Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is that this thread has kept me entertained throughout this dreary rainy day. The orcas and their little net idea is a winner.


I thought the orcas have had enough of human foolishness. Maybe the banging noises is orca humor.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of the dialogue around this incident reminds me of when JFK Jr’s plane went missing. It was also an event where the search and rescue occurred over a period of a few days, and where there was decreasing hope, but everyone was still holding out for a good outcome. But knowing that there likely will be resolution one way or the other, compared to planes and people that go missing and are never found.

There’s also some parallels in the style of disaster news reporting, the parade of endlessly speculating “experts” who will probably be completely wrong in the end.

You couldn’t look away back then and can’t look away now, myself included.



I see more parallels here to MH370... Disappeared without a trace..
needle in a haystack.
People may search for weeks, months, years and may never find them.
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I disagree that this isn't a traumatizing story. Obviously levels of trauma vary significantly and many many people are able to read (and even laugh ) about it without feeling any personal impact. But this is really tough to know about for "deep feeling" people, and it absolutely has a negative collective impact on mental health.

I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public. It's horrifying and I hope they are able to be saved. I can't imagine what their families are going through.
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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is that this thread has kept me entertained throughout this dreary rainy day. The orcas and their little net idea is a winner.


I thought the orcas have had enough of human foolishness. Maybe the banging noises is orca humor.


There is a meme of orcas banging on pots and pans saying the water is fine come on in! lol I wish I could find it again.
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Anonymous wrote:projections that oxygen will run out early Thursday morning


I bet the CO2 scrubbers have already stopped working and they have already died from that.
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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't a military sub assist?


How? A “normal” sub cannot dive that deep. And if there are military subs that can and do, I don’t think their governments would want that publicly known.


Military subs can descend to 3000ft. These guys are 12000fy below.

If you think its as simple as sending down a sub to scoop up the capsule or tether a sonar beacon to a submarine and drag it around hoping to detect a ping, then I have a bridge to sell to you.

It would be like flying a kite to catch a space shuttle.


How can a military sub only go to 3000 feet, but these capsules can go to 12,000? Just wondering why the technology is so different.


I don't know, why can't commercial airplanes go to space?


Because we can't send orcas to rescue them. Orcas can't fly.
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Anonymous wrote:I disagree that this isn't a traumatizing story. Obviously levels of trauma vary significantly and many many people are able to read (and even laugh ) about it without feeling any personal impact. But this is really tough to know about for "deep feeling" people, and it absolutely has a negative collective impact on mental health.

I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public. It's horrifying and I hope they are able to be saved. I can't imagine what their families are going through.


I'm a deep feeling person and this isn't doing it for me. Migrant ships with little kids on board capsizing? Totally triggering. A bunch of rich idiot dudes who thought this was a good idea? My deep feels aren't feeling. If I'm okay, society will manage.
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Anonymous wrote:In the photo in this DM story, it looks like there are water droplets or condensation on the inside of the window. Is that normal?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12219589/Missing-Titans-sub-battery-suddenly-DRAINED-2022-Titanic-trip-cutting-expedition-short.html


Dewpoint.
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Anonymous wrote:Once past the window of this being a rescue, I do not see the value in attempting to bring the Titan back to the surface.

Unless the families are willing to pay for the recovery efforts, it seems to me that it should be left where it is.

Anyone disagree? I’m interested in hearing the other side if so.


If they could figure out what went wrong perhaps they could solve that problem going forward. Isn't that one reason we investigate accidents?


Don't do commercial trips to wreckage 12K feet under the surface of the ocean in unapproved vessels. Problem solved.


Ok. But we did non-commercial flights to space for decades. This is how we learn.


The government does non-commercial underwater research just like it did space flight. If you want to do that research and have government involvement in diagnosing your screwups, go to work for the government. If you want freedom from the constraints of government, investigate your own accidents.

Actually “accident” implies unpredictability, so it’s a misused word here. This was so predictable that the CEO had fired someone for predicting it.


ALL OF THIS but especially the bold.
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Anonymous wrote:I disagree that this isn't a traumatizing story. Obviously levels of trauma vary significantly and many many people are able to read (and even laugh ) about it without feeling any personal impact. But this is really tough to know about for "deep feeling" people, and it absolutely has a negative collective impact on mental health.

I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public. It's horrifying and I hope they are able to be saved. I can't imagine what their families are going through.


If you're traumatized, please turn off your phone and computer and talk to your spouse, pet your dog/cat, have some tea. There's no need to hurt yourself following this story. What will be will be, with or without you.
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I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public.


I guess you feel the titanic victims themselves should have been billed for their rescue.
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Anonymous wrote:I am like addicted to this story….

As a fan of the Titanic, I am hoping for a miracle that somehow these five people are able to survive + be recovered in time.

I know the chance of this occurring is very slim at best - however until the oxygen is due to run out, for the sake of their loved ones I am hoping for the best outcome.

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What is so annoying seeing online is that one of the people in the sub, a billionaire…..has a stepson who is posting pictures online which are clearly insensitive to say the least.

One showed him attending a Blink 182 concert over the wknd while today he posted a thirst trap photo of an OnlyFans model.

It is very clear that this stepson is already counting on his upcoming inheritance. 😠

So sick.
And disgusting too.


He is being so insensitive that rapper Cardi B even made a comment about him online today.


Looking at his photo, I’d venture to guess he may be neuro divergent. I’d hesitate to go after him for not having the expected reaction. I vote for giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't a military sub assist?


How? A “normal” sub cannot dive that deep. And if there are military subs that can and do, I don’t think their governments would want that publicly known.


Military subs can descend to 3000ft. These guys are 12000fy below.

If you think its as simple as sending down a sub to scoop up the capsule or tether a sonar beacon to a submarine and drag it around hoping to detect a ping, then I have a bridge to sell to you.

It would be like flying a kite to catch a space shuttle.


How can a military sub only go to 3000 feet, but these capsules can go to 12,000? Just wondering why the technology is so different.


I don't know, why can't commercial airplanes go to space?


Because we can't send orcas to rescue them. Orcas can't fly.


Bingo
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I feel bad for the kid. I also think it's a shame to lose Nargeolet, who seems like an incredible person. Though he'd been down there dozens of times before and probably only had to look at that tin can to know he wouldn't be coming back. I imagine that he'd want to die in the Ocean.
The two rich dudes? I'm sad for their families.
The CEO can rot.
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I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public.


I guess you feel the titanic victims themselves should have been billed for their rescue.


Traveling via a normal mode of transportation is not a vanity project, so no.

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