COJcL1WqE9UXgrezJMe0wOzC6ZxiPL4a1az6XyDnfUZjxY&slof=1

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

It’s not a dangerous job.

Says the person typing whatever from a warm home and a cup of java.

It’s a needlessly dangerous job being done voluntarily by the otherwise unemployable dregs of society, and all for the purposes of evil.

It wasn't needlessly dangerous when Obama and Biden were president. Somehow, ICE was able to execute its mission without killing US citizens and disrupting the lives of millions of Americans trying to go about their business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

This is SUCH a lie. He wasn’t resisting arrest, he was helping a woman that four+ men were tackling to the ground because she probably had a camera out. They sprayed them at close range with pepper spray, and he still kept his body between her and the masked thugs. Then they put bullets in a man who was temporarily blinded instead of WALKING THE FU(K AWAY to actually do their jobs which is to STRATEGICALLY arrest immigrants who have committed violent crimes.

If you think murdering Americans shouting “fu(k ice” is keeping you safer, then you are un-American to the core. Don’t ever say you’re a patriot because you are NOT.

The job of ICE is to remove illegal immigrants. There is no law that says illegal immigrants have to commit a violent crime to be deported.

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

It’s not a dangerous job.

Says the person typing whatever from a warm home and a cup of java.

It’s a needlessly dangerous job being done voluntarily by the otherwise unemployable dregs of society, and all for the purposes of evil.

A bubble thread of comments by posters who frequently disparage the intelligence of any type of LEO and basically don't believe in law enforcement and would never encourage their kids to become a policeperson or any other type of LEO.

The newly hired ICE agents are not trained LEO, particularly local police forces. YOU are the one trying to tie them together. Most of us understand the difference. Just stop.