Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

It’s not a dangerous job.

Says the person typing whatever from a warm home and a cup of java.

How many ICE have been shot since January in Minneapolis? They are creating the danger and they like that. Did you hear the clip of one of them saying “this is just like call of duty”? That’s their mentality

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

Why are they even there though? MN doesn't have many illegals. And now we know that the welfare fraud claim was literally Trumped up. They are there to scare people into submission. You must be a bot/troll if you can't figure this out.

Because Minneapolis doesn’t like Trump. That’s it. This is just one of Trump’s Nobody Likes Me temper tantrums.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

It’s not a dangerous job.

Says the person typing whatever from a warm home and a cup of java.

How many ICE have been shot since January in Minneapolis? They are creating the danger and they like that. Did you hear the clip of one of them saying “this is just like call of duty”? That’s their mentality

DP. They’re intentionally recruiting ICE agents from pools of deplorable gamer types who’ve been practicing for this moment their whole sad lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

Why are they even there though? MN doesn't have many illegals. And now we know that the welfare fraud claim was literally Trumped up. They are there to scare people into submission. You must be a bot/troll if you can't figure this out.

I have reported your post for using this vile word, which I equate to the calling someone a n-----. It's offensive, obscene. Stop using that dehumanizing word. People who are here without documentation are undocumented non-citizens.

[Anonymous]

How will they ever be able to find jurors for this case and that of Alex Ross?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

He wasn't being arrested. ICE is not the police. They can't just cuff someone because they annoyed them. Not that the police are supposed to do that either, but that's an issue for another time. Him having a gun was not a crime. They don't get to shoot someone because they possess a gun.

How many times does this have to be said? THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR WHAT OCCURRED.

If you MAGA morons and this regime could just admit this was not handled properly and that the officers in question would be held accountable, you could easily bring the temperature down.

But you can't and you won't because the violence is the point.

The good news is, if they keep this up it will be the end of them.

Really?? How many people do you think ICE will have to murder and cover up before they are stopped?

And who is going to stop them?? Noem, DUI Heg, Miller and Fox News all lie about the murder victims.

I don't see this ending any time soon.

Oh, I think that it will escalate and involve actions on both sides. It will get messy and worse. However, I think that the faster it escalates the faster we get the country back. The alternative is TACO, but I don’t think that Trump has any say in it anymore. This is President Miller.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

It’s not a dangerous job.

Says the person typing whatever from a warm home and a cup of java.

There are dozens of jobs in America that are more dangerous than police work. We don’t give loggers and trash collectors the benefit of the doubt in every situation like police officers get.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

It’s not a dangerous job.

Says the person typing whatever from a warm home and a cup of java.

It’s a needlessly dangerous job being done voluntarily by the otherwise unemployable dregs of society, and all for the purposes of evil.

A bubble thread of comments by posters who frequently disparage the intelligence of any type of LEO and basically don't believe in law enforcement and would never encourage their kids to become a policeperson or any other type of LEO.

ICE are not LEO

Stop with that lie about Trump's army

It’s the Pedophile Freedom Guard.

Trump Troopers, wearing badges of dishonor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am old enough to remember when Obama was elected to his first term in 2008, the tea party people were showing up to town halls carrying long guns on their backs and signs that read "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." And for a long time after, there were those guys who would just walk around town open carrying large rifles while wearing fatigues, saying they were exercising their constitutional rights, and people on the right cheered them on every step of the way. They'd say that if seeing a gun causes you fear, that's a you problem.

Where are those people now?

There truly are people on the right who only believe in constitutional rights when they are the ones exercising them. When someone else does it, they see them as a threat that needs to be dealt with. Hypocritical and dangerous to their core.

Yep. Very true and it happened here in Richmond quite a bit. In fact, it got the point that my elementary school age DD didn't want to go to Carytown to shop because of the guys with guns. It is interesting that you see all the 2A guys show up at the lobby day event here as well but someone does the same in MN and they are saying that well what did he expect to happen if he had a gun? Come on. What is it? The whole situation is tragic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.

They’re protesting that a giant percentage of what ICE is doing in Minneapolis is not lawful immigration enforcement.

[Anonymous]

The silence from the N.R.A. types is deafening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

He wasn't being arrested. ICE is not the police. They can't just cuff someone because they annoyed them. Not that the police are supposed to do that either, but that's an issue for another time. Him having a gun was not a crime. They don't get to shoot someone because they possess a gun.

How many times does this have to be said? THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR WHAT OCCURRED.

If you MAGA morons and this regime could just admit this was not handled properly and that the officers in question would be held accountable, you could easily bring the temperature down.

But you can't and you won't because the violence is the point.

The good news is, if they keep this up it will be the end of them.

Really?? How many people do you think ICE will have to murder and cover up before they are stopped?

And who is going to stop them?? Noem, DUI Heg, Miller and Fox News all lie about the murder victims.

I don't see this ending any time soon.

Oh, I think that it will escalate and involve actions on both sides. It will get messy and worse. However, I think that the faster it escalates the faster we get the country back. The alternative is TACO, but I don’t think that Trump has any say in it anymore. This is President Miller.

Yes, I agree with you here.

But there will be no "both sides." ICE is heavily armed, trigger-happy and completely unfettered by any laws. ICE are the violent criminal thugs who are murdering US citizens indiscriminately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.

But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.

There has been nothing lawful about this from the beginning. You need to educate yourself on immigration law/enforcement. It should not be ugly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.

Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?

And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.

When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”

These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.

This is SUCH a lie. He wasn’t resisting arrest, he was helping a woman that four+ men were tackling to the ground because she probably had a camera out. They sprayed them at close range with pepper spray, and he still kept his body between her and the masked thugs. Then they put bullets in a man who was temporarily blinded instead of WALKING THE FU(K AWAY to actually do their jobs which is to STRATEGICALLY arrest immigrants who have committed violent crimes.

If you think murdering Americans shouting “fu(k ice” is keeping you safer, then you are un-American to the core. Don’t ever say you’re a patriot because you are NOT.

[Anonymous]

Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?