Gaza War, Part 3

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Top Trump advisor Amb. David Friedman suggests a ‘one-state solution’ to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict…

…Friedman is convinced that Israel must have sovereignty over its God-given land and he is advocating for a one-state solution: The State of Israel.

The reason, he explained, is because “Israel is the only country that can provide for security and prosperity of all those who inhabit it.”

Notwithstanding, Friedman's peace plan does not include the idea of Israel granting citizenship to 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank and another 2 million in Gaza. He stressed that such a step would existentially give Palestinians the opportunity to do demographically what they couldn't do militarily against Israel, i.e. to finish off the Jewish state.

He suggests that Palestinians living in the area would retain a permanent residency. This status will give them self-governance on civil matters, but not voting rights in national elections, only local ones.

“What does that mean? It means they can't be kicked out of their homes because they have the right to live there, which means they can get travel documents that enable them to leave the country… and a large infusion of capital, you know, from our new friends in the region to help make this area an area that's worth living in for Jews and Arabs,” the former ambassador explained.

https://allisrael.com/top-trump-advisor-amb-david-friedman-suggests-a-one-state-solution-to-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict

Trump will impose a one state solution.


And what is wrong with that? What Friedman is saying sounds like the best possible outcome for Palestinians in the near future. I mean, it is clear that a two state solutions is completely off the table at this point - 10/7 showed that Palestinians have zero interest in cooperation with their neighbors and pose a national security threat to any Jewish state - and removal of Palestinians does not appear to be feasible at this time.

Friedman’s plan appears to allow some limited self governance while allowing Israel to provide strong security and intelligence measures over the long term, and treat the Palestinian people well. If Biden cared about this conflict, this would be what he would be suggesting, not trying to push some dead on arrival two-state solution neither side wants.


I want Palestine back.


What Palestine do you want back? Palestine was a name given to the area by the colonizing British. There has never been a Country called Palestine, so wanting Palestine “back” is absurd.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Top Trump advisor Amb. David Friedman suggests a ‘one-state solution’ to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict…

…Friedman is convinced that Israel must have sovereignty over its God-given land and he is advocating for a one-state solution: The State of Israel.

The reason, he explained, is because “Israel is the only country that can provide for security and prosperity of all those who inhabit it.”

Notwithstanding, Friedman's peace plan does not include the idea of Israel granting citizenship to 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank and another 2 million in Gaza. He stressed that such a step would existentially give Palestinians the opportunity to do demographically what they couldn't do militarily against Israel, i.e. to finish off the Jewish state.

He suggests that Palestinians living in the area would retain a permanent residency. This status will give them self-governance on civil matters, but not voting rights in national elections, only local ones.

“What does that mean? It means they can't be kicked out of their homes because they have the right to live there, which means they can get travel documents that enable them to leave the country… and a large infusion of capital, you know, from our new friends in the region to help make this area an area that's worth living in for Jews and Arabs,” the former ambassador explained.

https://allisrael.com/top-trump-advisor-amb-david-friedman-suggests-a-one-state-solution-to-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict

Trump will impose a one state solution.


And what is wrong with that? What Friedman is saying sounds like the best possible outcome for Palestinians in the near future. I mean, it is clear that a two state solutions is completely off the table at this point - 10/7 showed that Palestinians have zero interest in cooperation with their neighbors and pose a national security threat to any Jewish state - and removal of Palestinians does not appear to be feasible at this time.

Friedman’s plan appears to allow some limited self governance while allowing Israel to provide strong security and intelligence measures over the long term, and treat the Palestinian people well. If Biden cared about this conflict, this would be what he would be suggesting, not trying to push some dead on arrival two-state solution neither side wants.


I want Palestine back.


What Palestine do you want back? Palestine was a name given to the area by the colonizing British. There has never been a Country called Palestine, so wanting Palestine “back” is absurd.


There has never been a country called Israel either.

If you want to be technical, Israel were a people not the name of a nation. It was Judea then Palestine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Top Trump advisor Amb. David Friedman suggests a ‘one-state solution’ to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict…

…Friedman is convinced that Israel must have sovereignty over its God-given land and he is advocating for a one-state solution: The State of Israel.

The reason, he explained, is because “Israel is the only country that can provide for security and prosperity of all those who inhabit it.”

Notwithstanding, Friedman's peace plan does not include the idea of Israel granting citizenship to 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank and another 2 million in Gaza. He stressed that such a step would existentially give Palestinians the opportunity to do demographically what they couldn't do militarily against Israel, i.e. to finish off the Jewish state.

He suggests that Palestinians living in the area would retain a permanent residency. This status will give them self-governance on civil matters, but not voting rights in national elections, only local ones.

“What does that mean? It means they can't be kicked out of their homes because they have the right to live there, which means they can get travel documents that enable them to leave the country… and a large infusion of capital, you know, from our new friends in the region to help make this area an area that's worth living in for Jews and Arabs,” the former ambassador explained.

https://allisrael.com/top-trump-advisor-amb-david-friedman-suggests-a-one-state-solution-to-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict

Trump will impose a one state solution.


And what is wrong with that? What Friedman is saying sounds like the best possible outcome for Palestinians in the near future. I mean, it is clear that a two state solutions is completely off the table at this point - 10/7 showed that Palestinians have zero interest in cooperation with their neighbors and pose a national security threat to any Jewish state - and removal of Palestinians does not appear to be feasible at this time.

Friedman’s plan appears to allow some limited self governance while allowing Israel to provide strong security and intelligence measures over the long term, and treat the Palestinian people well. If Biden cared about this conflict, this would be what he would be suggesting, not trying to push some dead on arrival two-state solution neither side wants.


It’s essentially a one state solution right now. Israeli troops are in Gaza, Settlers are in the WB, Palestinians are in Israel.
Anonymous
They should really rename the entire land Jerusalem. Half of the problem is both sides are clinging to the names Palestine and Israel and have a visceral reaction when the other name is called
Anonymous
And what an irony Jerusalem means city of peace
Anonymous
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At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Hamas isn’t stupid. They know Israel won’t stop bombing once the hostages are released. If any bring; the bombing will get worse because their own hostages aren’t in the way.

Hostages that remain are the only piece of leverage they have over Israel as they don’t have the military technological advantage .

Hamas stonewalling and playing hardball with Israel is what they deserve as they created the monster . Hamas ,after all, was aided and abetted in its infancy stages in the 80s till 2020 by Israel and Israel knew Hamas was planning a 10/7 a year before the attacks but ignored it

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Why the F does a U.S. senator from Pennsylvania use that platform to express his special interests opinion about conflict across the globe.

Above all else, who the F cares what he thinks? Do we care what the mayor of Stuttgart thinks about it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Why the F does a U.S. senator from Pennsylvania use that platform to express his special interests opinion about conflict across the globe.

Above all else, who the F cares what he thinks? Do we care what the mayor of Stuttgart thinks about it?


Good grief.
But, it is just fine when Rashida Tlaib or Ilhan Omar do it... right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Hamas isn’t stupid. They know Israel won’t stop bombing once the hostages are released. If any bring; the bombing will get worse because their own hostages aren’t in the way.

Hostages that remain are the only piece of leverage they have over Israel as they don’t have the military technological advantage .

Hamas stonewalling and playing hardball with Israel is what they deserve as they created the monster . Hamas ,after all, was aided and abetted in its infancy stages in the 80s till 2020 by Israel and Israel knew Hamas was planning a 10/7 a year before the attacks but ignored it

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.



Hamas are terrorists.
We haven't forgotten their actions on Oct. 7 that precipitated all this.
And, Israel does NOT deserve what Hamas has done. Disgusting that you say that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Hamas isn’t stupid. They know Israel won’t stop bombing once the hostages are released. If any bring; the bombing will get worse because their own hostages aren’t in the way.

Hostages that remain are the only piece of leverage they have over Israel as they don’t have the military technological advantage .

Hamas stonewalling and playing hardball with Israel is what they deserve as they created the monster . Hamas ,after all, was aided and abetted in its infancy stages in the 80s till 2020 by Israel and Israel knew Hamas was planning a 10/7 a year before the attacks but ignored it

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.



Hamas are terrorists.
We haven't forgotten their actions on Oct. 7 that precipitated all this.
And, Israel does NOT deserve what Hamas has done. Disgusting that you say that.


Sadly, there are some major (foreign?) trolls pushing denial of the October 7th massacres, rapes, and abductions.

This attitude really is disgusting. But these trolls are determined to control the narrative. They are well coordinated and they drown us out, and their messaging appeals to the stories young people and progressives like to tell themselves and harnesses all the tropes of the progressive worldview to advance the ancient narrative that the Jews must be guilty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Hamas isn’t stupid. They know Israel won’t stop bombing once the hostages are released. If any bring; the bombing will get worse because their own hostages aren’t in the way.

Hostages that remain are the only piece of leverage they have over Israel as they don’t have the military technological advantage .

Hamas stonewalling and playing hardball with Israel is what they deserve as they created the monster . Hamas ,after all, was aided and abetted in its infancy stages in the 80s till 2020 by Israel and Israel knew Hamas was planning a 10/7 a year before the attacks but ignored it

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.



Hamas are terrorists.
We haven't forgotten their actions on Oct. 7 that precipitated all this.
And, Israel does NOT deserve what Hamas has done. Disgusting that you say that.


Sadly, there are some major (foreign?) trolls pushing denial of the October 7th massacres, rapes, and abductions.

This attitude really is disgusting. But these trolls are determined to control the narrative. They are well coordinated and they drown us out, and their messaging appeals to the stories young people and progressives like to tell themselves and harnesses all the tropes of the progressive worldview to advance the ancient narrative that the Jews must be guilty.


Seems much like what the Nazis did nearly 100 years ago.
I wonder if they see the similarities?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Why the F does a U.S. senator from Pennsylvania use that platform to express his special interests opinion about conflict across the globe.

Above all else, who the F cares what he thinks? Do we care what the mayor of Stuttgart thinks about it?


Good grief.
But, it is just fine when Rashida Tlaib or Ilhan Omar do it... right?


Rashida Tlaib b/c she is Palestinian American and inhan Omar (ugh, I really think she shouldn't be there) but she's the only member of Congress who has personal experience of teh UN camops and been stateless refugee plus she is muslim. Obviously Jewish and Muslim and Arab Americans have a connection to this conflict that supersedes WASP A$$ Fetterman slob. God why doesnt he just wear some real clothes and take a shower- maybe if he wasn't free hanging in his basketball shorts and turtling in his hoody at work he wouldn't be having mental breakdown every 3 weeks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

At any point, Hamas could have ended this burgeoning tragedy to surrender and release every hostage.

Now, they're unwilling to provide a list of any surviving hostages.

Hamas is anathema to peace for Gaza.

Hamas instigated and owns this humanitarian catastrophe.


Hamas isn’t stupid. They know Israel won’t stop bombing once the hostages are released. If any bring; the bombing will get worse because their own hostages aren’t in the way.

Hostages that remain are the only piece of leverage they have over Israel as they don’t have the military technological advantage .

Hamas stonewalling and playing hardball with Israel is what they deserve as they created the monster . Hamas ,after all, was aided and abetted in its infancy stages in the 80s till 2020 by Israel and Israel knew Hamas was planning a 10/7 a year before the attacks but ignored it

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.



Hamas is stupid. Let's acknowledge only stupid people would on purpose plan and carry out the massacre of grandma's, babies and concert goers by hand to make some completely unfathomable point. Then carry on making whatever point you want to make.
Anonymous
Israel breaking all rules w its use of AI warfare.

“Israel is deploying new and sophisticated artificial intelligence technologies at a large scale in its offensive in Gaza. And as the civilian death toll mounts, regional human rights groups are asking if Israel’s AI targeting systems have enough guardrails.

It’s a push for accountability that could force Washington to confront some uncomfortable questions about the extent to which the U.S. is letting its ally off the hook for its use of AI-powered warfare.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/03/israel-ai-warfare-gaza-00144491

Genocide Joe also letting Israel off the hook w AI.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are new reports of another massacre with dozens killed at a humanitarian delivery in Gaza City today.


How predictable . How many tunnels have the IDF destroyed in five months? Their bombs don’t even penetrate the tunnels so really they’ve done nothing to hurt Hamas infrastructure .

They should pick on someone their own size. They are hurting vulnerable civilians instead of the actual enemy they claim to be after


Pick on someone their own size, ok. Israel is the size of New Jersey, a land mass which is .1% of the Middle East, surrounded by 20+ Muslim countries and 50+ Muslim-majority countries. Jews have .2% of the world population, 15m people. There are 1.8 billion Muslims. But sure, keep playing the Muslim underdog card.
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