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3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN
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Anonymous
Stop with the faux outrage and political vomit. This can be politicized both ways easily, but I don't want to stoop to such a low. Verily, families of Covenant Prebyterian would appreciate thoughts and prayers and support right now. |
Anonymous
No. I am the OP. I have previously posted that I have: 1) Comforted a close friend who knew a child from Sandy Hook and attended their funeral 2) Hid under my desk at work due to an active shooter scare 3) A close family member happened not to shop at the Buffalo grocery store the day of that shooting. I could go on about more issues. Heard gunshots from my house and called police (I live in a city). Have close family members who are teachers AND who are law enforcement. It's REAL outrage and it's personal. Maybe it's not personal for you yet, but it will be because it's not ending. I literally do not understand your lack of empathy for why people are so upset, why they want (yes) political action, because yes, that is the only solution, the only way forward is to DO SOMETHING. Thoughts and prayers and nothing else is shameful. If it were my child, I'd want CHANGE, to ensure it never happened to another person. |
Anonymous
So the family members of previous mass shooting incidents who strongly vocalize calls fot gun control and political action every time it happens AGAIN - like right now- are they shameful too in your eyes? Or which of us is allowed to politicize this? Are they "stooping to a low"? |
Anonymous
From what I have read here, the "do something" people want to do something that will not be effective. You talk about taking away all guns. That is just NOT going to happen. So, what do you recommend? |
Anonymous
I've followed this entire thread and there are very few posts about taking all guns. Do not lie. Some ideas for sensible gun ownership: -Red flag laws at the federal level with drastic education about how and when to use them -Mental health assessment for owning a gun -Gun education class and test required to pass to own a gun like the Swiss do -Raise minimum age to 21 to own a gun (yes in this case, it wouldn't help, but plenty of cases where it would) -Anyone suddenly buying lots of guns all of a sudden triggers scrutiny, additional review. This woman was able to purchase 7 guns LEGALLY. That's ridiculous! It's also why democratic cities are overwhelmed with gun violence - majority of guns in crime are trafficked in from permissive gun law states statistically -Anmunition cap For starters. What have you got other than thoughts and prayers and shrugging shoulders? |
Anonymous
What is the purpose of an ammo cap? You can't easily carry 10000 bullets without a hand truck. |
Anonymous
Large capacity magazines. Google it, lots published on how this would help snd has been proposed directly by parents of Sandy Hook children. https://actionfund.sandyhookpromise.org/issues/gun-safety/magazine-capacity-limits/ |
Anonymous
Just a few thoughts..... I am all for red flag laws. As long as they are not abused. Mental health screening for owning a gun? That is not going to happen. And, in the end... it would not be effective. Better for mental health professionals to report those who should not have access to firearms. I'm good with a gun education class. Most firearms users do that. I did. Many gun shops will give free courses when a firearm is purchased. That is a good thing. The more education, the better. How do we know this person "suddenly" purchased 7 guns. I have seen no reports of the time period in which she purchased them. An ammunition cap would be crazy. It would mean that gun owners would spend less time practicing. You don't want that. Legal gun owners go to the range to practice so they can be responsible owners. A cap on ammunition would be defeating. |
Anonymous
DP but also... Ulvade shooter had 1600 rounds. Shouldn't that - as well as suddenly purchasing many guns - trigger scrutiny? https://www.kxan.com/investigations/uvalde-shooter-had-1600-rounds-few-laws-in-texas-limit-bullet-purchases/ And again, there are mass shootings and then there is urban crime. Unfortunately urban criminals get weapons and stockpile ammo easily when straw purchases are trafficked in from states that are less restrictive. |
Anonymous
Anonymous
What exactly should I be thinking about and praying for that would help someone who just buried their 9-year old child? |
Anonymous
No, the pro-gun faction CANNOT easily politicize this, without looking like the creepy psychopaths that they truly are. And you do not speak for the families of Covenant Presbyterian - given you can't even spell 'presbyterian' |
Anonymous
Thank you for this. This is productive discussion. Not shrugging. See separate posts re : high capacity magazines and amount of ammunition by ulvade shooter. |
Anonymous
My thoughts are that we need to end this violence, and it can only happen through strong legislation. My prayers are that this legislation will happen. My support, and the support of EVERYONE should be in the form of political action, hounding their legislators to demand that it happen, and ousting anyone who won't make it happen. Otherwise, it will be another grieving family. And another grieving family. And another grieving family. How is that support to families? The best support we can give them is to rally for meaningful change. |
Anonymous
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Let the insurance companies handle this. Require insurance for all guns and they will have algorithms to figure out who and which type of guns are a risk.
Get caught with an uninsured gun and you get a felony charge (so banned from all future gun ownership) and jail time. |