Gaza War, Part 3

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Why the F does a U.S. senator from Pennsylvania use that platform to express his special interests opinion about conflict across the globe.

Above all else, who the F cares what he thinks? Do we care what the mayor of Stuttgart thinks about it?


Good grief.
But, it is just fine when Rashida Tlaib or Ilhan Omar do it... right?


Does Fetterman have family being slaughtered there? No?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are new reports of another massacre with dozens killed at a humanitarian delivery in Gaza City today.


How predictable . How many tunnels have the IDF destroyed in five months? Their bombs don’t even penetrate the tunnels so really they’ve done nothing to hurt Hamas infrastructure .

They should pick on someone their own size. They are hurting vulnerable civilians instead of the actual enemy they claim to be after


Pick on someone their own size, ok. Israel is the size of New Jersey, a land mass which is .1% of the Middle East, surrounded by 20+ Muslim countries and 50+ Muslim-majority countries. Jews have .2% of the world population, 15m people. There are 1.8 billion Muslims. But sure, keep playing the Muslim underdog card.


With the weapons support and blank checkbook of the United States military. Boo effing hoo
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Why the F does a U.S. senator from Pennsylvania use that platform to express his special interests opinion about conflict across the globe.

Above all else, who the F cares what he thinks? Do we care what the mayor of Stuttgart thinks about it?


Good grief.
But, it is just fine when Rashida Tlaib or Ilhan Omar do it... right?


Does Fetterman have family being slaughtered there? No?


Guy has no explainable tie or connection to Israel, yet has an Israeli flag in his home. Nothing odd about that at all … right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Why the F does a U.S. senator from Pennsylvania use that platform to express his special interests opinion about conflict across the globe.

Above all else, who the F cares what he thinks? Do we care what the mayor of Stuttgart thinks about it?


Good grief.
But, it is just fine when Rashida Tlaib or Ilhan Omar do it... right?


Does Fetterman have family being slaughtered there? No?


Guy has no explainable tie or connection to Israel, yet has an Israeli flag in his home. Nothing odd about that at all … right?


None of it makes any sense. He’s clearly bought and paid for.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Hamas isn’t stupid. They know Israel won’t stop bombing once the hostages are released. If any bring; the bombing will get worse because their own hostages aren’t in the way.

Hostages that remain are the only piece of leverage they have over Israel as they don’t have the military technological advantage .

Hamas stonewalling and playing hardball with Israel is what they deserve as they created the monster . Hamas ,after all, was aided and abetted in its infancy stages in the 80s till 2020 by Israel and Israel knew Hamas was planning a 10/7 a year before the attacks but ignored it

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.



Hamas are terrorists.
We haven't forgotten their actions on Oct. 7 that precipitated all this.
And, Israel does NOT deserve what Hamas has done. Disgusting that you say that.


If Israel says Palestinians deserve starvation, then yes Israel deserved 10/7 because they helped Hamas come to power
Anonymous
And by Israel, I mean the government not the people. The government deserved the slap in the face , security failure/collapse, and humbling realization that 10/7 gave . Israel had gotten too cocky and too comfortable with Hamas. Now they will never again make the same mistake and support Islamic radicals .

They did the same thing with ISIS. Supported them then switched to support Assad and Putin when they realized that made Israel much safer.
Anonymous
Netanyahu absolutely earned this humiliation
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are new reports of another massacre with dozens killed at a humanitarian delivery in Gaza City today.


How predictable . How many tunnels have the IDF destroyed in five months? Their bombs don’t even penetrate the tunnels so really they’ve done nothing to hurt Hamas infrastructure .

They should pick on someone their own size. They are hurting vulnerable civilians instead of the actual enemy they claim to be after


Pick on someone their own size, ok. Israel is the size of New Jersey, a land mass which is .1% of the Middle East, surrounded by 20+ Muslim countries and 50+ Muslim-majority countries. Jews have .2% of the world population, 15m people. There are 1.8 billion Muslims. But sure, keep playing the Muslim underdog card.


Thats not the Muslims fault. They didn’t ask Jews to come there. They just did because they didn’t feel safe around the Christians. Palestinians are not to blame for the Holocaust so why should they pay the price for the Jewish nationalist aspirations ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are new reports of another massacre with dozens killed at a humanitarian delivery in Gaza City today.


How predictable . How many tunnels have the IDF destroyed in five months? Their bombs don’t even penetrate the tunnels so really they’ve done nothing to hurt Hamas infrastructure .

They should pick on someone their own size. They are hurting vulnerable civilians instead of the actual enemy they claim to be after


Pick on someone their own size, ok. Israel is the size of New Jersey, a land mass which is .1% of the Middle East, surrounded by 20+ Muslim countries and 50+ Muslim-majority countries. Jews have .2% of the world population, 15m people. There are 1.8 billion Muslims. But sure, keep playing the Muslim underdog card.


Thats not the Muslims fault. They didn’t ask Jews to come there. They just did because they didn’t feel safe around the Christians. Palestinians are not to blame for the Holocaust so why should they pay the price for the Jewish nationalist aspirations ?


Makes too much sense, plus doesn’t fit the “Israel good, everyone else bad” narrative.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Hamas isn’t stupid. They know Israel won’t stop bombing once the hostages are released. If any bring; the bombing will get worse because their own hostages aren’t in the way.

Hostages that remain are the only piece of leverage they have over Israel as they don’t have the military technological advantage .

Hamas stonewalling and playing hardball with Israel is what they deserve as they created the monster . Hamas ,after all, was aided and abetted in its infancy stages in the 80s till 2020 by Israel and Israel knew Hamas was planning a 10/7 a year before the attacks but ignored it

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.



Hamas are terrorists.
We haven't forgotten their actions on Oct. 7 that precipitated all this.
And, Israel does NOT deserve what Hamas has done. Disgusting that you say that.


Sadly, there are some major (foreign?) trolls pushing denial of the October 7th massacres, rapes, and abductions.

This attitude really is disgusting. But these trolls are determined to control the narrative. They are well coordinated and they drown us out, and their messaging appeals to the stories young people and progressives like to tell themselves and harnesses all the tropes of the progressive worldview to advance the ancient narrative that the Jews must be guilty.


There were certainly massacres and abductions on 10/7, and we all condemn those. We don't know whether there were rapes. It is possible but not confirmed. Israel has objectively lied so blatantly and frequently that many of us remain cautious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Top Trump advisor Amb. David Friedman suggests a ‘one-state solution’ to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict…

…Friedman is convinced that Israel must have sovereignty over its God-given land and he is advocating for a one-state solution: The State of Israel.

The reason, he explained, is because “Israel is the only country that can provide for security and prosperity of all those who inhabit it.”

Notwithstanding, Friedman's peace plan does not include the idea of Israel granting citizenship to 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank and another 2 million in Gaza. He stressed that such a step would existentially give Palestinians the opportunity to do demographically what they couldn't do militarily against Israel, i.e. to finish off the Jewish state.

He suggests that Palestinians living in the area would retain a permanent residency. This status will give them self-governance on civil matters, but not voting rights in national elections, only local ones.

“What does that mean? It means they can't be kicked out of their homes because they have the right to live there, which means they can get travel documents that enable them to leave the country… and a large infusion of capital, you know, from our new friends in the region to help make this area an area that's worth living in for Jews and Arabs,” the former ambassador explained.

https://allisrael.com/top-trump-advisor-amb-david-friedman-suggests-a-one-state-solution-to-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict

Trump will impose a one state solution.


And what is wrong with that? What Friedman is saying sounds like the best possible outcome for Palestinians in the near future. I mean, it is clear that a two state solutions is completely off the table at this point - 10/7 showed that Palestinians have zero interest in cooperation with their neighbors and pose a national security threat to any Jewish state - and removal of Palestinians does not appear to be feasible at this time.

Friedman’s plan appears to allow some limited self governance while allowing Israel to provide strong security and intelligence measures over the long term, and treat the Palestinian people well. If Biden cared about this conflict, this would be what he would be suggesting, not trying to push some dead on arrival two-state solution neither side wants.


I want Palestine back.


What Palestine do you want back? Palestine was a name given to the area by the colonizing British. There has never been a Country called Palestine, so wanting Palestine “back” is absurd.


We all know what Palestine is and who lived there until 1948.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are new reports of another massacre with dozens killed at a humanitarian delivery in Gaza City today.


How predictable . How many tunnels have the IDF destroyed in five months? Their bombs don’t even penetrate the tunnels so really they’ve done nothing to hurt Hamas infrastructure .

They should pick on someone their own size. They are hurting vulnerable civilians instead of the actual enemy they claim to be after


Pick on someone their own size, ok. Israel is the size of New Jersey, a land mass which is .1% of the Middle East, surrounded by 20+ Muslim countries and 50+ Muslim-majority countries. Jews have .2% of the world population, 15m people. There are 1.8 billion Muslims. But sure, keep playing the Muslim underdog card.


Israel is a freaking nuclear power. The number of Muslims in the world is immaterial. This isn't about Muslims vs. Jews. It's about Palestinians vs. Zionists. Some of the Palestinians are Christian. Bringing in Islam is a red herring.
Anonymous
What qas Kamala's speech about today? We really didn't need ut.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Hamas isn’t stupid. They know Israel won’t stop bombing once the hostages are released. If any bring; the bombing will get worse because their own hostages aren’t in the way.

Hostages that remain are the only piece of leverage they have over Israel as they don’t have the military technological advantage .

Hamas stonewalling and playing hardball with Israel is what they deserve as they created the monster . Hamas ,after all, was aided and abetted in its infancy stages in the 80s till 2020 by Israel and Israel knew Hamas was planning a 10/7 a year before the attacks but ignored it

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.



Hamas are terrorists.
We haven't forgotten their actions on Oct. 7 that precipitated all this.
And, Israel does NOT deserve what Hamas has done. Disgusting that you say that.


Sadly, there are some major (foreign?) trolls pushing denial of the October 7th massacres, rapes, and abductions.

This attitude really is disgusting. But these trolls are determined to control the narrative. They are well coordinated and they drown us out, and their messaging appeals to the stories young people and progressives like to tell themselves and harnesses all the tropes of the progressive worldview to advance the ancient narrative that the Jews must be guilty.


There were certainly massacres and abductions on 10/7, and we all condemn those. We don't know whether there were rapes. It is possible but not confirmed. Israel has objectively lied so blatantly and frequently that many of us remain cautious.


Yes there is no proof of rapes by Hamas only rapes by the Israelis as part of their oppression and terrorism campaign. Let’s face it what the Israelis have done is much much worst vs one day on Oct 7.
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