Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

I feel really hopeless over this conflict and how people on each ideological side seem to be so certain that they have the moral high ground. It all is so sad and hopeless.

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Anonymous wrote:No cease fire until all hostages are released. I think we should stop aid as well. No moral confusion for me. Until hostages are released, Hamas should get nothing. Nothing!

What about the 2.5M people that are not Hamas? Aid for them?

Nope. Those people elected Hamas. No one here would be so worried about Maga’s plight if Trump went crazy. We’d all say they deserved it for voting maga. So why do I care about other radicals who elected crazy people and now are suffering. They are raping and torturing people they kidnapped.

And there you have it. 50% of current Palestinians wernt even alive or of voting age in 2005 but they can all die. That’s the real israeli perspective. Craven and despicable.

It’s like blaming America in 2024 for electing Ronald Regan

It IS Israel’s problem. It is not our problem. BUT Israel is our ally and they were attacked. So we should stand with Israel. No aid to Gaza. No talk of ceasefire by US. Not our lane.

Intentionally starving people is not an American value.

Well maybe they should have not attacked Israelis. Terrorist move.

Did we starve Jews for leading us to Iraq ? Did we starve Muslims for 9/11?


Bad actors exist everywhere but we should never punish entire groups of people for the actions of a few.

Starve Jews for leading us to Iraq? Wtf kind of blood libel are you spewing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The first DCUM forum I was on over ten years ago was the Infertility support forum. The story of this woman, who had twin babies after three rounds of IVF and 10 years of trying to start a family, particularly touched me.

Both her babies, who were 4 months old, her husband, sister, nephew, and other relatives were killed in a bombing in Rafah on Saturday.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-children-twins-killed-gaza-25282b273b92aec7fc75c3212f8d8e3f

That’s especially sad. You really cherish your children more when you work so hard to get them.

I would want to be dead if I lost my family in seconds like that .

I really think suicide bombings will come back to Israel if grief counseling and other options are not available. So many people are focused on the physical needs only like food and water and shelter but war creates psychological trauma. The Israeli hostages will have free therapy for life and are already in the processes of recovery but who will be there for the Palestinians who are suffering mentally from this war?

That’s because israel has normal societal values and priortiizes their citizens well being.

I can tell you who doesn’t care about Palestinian psychological trauma: Hamas. Tortured Palestinians only perpetuate their cause and PR. Hamas for two decades has siphoned away aid and resources into building an extensive terrorism network.

the whole thing is f**cked.

[Anonymous]

Indeed beyond sad. The whole world just looks on - utterly depressing ugh. But you know this is the story of ME. For both Israel really and Palestine. It will always be someone on either side hurt. But I will say that this time around, it's beyond words.

The people here who keep harping Hamas created this current situation will go to H. They surely will because they are for killing the innocent and that is never ever just. Ultimately I feel that the pain just transfers depending on time between both people. I fear that one day this immense pain felt by Arabs will undoubtedly bounce back to Israel. Maybe even US and the world for allowing this to even happen.

This is a dark time when you really lose faith that there is a higher power really. I would suggest this is Palestines holocaust. Seriously. Hamas may have started it but what Israel is doing is genocide of a people pure and simple which the US has assisted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The first DCUM forum I was on over ten years ago was the Infertility support forum. The story of this woman, who had twin babies after three rounds of IVF and 10 years of trying to start a family, particularly touched me.

Both her babies, who were 4 months old, her husband, sister, nephew, and other relatives were killed in a bombing in Rafah on Saturday.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-children-twins-killed-gaza-25282b273b92aec7fc75c3212f8d8e3f

That’s especially sad. You really cherish your children more when you work so hard to get them.

I would want to be dead if I lost my family in seconds like that .

I really think suicide bombings will come back to Israel if grief counseling and other options are not available. So many people are focused on the physical needs only like food and water and shelter but war creates psychological trauma. The Israeli hostages will have free therapy for life and are already in the processes of recovery but who will be there for the Palestinians who are suffering mentally from this war?

That’s because israel has normal societal values and priortiizes their citizens well being.

I can tell you who doesn’t care about Palestinian psychological trauma: Hamas. Tortured Palestinians only perpetuate their cause and PR. Hamas for two decades has siphoned away aid and resources into building an extensive terrorism network.

the whole thing is f**cked.

Israel is intentionally starving 1.5 million people right now. Those are not normal societal values. I'd like to think that it's just the 10% that are straight up Jewish Supremacists that are doing this BUT the silence is deafening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Indeed beyond sad. The whole world just looks on - utterly depressing ugh. But you know this is the story of ME. For both Israel really and Palestine. It will always be someone on either side hurt. But I will say that this time around, it's beyond words.

The people here who keep harping Hamas created this current situation will go to H. They surely will because they are for killing the innocent and that is never ever just. Ultimately I feel that the pain just transfers depending on time between both people. I fear that one day this immense pain felt by Arabs will undoubtedly bounce back to Israel. Maybe even US and the world for allowing this to even happen.

This is a dark time when you really lose faith that there is a higher power really. I would suggest this is Palestines holocaust. Seriously. Hamas may have started it but what Israel is doing is genocide of a people pure and simple which the US has assisted.

Hamas is not innocent. They should end this by surrendering.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. The mental heath trauma of the Palestinians will be enormous. There is growing focus on trauma informed therapies and community building to end the cycle of violence in the US and it all starts from a place of love and understanding. The Israeli mindset is not there so I am sure that love and understanding will not be on offer.

With all that trauma they should be learning the lesson that it's not worthwhile to launch a massacre attack on people like they did on October 7th. There isn't any other positive lesson to be learned from it.

The Palestinian people there are the first hostages by Hamas just like the Israelis. Why are you blaming the Palestinians in Gaza ? Ultimately both peoples are unsafe because their governments are failures who failed to protect their people

They started out as free people. They ended up hostages by refusing to allow the existence of Israel and repeatedly attacking and trying to exterminate the Jews. And each time they did, they lost more territory and freedom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. The mental heath trauma of the Palestinians will be enormous. There is growing focus on trauma informed therapies and community building to end the cycle of violence in the US and it all starts from a place of love and understanding. The Israeli mindset is not there so I am sure that love and understanding will not be on offer.

With all that trauma they should be learning the lesson that it's not worthwhile to launch a massacre attack on people like they did on October 7th. There isn't any other positive lesson to be learned from it.

The Palestinian people there are the first hostages by Hamas just like the Israelis. Why are you blaming the Palestinians in Gaza ? Ultimately both peoples are unsafe because their governments are failures who failed to protect their people

They started out as free people. They ended up hostages by refusing to allow the existence of Israel and repeatedly attacking and trying to exterminate the Jews. And each time they did, they lost more territory and freedom.

How many Saturdays did Gazans disturb in Israel? Israel wouldn’t be a safe haven if Palestinians were hyper violent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Indeed beyond sad. The whole world just looks on - utterly depressing ugh. But you know this is the story of ME. For both Israel really and Palestine. It will always be someone on either side hurt. But I will say that this time around, it's beyond words.

The people here who keep harping Hamas created this current situation will go to H. They surely will because they are for killing the innocent and that is never ever just. Ultimately I feel that the pain just transfers depending on time between both people. I fear that one day this immense pain felt by Arabs will undoubtedly bounce back to Israel. Maybe even US and the world for allowing this to even happen.

This is a dark time when you really lose faith that there is a higher power really. I would suggest this is Palestines holocaust. Seriously. Hamas may have started it but what Israel is doing is genocide of a people pure and simple which the US has assisted.

All Hamas needs to do is release the remaining 130 hostages - children, women, the elderly, and the young men they took. Or at least those that are still alive. And then there is an immediate six week ceasefire when aid can safely be brought in to relieve some of the despair Palestinians are enduring. And six weeks is long enough to figure out how to move forward and end this nightmare.

But Hamas won't release the hostages. They don't want the world to know what they've done to them. And they very much want the bloodshed. Sinwar has already said he's going to ramp things up even further over Ramadan. Hamas wants Palestinians to suffer and die. They are a death cult. They believe they are martyrs who will be eternally rewarded in Heaven. And they think that by causing so much death and destruction the world will turn on Israel and hasten its destruction.

Kind of difficult to reason with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Amos Hochstein, special envoy from President Biden, is in Lebanon to help find a "diplomatic solution" to the Israeli - Hezbollah conflict.

Completely serious question: As Americans, are we just completely oblivious to how outrageously comical it seems that the only people we send to the Middle East to broker peace happen to be Jewish? This guy is an Israeli-American businessman, diplomat, and former lobbyist, per his profile. Really?

Every person we put on ME diplomatic duty seems to be Jewish. Are we for real? I mean, seriously? Are we for real? Do we think it doesn't seem offensive and outrageous to the people we're trying to coax into a deal?

How would everyone feel if we sent Rashida Tlaib over to the ME with full U.S. authority to force a long-term settlement between Israel and the Palestinians? But the Palestinians and Lebanese are supposed to be A-OK that the U.S. is being represented by an Israeli with full U.S. authority to broker peace?

This is like a fever dream. What is going on???

It's just a comical as Kamala's recent ceasefire call.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. The mental heath trauma of the Palestinians will be enormous. There is growing focus on trauma informed therapies and community building to end the cycle of violence in the US and it all starts from a place of love and understanding. The Israeli mindset is not there so I am sure that love and understanding will not be on offer.

With all that trauma they should be learning the lesson that it's not worthwhile to launch a massacre attack on people like they did on October 7th. There isn't any other positive lesson to be learned from it.

The Palestinian people there are the first hostages by Hamas just like the Israelis. Why are you blaming the Palestinians in Gaza ? Ultimately both peoples are unsafe because their governments are failures who failed to protect their people

They started out as free people. They ended up hostages by refusing to allow the existence of Israel and repeatedly attacking and trying to exterminate the Jews. And each time they did, they lost more territory and freedom.

And now they're Israels hostages. Israel is starving the civilians in Gaza in order to put political pressure on Hamas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amos Hochstein, special envoy from President Biden, is in Lebanon to help find a "diplomatic solution" to the Israeli - Hezbollah conflict.

Completely serious question: As Americans, are we just completely oblivious to how outrageously comical it seems that the only people we send to the Middle East to broker peace happen to be Jewish? This guy is an Israeli-American businessman, diplomat, and former lobbyist, per his profile. Really?

Every person we put on ME diplomatic duty seems to be Jewish. Are we for real? I mean, seriously? Are we for real? Do we think it doesn't seem offensive and outrageous to the people we're trying to coax into a deal?

How would everyone feel if we sent Rashida Tlaib over to the ME with full U.S. authority to force a long-term settlement between Israel and the Palestinians? But the Palestinians and Lebanese are supposed to be A-OK that the U.S. is being represented by an Israeli with full U.S. authority to broker peace?

This is like a fever dream. What is going on???

It's just a comical as Kamala's recent ceasefire call.

Well we wouldn’t feel good, because Tlaib is a moron

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Indeed beyond sad. The whole world just looks on - utterly depressing ugh. But you know this is the story of ME. For both Israel really and Palestine. It will always be someone on either side hurt. But I will say that this time around, it's beyond words.

The people here who keep harping Hamas created this current situation will go to H. They surely will because they are for killing the innocent and that is never ever just. Ultimately I feel that the pain just transfers depending on time between both people. I fear that one day this immense pain felt by Arabs will undoubtedly bounce back to Israel. Maybe even US and the world for allowing this to even happen.

This is a dark time when you really lose faith that there is a higher power really. I would suggest this is Palestines holocaust. Seriously. Hamas may have started it but what Israel is doing is genocide of a people pure and simple which the US has assisted.

All Hamas needs to do is release the remaining 130 hostages - children, women, the elderly, and the young men they took. Or at least those that are still alive. And then there is an immediate six week ceasefire when aid can safely be brought in to relieve some of the despair Palestinians are enduring. And six weeks is long enough to figure out how to move forward and end this nightmare.

But Hamas won't release the hostages. They don't want the world to know what they've done to them. And they very much want the bloodshed. Sinwar has already said he's going to ramp things up even further over Ramadan. Hamas wants Palestinians to suffer and die. They are a death cult. They believe they are martyrs who will be eternally rewarded in Heaven. And they think that by causing so much death and destruction the world will turn on Israel and hasten its destruction.

Kind of difficult to reason with that.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. The mental heath trauma of the Palestinians will be enormous. There is growing focus on trauma informed therapies and community building to end the cycle of violence in the US and it all starts from a place of love and understanding. The Israeli mindset is not there so I am sure that love and understanding will not be on offer.

With all that trauma they should be learning the lesson that it's not worthwhile to launch a massacre attack on people like they did on October 7th. There isn't any other positive lesson to be learned from it.

The Palestinian people there are the first hostages by Hamas just like the Israelis. Why are you blaming the Palestinians in Gaza ? Ultimately both peoples are unsafe because their governments are failures who failed to protect their people

They started out as free people. They ended up hostages by refusing to allow the existence of Israel and repeatedly attacking and trying to exterminate the Jews. And each time they did, they lost more territory and freedom.

And now they're Israels hostages. Israel is starving the civilians in Gaza in order to put political pressure on Hamas.

And it seems Hamas is even worse than Israel because they are showing they don't care if the people of Palestine starve. All the more reason Hamas needs to be eliminated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. The mental heath trauma of the Palestinians will be enormous. There is growing focus on trauma informed therapies and community building to end the cycle of violence in the US and it all starts from a place of love and understanding. The Israeli mindset is not there so I am sure that love and understanding will not be on offer.

With all that trauma they should be learning the lesson that it's not worthwhile to launch a massacre attack on people like they did on October 7th. There isn't any other positive lesson to be learned from it.

The Palestinian people there are the first hostages by Hamas just like the Israelis. Why are you blaming the Palestinians in Gaza ? Ultimately both peoples are unsafe because their governments are failures who failed to protect their people

They started out as free people. They ended up hostages by refusing to allow the existence of Israel and repeatedly attacking and trying to exterminate the Jews. And each time they did, they lost more territory and freedom.

How many Saturdays did Gazans disturb in Israel? Israel wouldn’t be a safe haven if Palestinians were hyper violent

Yeah sure buddy. Looks like a super super safe place. No violence by Palestinians at all.

Palestinians have been launching THOUSANDS of missiles at Israel a year. Missiles of a type that Hamas's own propagandists claimed were as powerful as a JDAM and capable of killing hundreds of people... when one of their own rockets mistakenly hit a hospital in Gaza. Were it not for the Iron Dome, thousands of Israelis would be getting killed every year. The fact that Israel has largely been successfully defending themselves against constant attacks does not make Palestine any less violent.