I am voting none of the above deal with it. However do not be fooled by polls. Trump is currently at 42% among R voters. Normally that is an insurmountable lead. However once the four-five (do we need to count Chris C?) drop out leaving a Desantis or Haley or maybe another candidate to consolidate the rest of the vote, they could overtake this lead. Trump has a very passionate and solid 42% but is he really gaining people that do not currently support him? I think he is so polarizing that this is not the normal majority lead. |
If Trump weren't the nominee, Biden would have to drop out to give the Dems a chance and then we could possibly have two viable candidates on the GOP and Dem party tickets. How refreshing that would be?! Just hope the GOP nominee is someone other than Desantis and of course Trump. |
Dream on. The GOP is on track to nominate their hero. I mean he shoved a woman against the wall and groped her and then he shoved the rest of them back 50 years regarding their basic rights. What is not to like? This is the man they want to represent them and their families. |
If Biden truly plans to stay in the race, I hope Trump is nominated by the GOP because Trump is the only candidate Biden would have a legitimate chance of beating. Still though, sad for America if it comes down to those two again. |
Why are you not understanding that Biden was specifically chosen because he could beat trump in the few swing states that count. America schmica. A few swing states control this outcome. |
Exactly and it worked in 2020. Now we need to find someone else that is guaranteed to win those swings states in 2024. Biden does not provide that guarantee but it would be easy find someone who could. We can't risk losing to Trump due to laziness. |
Imo don't mess with success. Trump has only done more horrible things since 2020 to drive away voters. |
Ok, and who will you blame when we lose to the most beatable candidate in our history? The media? MAGA idiots? People in Michigan? People in Pennsylvania? Kamala? Jill?.... no, we'll all bear the burden of blame for not seeing the clear and obvious writing on the wall. Biden was an asset in 2020. He is a liability in 2024. A second grader could figure this out. |
Third party candidates running to split off votes from the opposition that can't attract votes to win otherwise comes to mind. |
Manchin would not be running to be a spoiler; he would try to win. However, if it became obvious by October 2024 that he was unlikely to win, he could drop out and endorse Biden. His name would still be on the ballot but he would not get many votes.
If, on the other hand, Biden is continuing to struggle and is not likely to keep his coalition in place for 2024, he should drop out and endorse Manchin. Manchin is an insurance policy against Trump. |
Ridiculous. A third party candidate winning is nonsense and manchin and everyone else knows it. He runs so he can trash trump and trash Biden and then backs out late in the game to endorse Biden? That just accomplishes a whole lot of nothing. That makes no sense as the agenda. |
So you think all the Democrats should vote for the man who almost single-handedly screwed up the Democrats’ agenda? And that’s your serious, actual hot take for a viable alternative to President Biden. Seriously. |
So you think women's health won't trump subjugation that every GOP candidate supports? |
He knows that damaging Biden in a campaign helps Trump. He won't run. |
What you are missing....Biden is a mostly unifying candidate. If he is not running then the Dems would have to have a primary, or "party bosses" would have to pick someone at the convention. Do they go with a progressive and alienate the center? Do they go with a centrist and alienate the far left? Why open up the party to the "dems in disarray" narrative? Totally unnecessasry and raises more potential to open the door for Trump or an Evangelical fascist. |