Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Amos Hochstein, special envoy from President Biden, is in Lebanon to help find a "diplomatic solution" to the Israeli - Hezbollah conflict.

Completely serious question: As Americans, are we just completely oblivious to how outrageously comical it seems that the only people we send to the Middle East to broker peace happen to be Jewish? This guy is an Israeli-American businessman, diplomat, and former lobbyist, per his profile. Really?

Every person we put on ME diplomatic duty seems to be Jewish. Are we for real? I mean, seriously? Are we for real? Do we think it doesn't seem offensive and outrageous to the people we're trying to coax into a deal?

How would everyone feel if we sent Rashida Tlaib over to the ME with full U.S. authority to force a long-term settlement between Israel and the Palestinians? But the Palestinians and Lebanese are supposed to be A-OK that the U.S. is being represented by an Israeli with full U.S. authority to broker peace?

This is like a fever dream. What is going on???

I don't think being Jewish should disqualify you. But apparently Hoschstein was born in Israel, is a dual citizen, and served in the IDF. So that I think would make him appear to be biased.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No cease fire until all hostages are released. I think we should stop aid as well. No moral confusion for me. Until hostages are released, Hamas should get nothing. Nothing!

Hams doesn’t care about food to Gaza. They are not the beneficiaries. The people of Gaza are (50% of them are children). Geez

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amos Hochstein, special envoy from President Biden, is in Lebanon to help find a "diplomatic solution" to the Israeli - Hezbollah conflict.

Completely serious question: As Americans, are we just completely oblivious to how outrageously comical it seems that the only people we send to the Middle East to broker peace happen to be Jewish? This guy is an Israeli-American businessman, diplomat, and former lobbyist, per his profile. Really?

Every person we put on ME diplomatic duty seems to be Jewish. Are we for real? I mean, seriously? Are we for real? Do we think it doesn't seem offensive and outrageous to the people we're trying to coax into a deal?

How would everyone feel if we sent Rashida Tlaib over to the ME with full U.S. authority to force a long-term settlement between Israel and the Palestinians? But the Palestinians and Lebanese are supposed to be A-OK that the U.S. is being represented by an Israeli with full U.S. authority to broker peace?

This is like a fever dream. What is going on???

I don't think being Jewish should disqualify you. But apparently Hoschstein was born in Israel, is a dual citizen, and served in the IDF. So that I think would make him appear to be biased.

I'm NOT saying that being Jewish should disqualify anyone. I AM saying that being Jewish shouldn't be a requirement, which very much appears to be the case. I cannot think of any diplomat the U.S. has dispatched to the region that WASN'T / ISN'T Jewish. We're talking dozens of individuals over the past 30 - 40 years.

For a group that is 2-3% of the population, nobody finds that odd?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amos Hochstein, special envoy from President Biden, is in Lebanon to help find a "diplomatic solution" to the Israeli - Hezbollah conflict.

Completely serious question: As Americans, are we just completely oblivious to how outrageously comical it seems that the only people we send to the Middle East to broker peace happen to be Jewish? This guy is an Israeli-American businessman, diplomat, and former lobbyist, per his profile. Really?

Every person we put on ME diplomatic duty seems to be Jewish. Are we for real? I mean, seriously? Are we for real? Do we think it doesn't seem offensive and outrageous to the people we're trying to coax into a deal?

How would everyone feel if we sent Rashida Tlaib over to the ME with full U.S. authority to force a long-term settlement between Israel and the Palestinians? But the Palestinians and Lebanese are supposed to be A-OK that the U.S. is being represented by an Israeli with full U.S. authority to broker peace?

This is like a fever dream. What is going on???

I don't think being Jewish should disqualify you. But apparently Hoschstein was born in Israel, is a dual citizen, and served in the IDF. So that I think would make him appear to be biased.

I'm NOT saying that being Jewish should disqualify anyone. I AM saying that being Jewish shouldn't be a requirement, which very much appears to be the case. I cannot think of any diplomat the U.S. has dispatched to the region that WASN'T / ISN'T Jewish. We're talking dozens of individuals over the past 30 - 40 years.

For a group that is 2-3% of the population, nobody finds that odd?

It's not been quite that bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No cease fire until all hostages are released. I think we should stop aid as well. No moral confusion for me. Until hostages are released, Hamas should get nothing. Nothing!

What about the 2.5M people that are not Hamas? Aid for them?

Nope. Those people elected Hamas. No one here would be so worried about Maga’s plight if Trump went crazy. We’d all say they deserved it for voting maga. So why do I care about other radicals who elected crazy people and now are suffering. They are raping and torturing people they kidnapped.

And there you have it. 50% of current Palestinians wernt even alive or of voting age in 2005 but they can all die. That’s the real israeli perspective. Craven and despicable.

It’s like blaming America in 2024 for electing Ronald Regan

It IS Israel’s problem. It is not our problem. BUT Israel is our ally and they were attacked. So we should stand with Israel. No aid to Gaza. No talk of ceasefire by US. Not our lane.

Intentionally starving people is not an American value.

Well maybe they should have not attacked Israelis. Terrorist move.

Did we starve Jews for leading us to Iraq ? Did we starve Muslims for 9/11?


Bad actors exist everywhere but we should never punish entire groups of people for the actions of a few.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The first DCUM forum I was on over ten years ago was the Infertility support forum. The story of this woman, who had twin babies after three rounds of IVF and 10 years of trying to start a family, particularly touched me.

Both her babies, who were 4 months old, her husband, sister, nephew, and other relatives were killed in a bombing in Rafah on Saturday.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-children-twins-killed-gaza-25282b273b92aec7fc75c3212f8d8e3f

That’s especially sad. You really cherish your children more when you work so hard to get them.

I would want to be dead if I lost my family in seconds like that .

I really think suicide bombings will come back to Israel if grief counseling and other options are not available. So many people are focused on the physical needs only like food and water and shelter but war creates psychological trauma. The Israeli hostages will have free therapy for life and are already in the processes of recovery but who will be there for the Palestinians who are suffering mentally from this war?

[Anonymous]

Yes. The mental heath trauma of the Palestinians will be enormous. There is growing focus on trauma informed therapies and community building to end the cycle of violence in the US and it all starts from a place of love and understanding. The Israeli mindset is not there so I am sure that love and understanding will not be on offer.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. The mental heath trauma of the Palestinians will be enormous. There is growing focus on trauma informed therapies and community building to end the cycle of violence in the US and it all starts from a place of love and understanding. The Israeli mindset is not there so I am sure that love and understanding will not be on offer.

With all that trauma they should be learning the lesson that it's not worthwhile to launch a massacre attack on people like they did on October 7th. There isn't any other positive lesson to be learned from it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. The mental heath trauma of the Palestinians will be enormous. There is growing focus on trauma informed therapies and community building to end the cycle of violence in the US and it all starts from a place of love and understanding. The Israeli mindset is not there so I am sure that love and understanding will not be on offer.

With all that trauma they should be learning the lesson that it's not worthwhile to launch a massacre attack on people like they did on October 7th. There isn't any other positive lesson to be learned from it.

You again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Had to be pretty bad when even the UN is admitting it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. The mental heath trauma of the Palestinians will be enormous. There is growing focus on trauma informed therapies and community building to end the cycle of violence in the US and it all starts from a place of love and understanding. The Israeli mindset is not there so I am sure that love and understanding will not be on offer.

With all that trauma they should be learning the lesson that it's not worthwhile to launch a massacre attack on people like they did on October 7th. There isn't any other positive lesson to be learned from it.

You again?

What's your problem? You're unhappy that someone is pointing out that it is should not be used to radicalize future Palestinians and that pursuing another horrific massacre will not result in an outcome that is somehow different than what we have seen in these recent months? Is your problem that this rational and sensible view interferes with an agenda of radicalizing Palestinians? Or what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. The mental heath trauma of the Palestinians will be enormous. There is growing focus on trauma informed therapies and community building to end the cycle of violence in the US and it all starts from a place of love and understanding. The Israeli mindset is not there so I am sure that love and understanding will not be on offer.

With all that trauma they should be learning the lesson that it's not worthwhile to launch a massacre attack on people like they did on October 7th. There isn't any other positive lesson to be learned from it.

The Palestinian people there are the first hostages by Hamas just like the Israelis. Why are you blaming the Palestinians in Gaza ? Ultimately both peoples are unsafe because their governments are failures who failed to protect their people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So Hamas has no idea where their prisoners are or who has died..... The US has tried to broker a peace treaty and ceasefire..... We just air dropped a bunch of supplies to the Palestinians...... Yet I haven't heard anyone come out and praise Biden or any of this...... Or condemn Hamas.

Biden is the president of the United States, a whole separate entity and nation from Israel- its Israel's separate government that is deliberately starving people but then again- they'd probably make like the Japanese and put anthrax into food if they air dropped it and then reference WW2 era battle tactics as the rules if engagement 75 years later so thank God. Israel doest get credit for anything that the US does, the Us does get blame for what the Israelis do though since we pay for everything and supply the weapons.

[Anonymous]

Pro Israel posters can’t even make up their minds on whether the Gazans are victims of Hamas or partners with Hamas . Is Hamas executing them in hospitals and outside when looking for food aid, are they human shields sheltering with Hamas? Is Hamas stealing food aid for their tunnels or don’t they shelter with civilians?

Anything to justify the dehumanization and genocide “Oh, they are part of Hamas “. They delusionally think Israel’s over aggression is teaching Palestinians in Gaza a lesson.

If it hasn’t worked the last few wars in Gaza, what makes them think it will work this time? And even if they did carpet bomb the entire Gaza, there is still the West Bank, Palestinians in Israel, and Jordan to deal with as well as the greater Arab and Islamic world, and a huge Palestinian diaspora in the West .

They don’t gain anything from starving and massively bombing the way they are . It doesn’t scratch the tunnels and Israelis that are hostage are probably starving and dying in large numbers as well as they are Gazan citizens for right now