Airplane noise concerns overblown?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No part of Alexandria is unincorporated.

It’s in the part of unincorporated Fairfax county that has an Alexandria mailing address.


Fourth generation Alexandrian here. You are wrong.

Fort Hunt / Mount Vernon are Alexandria — always have been always will be. Therefore they are the part of Alexandria that is unincorporated, i.e. not in the city limits.

No one from Alexandria says that Fort Hunt is “in the part of unincorporated Fairfax county that has an Alexandria mailing address” — it’s just Alexandria.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is interesting about the changes in flight paths that this group spearheaded for Mount Vernon and Accokeek.

https://www.flyreagan.com/sites/flyreagan.com/files/2025-10/DCA%20Community%20Working%20Group%20Recommendation%2030%20Revision%202.pdf

The is no benefit for Mount Vernon. Quite the opposite. Alexandria is the only place that benefits from these changes.


Are you slow? Page 8 quite literally shows that the flight path in north flow is being shifted from straight through Mount Vernon, to between Belvoir and Mason Neck. Mount Vernon therefore gets completely avoided in North flow.

Also Mount Vernon is part of the unincorporated part of Alexandria.


North flow arrivals were never a problem for Mount Vernon.The noise from south flow departures is much greater. The airplanes departing DCA will now go all the way to Mount Vernon. They used to turn over Alexandria. They will now turn west over Mount Vernon. This change is being spearheaded by Alexandria.

You must be one of those people who calls us slow, deranged or OCD and tried to spin things. You must be on the Community Working Group at DCA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting about the changes in flight paths that this group spearheaded for Mount Vernon and Accokeek.

https://www.flyreagan.com/sites/flyreagan.com/files/2025-10/DCA%20Community%20Working%20Group%20Recommendation%2030%20Revision%202.pdf

The is no benefit for Mount Vernon. Quite the opposite. Alexandria is the only place that benefits from these changes.


Are you slow? Page 8 quite literally shows that the flight path in north flow is being shifted from straight through Mount Vernon, to between Belvoir and Mason Neck. Mount Vernon therefore gets completely avoided in North flow.

Also Mount Vernon is part of the unincorporated part of Alexandria.


North flow arrivals were never a problem for Mount Vernon.The noise from south flow departures is much greater. The airplanes departing DCA will now go all the way to Mount Vernon. They used to turn over Alexandria. They will now turn west over Mount Vernon. This change is being spearheaded by Alexandria.

You must be one of those people who calls us slow, deranged or OCD and tried to spin things. You must be on the Community Working Group at DCA.


That person calling you slow was highly unnecessary. That being said, my brother in Christ you are painfully uninformed. Please see the attached link which depicts North Flow arrivals:

https://www.flyreagan.com/sites/flyreagan.com/files/legacyfiles/dca_north_flow_regional_05aug2015_hoch_18aug2015_1.pdf


The flight path quite literally goes directly through Mount Vernon. After heading south east, slightly past Kingstowne the flight path jogs straight down through Mount Vernon. It goes through Huntley Meadows, then through Woodlawn, then crosses Route 1, then over Mount Vernon Country Club and Geist Mill Park, and then hits Dogue Creek before continuing south to the Maryland.

I’m not going to argue with you, as this this isn’t up for debate — It is quite literally a fact that it goes directly Mount Vernon.

As far as how much noise Mount Vernon experiences — this is more subjective, but I can tell you that in my opinion it can be significant directly under the North Flow path.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting about the changes in flight paths that this group spearheaded for Mount Vernon and Accokeek.

https://www.flyreagan.com/sites/flyreagan.com/files/2025-10/DCA%20Community%20Working%20Group%20Recommendation%2030%20Revision%202.pdf

The is no benefit for Mount Vernon. Quite the opposite. Alexandria is the only place that benefits from these changes.


Are you slow? Page 8 quite literally shows that the flight path in north flow is being shifted from straight through Mount Vernon, to between Belvoir and Mason Neck. Mount Vernon therefore gets completely avoided in North flow.

Also Mount Vernon is part of the unincorporated part of Alexandria.


North flow arrivals were never a problem for Mount Vernon.The noise from south flow departures is much greater. The airplanes departing DCA will now go all the way to Mount Vernon. They used to turn over Alexandria. They will now turn west over Mount Vernon. This change is being spearheaded by Alexandria.

You must be one of those people who calls us slow, deranged or OCD and tried to spin things. You must be on the Community Working Group at DCA.


That person calling you slow was highly unnecessary. That being said, my brother in Christ you are painfully uninformed. Please see the attached link which depicts North Flow arrivals:

https://www.flyreagan.com/sites/flyreagan.com/files/legacyfiles/dca_north_flow_regional_05aug2015_hoch_18aug2015_1.pdf


The flight path quite literally goes directly through Mount Vernon. After heading south east, slightly past Kingstowne the flight path jogs straight down through Mount Vernon. It goes through Huntley Meadows, then through Woodlawn, then crosses Route 1, then over Mount Vernon Country Club and Geist Mill Park, and then hits Dogue Creek before continuing south to the Maryland.

I’m not going to argue with you, as this this isn’t up for debate — It is quite literally a fact that it goes directly Mount Vernon.

As far as how much noise Mount Vernon experiences — this is more subjective, but I can tell you that in my opinion it can be significant directly under the North Flow path.


You are partly correct. The flight path to the south goes through Huntley Meadows which is technically Alexandria not Mount Vernon. The new flight path will not turn to the west over Huntley Meadows but will proceed further south and will turn west just past Fort Hunt and all the historical buildings in Mount Vernon.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting about the changes in flight paths that this group spearheaded for Mount Vernon and Accokeek.

https://www.flyreagan.com/sites/flyreagan.com/files/2025-10/DCA%20Community%20Working%20Group%20Recommendation%2030%20Revision%202.pdf

The is no benefit for Mount Vernon. Quite the opposite. Alexandria is the only place that benefits from these changes.


Are you slow? Page 8 quite literally shows that the flight path in north flow is being shifted from straight through Mount Vernon, to between Belvoir and Mason Neck. Mount Vernon therefore gets completely avoided in North flow.

Also Mount Vernon is part of the unincorporated part of Alexandria.


North flow arrivals were never a problem for Mount Vernon.The noise from south flow departures is much greater. The airplanes departing DCA will now go all the way to Mount Vernon. They used to turn over Alexandria. They will now turn west over Mount Vernon. This change is being spearheaded by Alexandria.

You must be one of those people who calls us slow, deranged or OCD and tried to spin things. You must be on the Community Working Group at DCA.


That person calling you slow was highly unnecessary. That being said, my brother in Christ you are painfully uninformed. Please see the attached link which depicts North Flow arrivals:

https://www.flyreagan.com/sites/flyreagan.com/files/legacyfiles/dca_north_flow_regional_05aug2015_hoch_18aug2015_1.pdf


The flight path quite literally goes directly through Mount Vernon. After heading south east, slightly past Kingstowne the flight path jogs straight down through Mount Vernon. It goes through Huntley Meadows, then through Woodlawn, then crosses Route 1, then over Mount Vernon Country Club and Geist Mill Park, and then hits Dogue Creek before continuing south to the Maryland.

I’m not going to argue with you, as this this isn’t up for debate — It is quite literally a fact that it goes directly Mount Vernon.

As far as how much noise Mount Vernon experiences — this is more subjective, but I can tell you that in my opinion it can be significant directly under the North Flow path.


You are partly correct. The flight path to the south goes through Huntley Meadows which is technically Alexandria not Mount Vernon. The new flight path will not turn to the west over Huntley Meadows but will proceed further south and will turn west just past Fort Hunt and all the historical buildings in Mount Vernon.


I think you are confusing South Flow departures with north flow arrivals.

The blue lines in the above link shows that north flow arrivals CURRENTLY go through Mount Vernon / Dogue Creek. The proposed change will shift north flow arrivals to skip Mount Vernon all together by jogging south earlier, and making contact with the water between Mason Neck and Fort Belvoir. This is not in effect yet but is likely to pass.

The south flow arrivals change you are referring to is correct — assuming this passes, as you said “ new flight path will not turn to the west over Huntley Meadows but will proceed further south and will turn west just past Fort Hunt and all the historical buildings in Mount Vernon” BUT this is only for 40% of flights. The remaining 60% of south flow departures will continue cutting through the fort hunt neighborhoods. All of this information can be found on Vianair’s South of the Airport study website, as well as on the community working group’s website.

Hope this is helpful.
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