Mother of 2 from VERY prominent Richmond family arrested by FBI for child p@rn, exploitation, etc

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM needs a true crime subforum

Yes! I have started then not posted threads many times because I didn’t feel right posting it in any specific area.

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Anonymous wrote:I was trying to imagine what it must be like for her ex and for her young kids right now, especially with Mother's Day coming up and the story having been picked up widely last week.

The Ex is remarried and has custody of the kids.

Yes Divorced in 2021 and already remarried.

They separated in 2018, I think?

Given how seriously ill Eleanor is, I am glad that the kids have another stable adult in their lives, given that their mom has landed herself in PRISON and all.

Read the DM article, it has some of the divorce docs. She was actively soliciting sex with men and women while married and even brought a man back to the marital home when the young kids were home, prior to the split. JOEL is not the problem here. GTFO with that BS. Eleanor is the problem and has been for a long time. There may be partial explanations: mania, possible csa, possible MI, etc but she also had naked sex in a public park in broad daylight in 2019, those docs are linked in the DM story too. Then she seems to have a very detailed and PRACTICED approach to horrific sexual abuse of young kids. Hopefully he picked better in his second marriage. The kids will have both genetic susceptibility to mental illness and possible abuse trauma. The more stability and the more normal adults, the better.

I mean why are you assuming so much here? Why do you assume the dad is blameless and innocent and that he’s a good parent? Why do you assume that his second wife is stable and a good stepparent? I dont get that. Maybe the dad, Joel, is great. Maybe he had no idea what was going on w EHH. But the truth is you don’t know that for a fact and neither do I. If anything, it seems this case should cause us to be less trusting of others and more aware of all the evils of the world. I hope for the kids’ sake that their dad and stepmom are good people, good parents. But I think it’s very bizarre to just blindly assume that they are until we know more about this case. (Which we might never have access to that info)

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Anonymous wrote:I was trying to imagine what it must be like for her ex and for her young kids right now, especially with Mother's Day coming up and the story having been picked up widely last week.

The Ex is remarried and has custody of the kids.

Yes Divorced in 2021 and already remarried.

They separated in 2018, I think?

Given how seriously ill Eleanor is, I am glad that the kids have another stable adult in their lives, given that their mom has landed herself in PRISON and all.

Read the DM article, it has some of the divorce docs. She was actively soliciting sex with men and women while married and even brought a man back to the marital home when the young kids were home, prior to the split. JOEL is not the problem here. GTFO with that BS. Eleanor is the problem and has been for a long time. There may be partial explanations: mania, possible csa, possible MI, etc but she also had naked sex in a public park in broad daylight in 2019, those docs are linked in the DM story too. Then she seems to have a very detailed and PRACTICED approach to horrific sexual abuse of young kids. Hopefully he picked better in his second marriage. The kids will have both genetic susceptibility to mental illness and possible abuse trauma. The more stability and the more normal adults, the better.

I mean why are you assuming so much here? Why do you assume the dad is blameless and innocent and that he’s a good parent? Why do you assume that his second wife is stable and a good stepparent? I dont get that. Maybe the dad, Joel, is great. Maybe he had no idea what was going on w EHH. But the truth is you don’t know that for a fact and neither do I. If anything, it seems this case should cause us to be less trusting of others and more aware of all the evils of the world. I hope for the kids’ sake that their dad and stepmom are good people, good parents. But I think it’s very bizarre to just blindly assume that they are until we know more about this case. (Which we might never have access to that info)

+1 Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM needs a true crime subforum

Yes! I have started then not posted threads many times because I didn’t feel right posting it in any specific area.

Jeff has said no. Look elsewhere. No logins + no mod resources = not a good fit for his platform.

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Anonymous wrote:I was trying to imagine what it must be like for her ex and for her young kids right now, especially with Mother's Day coming up and the story having been picked up widely last week.

The Ex is remarried and has custody of the kids.

Yes Divorced in 2021 and already remarried.

They separated in 2018, I think?

Given how seriously ill Eleanor is, I am glad that the kids have another stable adult in their lives, given that their mom has landed herself in PRISON and all.

Read the DM article, it has some of the divorce docs. She was actively soliciting sex with men and women while married and even brought a man back to the marital home when the young kids were home, prior to the split. JOEL is not the problem here. GTFO with that BS. Eleanor is the problem and has been for a long time. There may be partial explanations: mania, possible csa, possible MI, etc but she also had naked sex in a public park in broad daylight in 2019, those docs are linked in the DM story too. Then she seems to have a very detailed and PRACTICED approach to horrific sexual abuse of young kids. Hopefully he picked better in his second marriage. The kids will have both genetic susceptibility to mental illness and possible abuse trauma. The more stability and the more normal adults, the better.

I mean why are you assuming so much here? Why do you assume the dad is blameless and innocent and that he’s a good parent? Why do you assume that his second wife is stable and a good stepparent? I dont get that. Maybe the dad, Joel, is great. Maybe he had no idea what was going on w EHH. But the truth is you don’t know that for a fact and neither do I. If anything, it seems this case should cause us to be less trusting of others and more aware of all the evils of the world. I hope for the kids’ sake that their dad and stepmom are good people, good parents. But I think it’s very bizarre to just blindly assume that they are until we know more about this case. (Which we might never have access to that info)

+1 Thank you.

It's safe to assume he is LIKELY to be a better parent than ELEANOR. He is the only parent the kids have who is not incarcerated. Focusing on him and the kids in a public forum is gross especially in these circumstances. If you cannot wish the best for those kids in the only hope they have of a stable family and wish to shred THAT rather than focus on the child sex offender, seek help.

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Anonymous wrote:I was trying to imagine what it must be like for her ex and for her young kids right now, especially with Mother's Day coming up and the story having been picked up widely last week.

The Ex is remarried and has custody of the kids.

Yes Divorced in 2021 and already remarried.

They separated in 2018, I think?

Given how seriously ill Eleanor is, I am glad that the kids have another stable adult in their lives, given that their mom has landed herself in PRISON and all.

Read the DM article, it has some of the divorce docs. She was actively soliciting sex with men and women while married and even brought a man back to the marital home when the young kids were home, prior to the split. JOEL is not the problem here. GTFO with that BS. Eleanor is the problem and has been for a long time. There may be partial explanations: mania, possible csa, possible MI, etc but she also had naked sex in a public park in broad daylight in 2019, those docs are linked in the DM story too. Then she seems to have a very detailed and PRACTICED approach to horrific sexual abuse of young kids. Hopefully he picked better in his second marriage. The kids will have both genetic susceptibility to mental illness and possible abuse trauma. The more stability and the more normal adults, the better.

I mean why are you assuming so much here? Why do you assume the dad is blameless and innocent and that he’s a good parent? Why do you assume that his second wife is stable and a good stepparent? I dont get that. Maybe the dad, Joel, is great. Maybe he had no idea what was going on w EHH. But the truth is you don’t know that for a fact and neither do I. If anything, it seems this case should cause us to be less trusting of others and more aware of all the evils of the world. I hope for the kids’ sake that their dad and stepmom are good people, good parents. But I think it’s very bizarre to just blindly assume that they are until we know more about this case. (Which we might never have access to that info)

No one is suggesting that you send your kids, should you have any, over for a sleepover.

Why focus on innocent parties who may be victims and who are private citizens, in a public forum, rather than focus on the child predator?

Since their mother may be in a federal penitentiary until those kids are adults, what is wrong with hoping they have some decent family to raise them? She may have harmed them or other kids known to them. Why shouldn't SHE be the focus? Why should we know about possible crime victims, minors, private citizens? The public documents focus on Eleanor's crimes. If it's too upsetting to focus on that so you start broad brushing, maybe take a break from this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was trying to imagine what it must be like for her ex and for her young kids right now, especially with Mother's Day coming up and the story having been picked up widely last week.

The Ex is remarried and has custody of the kids.

Yes Divorced in 2021 and already remarried.

They separated in 2018, I think?

Given how seriously ill Eleanor is, I am glad that the kids have another stable adult in their lives, given that their mom has landed herself in PRISON and all.

Read the DM article, it has some of the divorce docs. She was actively soliciting sex with men and women while married and even brought a man back to the marital home when the young kids were home, prior to the split. JOEL is not the problem here. GTFO with that BS. Eleanor is the problem and has been for a long time. There may be partial explanations: mania, possible csa, possible MI, etc but she also had naked sex in a public park in broad daylight in 2019, those docs are linked in the DM story too. Then she seems to have a very detailed and PRACTICED approach to horrific sexual abuse of young kids. Hopefully he picked better in his second marriage. The kids will have both genetic susceptibility to mental illness and possible abuse trauma. The more stability and the more normal adults, the better.

I mean why are you assuming so much here? Why do you assume the dad is blameless and innocent and that he’s a good parent? Why do you assume that his second wife is stable and a good stepparent? I dont get that. Maybe the dad, Joel, is great. Maybe he had no idea what was going on w EHH. But the truth is you don’t know that for a fact and neither do I. If anything, it seems this case should cause us to be less trusting of others and more aware of all the evils of the world. I hope for the kids’ sake that their dad and stepmom are good people, good parents. But I think it’s very bizarre to just blindly assume that they are until we know more about this case. (Which we might never have access to that info)

+1 Thank you.

Joel is what those kids have. Mom is in a cage, her family still is enabling her, despite the nature of the offenses. The PR spin here is dumb, they were still offering daddio as a 3rd party custodian in April 2023. .

Why are you so keen to focus outside the court docs?

Why should you have access to info re: a private citizen? Minor kids? It would have been much better for the young kids if the divorce docs had been filed under seal, ditto with the recent custody filing and if the FB had been taken down much sooner.

Why is your focus everywhere BUT Eleanor?

[Anonymous]

I have known Joel for over 30 years. He’s good people and I have absolutely no doubt that he is protecting his children and being an excellent father. Posters on here speculating otherwise are horrible.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was trying to imagine what it must be like for her ex and for her young kids right now, especially with Mother's Day coming up and the story having been picked up widely last week.

The Ex is remarried and has custody of the kids.

Yes Divorced in 2021 and already remarried.

They separated in 2018, I think?

Given how seriously ill Eleanor is, I am glad that the kids have another stable adult in their lives, given that their mom has landed herself in PRISON and all.

Read the DM article, it has some of the divorce docs. She was actively soliciting sex with men and women while married and even brought a man back to the marital home when the young kids were home, prior to the split. JOEL is not the problem here. GTFO with that BS. Eleanor is the problem and has been for a long time. There may be partial explanations: mania, possible csa, possible MI, etc but she also had naked sex in a public park in broad daylight in 2019, those docs are linked in the DM story too. Then she seems to have a very detailed and PRACTICED approach to horrific sexual abuse of young kids. Hopefully he picked better in his second marriage. The kids will have both genetic susceptibility to mental illness and possible abuse trauma. The more stability and the more normal adults, the better.

I mean why are you assuming so much here? Why do you assume the dad is blameless and innocent and that he’s a good parent? Why do you assume that his second wife is stable and a good stepparent? I dont get that. Maybe the dad, Joel, is great. Maybe he had no idea what was going on w EHH. But the truth is you don’t know that for a fact and neither do I. If anything, it seems this case should cause us to be less trusting of others and more aware of all the evils of the world. I hope for the kids’ sake that their dad and stepmom are good people, good parents. But I think it’s very bizarre to just blindly assume that they are until we know more about this case. (Which we might never have access to that info)

+1 Thank you.

It's safe to assume he is LIKELY to be a better parent than ELEANOR. He is the only parent the kids have who is not incarcerated. Focusing on him and the kids in a public forum is gross especially in these circumstances. If you cannot wish the best for those kids in the only hope they have of a stable family and wish to shred THAT rather than focus on the child sex offender, seek help.

I don't know why you think I should be admonished, but I'm not focusing on him and the kids and not shredding anyone. I absolutely do wish the best for their kids. I also think "the public" doesn't know the circumstances well enough to have an opinion about either of them as a parent.

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Either of them meaning Eleanor?

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Anonymous wrote:I have known Joel for over 30 years. He’s good people and I have absolutely no doubt that he is protecting his children and being an excellent father. Posters on here speculating otherwise are horrible.

The thread is about Eleanor. Her parents are involved in that her father was just offered as a 3rd party custodian this month, so they are somewhat fair game.

Joel and the kids should be wished well left alone imho.

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How do we not have enough information to have an opinion about Eleanor Hunton Hoppe as a parent? As a human being? Have you READ the charging documents, PP? I am genuinely perplexed by your post.

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Anonymous wrote:I was trying to imagine what it must be like for her ex and for her young kids right now, especially with Mother's Day coming up and the story having been picked up widely last week.

The Ex is remarried and has custody of the kids.

Yes Divorced in 2021 and already remarried.

They separated in 2018, I think?

Given how seriously ill Eleanor is, I am glad that the kids have another stable adult in their lives, given that their mom has landed herself in PRISON and all.

Read the DM article, it has some of the divorce docs. She was actively soliciting sex with men and women while married and even brought a man back to the marital home when the young kids were home, prior to the split. JOEL is not the problem here. GTFO with that BS. Eleanor is the problem and has been for a long time. There may be partial explanations: mania, possible csa, possible MI, etc but she also had naked sex in a public park in broad daylight in 2019, those docs are linked in the DM story too. Then she seems to have a very detailed and PRACTICED approach to horrific sexual abuse of young kids. Hopefully he picked better in his second marriage. The kids will have both genetic susceptibility to mental illness and possible abuse trauma. The more stability and the more normal adults, the better.

I mean why are you assuming so much here? Why do you assume the dad is blameless and innocent and that he’s a good parent? Why do you assume that his second wife is stable and a good stepparent? I dont get that. Maybe the dad, Joel, is great. Maybe he had no idea what was going on w EHH. But the truth is you don’t know that for a fact and neither do I. If anything, it seems this case should cause us to be less trusting of others and more aware of all the evils of the world. I hope for the kids’ sake that their dad and stepmom are good people, good parents. But I think it’s very bizarre to just blindly assume that they are until we know more about this case. (Which we might never have access to that info)

No one is suggesting that you send your kids, should you have any, over for a sleepover.

Why focus on innocent parties who may be victims and who are private citizens, in a public forum, rather than focus on the child predator?

Since their mother may be in a federal penitentiary until those kids are adults, what is wrong with hoping they have some decent family to raise them? She may have harmed them or other kids known to them. Why shouldn't SHE be the focus? Why should we know about possible crime victims, minors, private citizens? The public documents focus on Eleanor's crimes. If it's too upsetting to focus on that so you start broad brushing, maybe take a break from this thread.

Did I say we should focus on the dad and stepmom? No, and I don’t want to. I’m not broad brushing anyone. I just find it very weird that PP states as though it’s fact “good that at least they have a stable mother figure.” We don’t know that. And probably never will.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was trying to imagine what it must be like for her ex and for her young kids right now, especially with Mother's Day coming up and the story having been picked up widely last week.

The Ex is remarried and has custody of the kids.

Yes Divorced in 2021 and already remarried.

They separated in 2018, I think?

Given how seriously ill Eleanor is, I am glad that the kids have another stable adult in their lives, given that their mom has landed herself in PRISON and all.

Read the DM article, it has some of the divorce docs. She was actively soliciting sex with men and women while married and even brought a man back to the marital home when the young kids were home, prior to the split. JOEL is not the problem here. GTFO with that BS. Eleanor is the problem and has been for a long time. There may be partial explanations: mania, possible csa, possible MI, etc but she also had naked sex in a public park in broad daylight in 2019, those docs are linked in the DM story too. Then she seems to have a very detailed and PRACTICED approach to horrific sexual abuse of young kids. Hopefully he picked better in his second marriage. The kids will have both genetic susceptibility to mental illness and possible abuse trauma. The more stability and the more normal adults, the better.

I mean why are you assuming so much here? Why do you assume the dad is blameless and innocent and that he’s a good parent? Why do you assume that his second wife is stable and a good stepparent? I dont get that. Maybe the dad, Joel, is great. Maybe he had no idea what was going on w EHH. But the truth is you don’t know that for a fact and neither do I. If anything, it seems this case should cause us to be less trusting of others and more aware of all the evils of the world. I hope for the kids’ sake that their dad and stepmom are good people, good parents. But I think it’s very bizarre to just blindly assume that they are until we know more about this case. (Which we might never have access to that info)

+1 Thank you.

Joel is what those kids have. Mom is in a cage, her family still is enabling her, despite the nature of the offenses. The PR spin here is dumb, they were still offering daddio as a 3rd party custodian in April 2023. .

Why are you so keen to focus outside the court docs?

Why should you have access to info re: a private citizen? Minor kids? It would have been much better for the young kids if the divorce docs had been filed under seal, ditto with the recent custody filing and if the FB had been taken down much sooner.

Why is your focus everywhere BUT Eleanor?

It’s not. I just find it wrong to assume so much. You don’t know these people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have known Joel for over 30 years. He’s good people and I have absolutely no doubt that he is protecting his children and being an excellent father. Posters on here speculating otherwise are horrible.

No one is speculating otherwise. Just stating that unless you know these people well, you do not know enough to assert anything about any of their character.