End of Dept Ed

[Anonymous]

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exactly. There has been a 35 year agenda of demonizing public school and its worker.

People have short memory and don’t realize what life was like before the department of education.

Doesnt matter. The Federal Board of Ed. has earned the right to be disbanded because of how pathetic they are. Would you keep hiring the same losing coach or business manager over and over?? (Don't answer that Democrats, lol)
The data tells us, the messaging from the Board of Ed. leadership tells us everything. No one that works close to a school thinks it's working.
Have you see the math scores in California released by UC-San Diego for their freshman class? They had to start a grade school math program FOR COLLEGE STUDENTS!.

There is no “Federal Board of Ed.”

This! +1

The rest of PP's argument is junk when they start with clearly showing they have zero understanding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Public education has been ruined for years. Let it crash and burn and we’ll start over.

After our personal experience watching the once-great FCPS circle the drain and crumble around our teens, I agree that public education in the U.S. has indeed been ruined.

All the while: the U.S. Department of Education was fully funded. The departments existence only made the problems worse.

I am a democrat who supports education but I am glad to see the department dissolved.

Wrong. FCPS is the problem. I've worked in other states and FCPS is the issue not the department of education.

You’re not wrong but not right either. As others have mentioned, school districts operate independently from dept of education and their issues such as with FCPS are due to poor leadership.

The dept of education is simply unnecessary and wastes millions of dollars adding no value in educating children.

You seem to have zero knowledge of history. Prior to the civil rights era, the federal government had little involvement in education. However, due to segregation, it was necessary to intervene to end long standing discrimination. Every child deserves a chance at a quality education. The role of the US Dept of Ed is aimed at trying to ensure that. They are not perfect by no means. And, yes, there have been flawed policies.

Also, in a globally connected world, it is stupid to think that the education of a populace is not directly tied into the overall innovation and competitiveness of the country. Thus, it IS an issue for us as a nation if entire states are not educating their children.

[Anonymous]

It has been proven time and time and time again that the achievement gap is tied to income and parental involvement. There is no substitute for those things, no matter how hard to the government tries. They will just continue to flush money down the toilet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It has been proven time and time and time again that the achievement gap is tied to income and parental involvement. There is no substitute for those things, no matter how hard to the government tries. They will just continue to flush money down the toilet.

So your approach is to give up and not try to address disparities?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It has been proven time and time and time again that the achievement gap is tied to income and parental involvement. There is no substitute for those things, no matter how hard to the government tries. They will just continue to flush money down the toilet.

So your approach is to give up and not try to address disparities?

How are you supposed to address lack of parental involvement? You can’t make parents care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Public education didn’t just “go bad.” There has been a systematic attack on it for over 60 years after they were forced to integrate. Would it benefit from reforms? Yes! But destruction has been intentional.

Good luck America

Yes a systemic attack on it by teachers unions and overpaid layabout teachers more interesting in brainwashing then education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This. I began working in the schools when my own kids were in MS/HS after years SAH. It has been so eye opening. If I knew when they were younger what I know now, we would have done private K-12 and I plan to pay for my grandchildren to do just that.

Without major reform, public schools will become just for poor and special education students. Even middle class families will find a way out.

And I work at a “highly rated” school in a wealthy area with an active parents community. It’s still atrocious and the parents don’t seem to know. I didn’t back then.

Here's what very very basic reform looks like, aka every other 1st and 2nd world Country around the world, or America before 2010...

Eliminate the idea or semblance of DEI: Merit-based standards. If you're a quality student, you're in accelerated classes. If you're a quality student, Talented & Gifted/Advanced Placement classes exist, and are not cut or called racist by Democrats. Want to be in an AP course? Earn it.

Discipline: Discipline the bad kids, hold them back, more detention, extra assignments for punishment, for god sakes just make them read anything but their phone. Reading on a daily basis is the fastest way to improve IQ, outcomes, work ethic, academic quality.

Eliminate more administrators: Every school district, especially in the inner city has massive bloat in this area. You can easily eliminate 20% of administrators, and give 10% of that money back to the taxpayer, and the other 10% into actual teachers, sports coaches, extracurricular.
In my perfect world, the kids are at school 7am-5pm in the inner city. That's the only way they can accelerate and reach the rest of the kids in the country.
If Lizzo wanted to look like Beyonce, she'd have to devote herself to a daily grind over many year's to reach that. Same thing. Those are the circumstances Lizzo ended up with or caused herself to have (look like), so in order to get to Beyonce, she has to grind, just like these communities and school district's would have to.

If they don't? Then it remains status quo. You can argue against me, just accept that nothing will change for this large group of kids, while everyone else flocks to the best public school versions of a-still eroding system. The other's will talk about this 20 years later after they all went to private school.

I agree with this. And much of it has already occurred in my hometown: Baltimore.

Zero students (as in: none) are proficient in math at 23 different Baltimore public schools:

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/state-test-results-23-baltimore-schools-have-zero-students-proficient-in-math-jovani-patterson-maryland-comprehensive-assessment-program-maryland-governor-wes-moore

Look for other sources of this fact if you don’t like the local affiliate news. You’ll see it is true.

Before any leftist nut-job tries to blame this on school funding, Baltimore is the 4th highest funded large school system in the United States, spending ~$21,000 per pupil per year.

Baltimore’s high level of educational spending is almost double what OECD countries spend.
Overall, the literacy rate for the entire USA for high school graduates is only 80%, meaning 20% or 1/5th of high school graduates can't read proficiently.

For comparison, Japan spends $9,923 per pupil with a 99% literacy rate.

Baltimore’s solution here is: private schools. Private schools at every price-point. Catholic subsidized schools in poor neighborhoods are within reach to some residents at or near the poverty level (and scholarships are available).

If democrats continue to destroy public education across the U.S., they will have no one but themselves to blame for the growth of educational vouchers.

[Anonymous]

We need more schools at the parochial Catholic price point that are secular. The only options within a reasonable drive of us are Catholic or evangelical Christian, neither of which are okay with us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Grandma, did you forget to take your pill again?

Actually, am a man thank you very much. Sorry that you're unable to look at something that is a failure, and come up with ways to greatly improve and enhance it. Not everyone is going to be a winner.

If you did an experiment of the status quo, and then my idea and then year's down the road did an analysis, you would be embarrassed.

Okay! Whatever you say “grandpa.”

Yep, you're a democrat. Homework is no longer necessary like required reading but here we are, huh?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It has been proven time and time and time again that the achievement gap is tied to income and parental involvement. There is no substitute for those things, no matter how hard to the government tries. They will just continue to flush money down the toilet.

So your approach is to give up and not try to address disparities?

How are you supposed to address lack of parental involvement? You can’t make parents care.

If parents don't care, the kids don't care. If the kids are disruptive then bring back expulsion.

[Anonymous]

Well elementary education is now under the Dept. of Labor, so I think it means that MAGA wants child workers. The felon did say he wants the "golden age," which I think means the "gilded age."

So, child laborers it is so women can stay home and billionaires can get richer...MAGA!

[Anonymous]

I'm pp, I also heard today someone say that MAGA wants to build a "scrolling society," a-la Bread and Circuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It has been proven time and time and time again that the achievement gap is tied to income and parental involvement. There is no substitute for those things, no matter how hard to the government tries. They will just continue to flush money down the toilet.

So your approach is to give up and not try to address disparities?

How are you supposed to address lack of parental involvement? You can’t make parents care.

If parents don't care, the kids don't care. If the kids are disruptive then bring back expulsion.

Obama began the absurd mantra “school discipline is racist; expulsion is racist.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It has been proven time and time and time again that the achievement gap is tied to income and parental involvement. There is no substitute for those things, no matter how hard to the government tries. They will just continue to flush money down the toilet.

So your approach is to give up and not try to address disparities?

How are you supposed to address lack of parental involvement? You can’t make parents care.

If parents don't care, the kids don't care. If the kids are disruptive then bring back expulsion.

Obama began the absurd mantra “school discipline is racist; expulsion is racist.”

Says who?

[Anonymous]

Teacher here.

I'm no fan of Trump, but the "Race to the Top" grants under Obama (Arne Duncan) were a bridge way too far. Complete federal overreach. Duncan ended up resigning after that. I believe those grants would have been found unconstitutional at some point. For those on here who think that the Department of Education had no influence over K-12 education, you are wrong. They had a lot of influence through the testing mandates and grants/punitive actions tied to those test scores.