BOE member pushes Option H for personal gain?

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There is no plan to rebuild Wootton. Option H, essentially let Wootton to be relocated.

Among other benefits, it helps to secure Churchill’s boundary, which is in the district that the BOE member is bidding for a county council seat.

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Anonymous wrote:The BOE is pushing the new options, especially H, for the Crown boundary study. One of the BOE members behind this is actually running for county council in district 1. Option H serves her well, as she can “protect” district 1 neighborhoods from any school boundary change.

So, Gaithersburg residents lost a new school, and she can win votes in her county council campaign? This is f-ed up!

I thought that both the Wootton students and the families local to Crown would go to Crown under option H, is that incorrect? Who is getting hurt by this?

Please think about kids in Gaithersburg!

#100% right, from a moco lawyer.

Don't Wootton kids live in Gaithersburg and isn't Crown in Gaithersburg? Are there other Gaithersburg kids that this hurts and if so who? Genuinely asking, I live in Silver Spring and am not very familiar with that part of the county.

In option abcd, close to 2000 Gaithersburg students will move to Crown. Now with Wootton taking Crown, it only has the capacity to take 500 or so from Gaithersburg, and Gaithersburg High will still be 100% capacity. The city is still growing fast. It is UNFAIR to Gaithersburg!

Abcd is based on the old utilization numbers. The new numbers were released after those options came out (which made no sense, why couldn’t they have just waited?) and not only were the overcrowding issues no longer there, they could barely fill Crown.

They weren’t just taking 2000 Gaithersburg students and moving them to crown by the way. They were redistricting in a way that made no sense.

With this option H, Gaithersburg is actually within capacity. I heard it also leaves the ability to add another 500 seats at crown in the future should there be enough growth to support that.

You can go and check the numbers and compare abcd to h. Gaithersburg high schools are still very crowded. Hundreds of homes are being built there. Where are the kids going?

You say crowded but if you look at the metrics they are still under 100%.

The new builds- which developments specifically? The Grove is slated to go to Wootton, at least until they fix the elementary schools and do a study for them. The other builds with high end condos generally don’t have a ton of school aged children.

Look I completely understand why people in Crown are upset. They have been expecting a new neighborhood school. Unfortunately it’s part of the public school system and as it’s known to do fairly regularly mcps will change plans out of nowhere. But the neighborhood is losing a lot of goodwill with the nonsense they have been posting on social media. They would rather make sensational statements versus fact based statements. They are losing their credibility and making people mad.

What is fact based statement ? The fact is that >1000 Gaithersburg students who would be able to go to Crown and have been expecting this for years now lose their opportunity. Gaithersburg High will be 100% capacity and the other Gaithersburg high schools are close to 100%. In the first round, these schools would be 80-90% capacity, which is much reasonable for students and staff. Wootton’s condition was evaluated against the same standard as all other schools, what facts do you have saying it is worse and need to be rebuilt completely?

Yeah Churchill cluster is pushing all these from behind. Ironically Wootton is taking all the blames, though I do not have much sympathy for them

[Anonymous]

+1 Gives Julie more reason to push H.

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There is no plan to rebuild Wootton. Option H, essentially let Wootton to be relocated.

Among other benefits, it helps to secure Churchill’s boundary, which is in the district that the BOE member is bidding for a county council seat.

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Anonymous wrote:The BOE is pushing the new options, especially H, for the Crown boundary study. One of the BOE members behind this is actually running for county council in district 1. Option H serves her well, as she can “protect” district 1 neighborhoods from any school boundary change.

So, Gaithersburg residents lost a new school, and she can win votes in her county council campaign? This is f-ed up!

I thought that both the Wootton students and the families local to Crown would go to Crown under option H, is that incorrect? Who is getting hurt by this?

Please think about kids in Gaithersburg!

#100% right, from a moco lawyer.

Don't Wootton kids live in Gaithersburg and isn't Crown in Gaithersburg? Are there other Gaithersburg kids that this hurts and if so who? Genuinely asking, I live in Silver Spring and am not very familiar with that part of the county.

In option abcd, close to 2000 Gaithersburg students will move to Crown. Now with Wootton taking Crown, it only has the capacity to take 500 or so from Gaithersburg, and Gaithersburg High will still be 100% capacity. The city is still growing fast. It is UNFAIR to Gaithersburg!

Abcd is based on the old utilization numbers. The new numbers were released after those options came out (which made no sense, why couldn’t they have just waited?) and not only were the overcrowding issues no longer there, they could barely fill Crown.

They weren’t just taking 2000 Gaithersburg students and moving them to crown by the way. They were redistricting in a way that made no sense.

With this option H, Gaithersburg is actually within capacity. I heard it also leaves the ability to add another 500 seats at crown in the future should there be enough growth to support that.

You can go and check the numbers and compare abcd to h. Gaithersburg high schools are still very crowded. Hundreds of homes are being built there. Where are the kids going?

You say crowded but if you look at the metrics they are still under 100%.

The new builds- which developments specifically? The Grove is slated to go to Wootton, at least until they fix the elementary schools and do a study for them. The other builds with high end condos generally don’t have a ton of school aged children.

Look I completely understand why people in Crown are upset. They have been expecting a new neighborhood school. Unfortunately it’s part of the public school system and as it’s known to do fairly regularly mcps will change plans out of nowhere. But the neighborhood is losing a lot of goodwill with the nonsense they have been posting on social media. They would rather make sensational statements versus fact based statements. They are losing their credibility and making people mad.

What is fact based statement ? The fact is that >1000 Gaithersburg students who would be able to go to Crown and have been expecting this for years now lose their opportunity. Gaithersburg High will be 100% capacity and the other Gaithersburg high schools are close to 100%. In the first round, these schools would be 80-90% capacity, which is much reasonable for students and staff. Wootton’s condition was evaluated against the same standard as all other schools, what facts do you have saying it is worse and need to be rebuilt completely?

Yeah Churchill cluster is pushing all these from behind. Ironically Wootton is taking all the blames, though I do not have much sympathy for them

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They work too hard and complain too little, raising the bar for everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:I see all new options E to H only benefit Wootton HS above other schools.

It does not and current Wootton parents are deathly against it. Wootton is screwed with every option. Wootton always had a target in its back because of the high Asian population. The county wants to spread out some of that brainpower.

And that is not a bad thing at all - why should Asian population be concentrated only in Wootton. Spread them around and improve the ratings of other schools.

If MCPS had any sense they would utilize this chance to rezone Dufief ES and Travilah ES to feed QO. Both schools are closer to Ridgeview and QO than to Frost and Wootton.

Asians should always stay the minority in every school, right? Heaven forbid they work hard, excel, or prefer living near their own communities. Since they don’t complain loudly enough, clearly the solution is to treat them however we want. Makes perfect sense!

[Anonymous]

How can we hold BOE and public officials accountable? It seems, unless there is big scandal, they often get away from their mistakes and incompetence, even benefiting from it.

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Anonymous wrote:How can we hold BOE and public officials accountable? It seems, unless there is big scandal, they often get away from their mistakes and incompetence, even benefiting from it.

Vote them out come election time.

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Tried, but often get disappointed. Even when someone was out of one office, they just move on to another.

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Anonymous wrote:How can we hold BOE and public officials accountable? It seems, unless there is big scandal, they often get away from their mistakes and incompetence, even benefiting from it.

Vote them out come election time.

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No policy, or politician, can satisfy everyone. In this case, if Juilie is actually thinking of her constituents, votes or not, she is doing her job.

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Tried, but often get disappointed. Even when someone was out of one office, they just move on to another.

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Anonymous wrote:How can we hold BOE and public officials accountable? It seems, unless there is big scandal, they often get away from their mistakes and incompetence, even benefiting from it.

Vote them out come election time.

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No policy, or politician, can satisfy everyone. In this case, if Juilie is actually thinking of her constituents, votes or not, she is doing her job.

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Tried, but often get disappointed. Even when someone was out of one office, they just move on to another.

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Anonymous wrote:How can we hold BOE and public officials accountable? It seems, unless there is big scandal, they often get away from their mistakes and incompetence, even benefiting from it.

Vote them out come election time.

Have you looked at the hot mess Julie and the others have made? Maybe your kids aren't in public, but for the rest of ours, its had a huge and negative impact. Not to mention rising property taxes with zero additional benefits.

[Anonymous]

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Tried, but often get disappointed. Even when someone was out of one office, they just move on to another.

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Anonymous wrote:How can we hold BOE and public officials accountable? It seems, unless there is big scandal, they often get away from their mistakes and incompetence, even benefiting from it.

Vote them out come election time.

We have to keep trying till we get competent people in.

[Anonymous]

How does this work out for us? How many former BOE members have used their role in BOE to gain political capital for themselves?

Former BOE member Shebra Evans appointed to County Council
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1304955.page

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Tried, but often get disappointed. Even when someone was out of one office, they just move on to another.

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Anonymous wrote:How can we hold BOE and public officials accountable? It seems, unless there is big scandal, they often get away from their mistakes and incompetence, even benefiting from it.

Vote them out come election time.

We have to keep trying till we get competent people in.

[Anonymous]

This isn’t a single BOE member’s decision. Actually, this is one of the few times that BOE is proposing something that makes sense.

Anonymous wrote:The BOE is pushing the new options, especially H, for the Crown boundary study. One of the BOE members behind this is actually running for county council in district 1. Option H serves her well, as she can “protect” district 1 neighborhoods from any school boundary change.

So, Gaithersburg residents lost a new school, and she can win votes in her county council campaign? This is f-ed up!

[Anonymous]

If BOE get sued, we tax payers are paying for the fines, legal fees, etc., right? How convenient for them.

Perhaps they need to save money from education to cover the cost of cleaning up their own mess, like paying over half-a-million for losing the Dan Engler case.

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Anonymous wrote:The BOE is pushing the new options, especially H, for the Crown boundary study. One of the BOE members behind this is actually running for county council in district 1. Option H serves her well, as she can “protect” district 1 neighborhoods from any school boundary change.

So, Gaithersburg residents lost a new school, and she can win votes in her county council campaign? This is f-ed up!

I thought that both the Wootton students and the families local to Crown would go to Crown under option H, is that incorrect? Who is getting hurt by this?

Please think about kids in Gaithersburg!

Don't Wootton kids live in Gaithersburg and isn't Crown in Gaithersburg? Are there other Gaithersburg kids that this hurts and if so who? Genuinely asking, I live in Silver Spring and am not very familiar with that part of the county.

In option abcd, close to 2000 Gaithersburg students will move to Crown. Now with Wootton taking Crown, it only has the capacity to take 500 or so from Gaithersburg, and Gaithersburg High will still be 100% capacity. The city is still growing fast. It is UNFAIR to Gaithersburg!

Abcd is based on the old utilization numbers. The new numbers were released after those options came out (which made no sense, why couldn’t they have just waited?) and not only were the overcrowding issues no longer there, they could barely fill Crown.

They weren’t just taking 2000 Gaithersburg students and moving them to crown by the way. They were redistricting in a way that made no sense.

With this option H, Gaithersburg is actually within capacity. I heard it also leaves the ability to add another 500 seats at crown in the future should there be enough growth to support that.

You can go and check the numbers and compare abcd to h. Gaithersburg high schools are still very crowded. Hundreds of homes are being built there. Where are the kids going?

You say crowded but if you look at the metrics they are still under 100%.

The new builds- which developments specifically? The Grove is slated to go to Wootton, at least until they fix the elementary schools and do a study for them. The other builds with high end condos generally don’t have a ton of school aged children.

Look I completely understand why people in Crown are upset. They have been expecting a new neighborhood school. Unfortunately it’s part of the public school system and as it’s known to do fairly regularly mcps will change plans out of nowhere. But the neighborhood is losing a lot of goodwill with the nonsense they have been posting on social media. They would rather make sensational statements versus fact based statements. They are losing their credibility and making people mad.

Only Taylor changes plans out of nowhere.
The Board of Education has long term Planning Policies. Taylor is just ignoring all the Planning Policies.
The Board of Education will get sued and more money will go to outside lawyers making $650 an hour.

[Anonymous]

I voted for option H today.

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Anonymous wrote:I voted for option H today.

Voted where? Where was this imaginary vote outside of your head?

[Anonymous]

I would too if it doesn’t cost me anything, secures my cluster’s boundary or gets me to the walk zone.

Anonymous wrote:I voted for option H today.