Percentage of BIPOCs at your child’s top pick

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Anonymous wrote:There are some safeties that my son likes, but he's a little worried about diversity, like Ohio U and University of New Hampshire. Both have less that 5% each Black, Asian and Hispanic, more than 80% white. We are in an area with a lot more Asian and Hispanic kids, so he doesn’t know what that would feel like.

The population of the State of New Hampshire is 89% white. Hispanic, black and Asian are less than 5% each.

UNH is a state school. The demographics of the student body make complete sense.

No one said the demographics don't make sense for the location. My son likes the schools' academics, sports and campus environments, but he is not sure if they will be a fit--strictly for this diversity reason. We aren't from NH or Ohio and he doesn't know if he will feel comfortable. I thought that was the original question of the thread? Does diversity impact your decision-making.

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Anonymous wrote:Where did the term BIPOC originate? It is dehumanizing and seems to no only serve people who can’t be bothered to see a non-white person as a person.

I hate the terms BIPOC and POC. Should we use “people of no color” (PONC) to describe White people?

This is like asking why there’s no Anglo-American History month. Bit&$, do you not understand that every month is Anglo-American History month. For all the whining about liberal snowflakes and wokeness, no group gets more butthurt about the prospect of ceding power and being the center of the culture than white people.

Over 70% of americans are white. Why is it so surprising that society reflects this?

For people of college age, 18-24, about 50% of America is white. So 70% would not be reflective of America as a whole. Which is the point.

The point of what? Are 50% of your friends white?

Actually now you mention it, probably 50% of my friends are white. But that is sort of irrelevant.

Point is that if you go to a school that is 70% white, that is a skewed sample. Just like if you go to a HBCU, that population would be skewed too. May be ok for you but may not be something someone else wants in their college experience. Why is that a problem for you?

How is it irrelevant? If your friends don’t match the changing demographics should you dumpm and recruit new ones? Do they span all age groups and religions as well? Why is this only important for college? What about your work place 50% white? Is it evenly split men vs women? What is the point of all this bean counting?

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Anonymous wrote:We would have gotten huge merit at Alabama, but crossed it off the list due to lack of diversity. We are a full pay POC family.

The University of Alabama's percentage of black students is roughly 12%. That is 1% below the population of the US, as a whole.

If you are black and would prefer a majority black university, that's fine. However, it doesn't mean Alabama "lacks in diversity."

This. Plus, the PP saying a school over 40% white is a problem. The US is majority white, but they want their college to be something different? Bizarre.

Overall the college students in the US is ~40% white. Now all the sudden a school is 60% white, that's not national average. A lot of maga kids dont' go to college. With trump promoting trade schools, the decline of the number of white college students will only continue.

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https://www.bestcolleges.com/research/diversity-in-higher-education-facts-statistics/
"White students, however, continue to account for the largest group of college students, making up about 40% of the total undergraduate population."

60% white colleges definitely are very behind in diversity.

Sounds like they are another minority group.

Correct. It's white affirmative action to get it up to 60% white.

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So what are we to infer from this thread? Many whites do not value diversity? You just tolerate non-white people? And that you'd be equally as happy to be at an all white institution. I find this utterly depressing.

Also you keep asking if we are in more "woke" times, but for many of us, this is our current reality. I don't want to send my kid to a school that only has 3% of other kids that look like him. That sounds horrible.

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Anonymous wrote:We would have gotten huge merit at Alabama, but crossed it off the list due to lack of diversity. We are a full pay POC family.

The University of Alabama's percentage of black students is roughly 12%. That is 1% below the population of the US, as a whole.

If you are black and would prefer a majority black university, that's fine. However, it doesn't mean Alabama "lacks in diversity."

This. Plus, the PP saying a school over 40% white is a problem. The US is majority white, but they want their college to be something different? Bizarre.

Overall the college students in the US is ~40% white. Now all the sudden a school is 60% white, that's not national average. A lot of maga kids dont' go to college. With trump promoting trade schools, the decline of the number of white college students will only continue.

Correct.
https://www.bestcolleges.com/research/diversity-in-higher-education-facts-statistics/
"White students, however, continue to account for the largest group of college students, making up about 40% of the total undergraduate population."

60% white colleges definitely are very behind in diversity.

Sounds like they are another minority group.

Correct. It's white affirmative action to get it up to 60% white.

Can you prove they are “getting it up” to a certain percentage/

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Anonymous wrote:There are some safeties that my son likes, but he's a little worried about diversity, like Ohio U and University of New Hampshire. Both have less that 5% each Black, Asian and Hispanic, more than 80% white. We are in an area with a lot more Asian and Hispanic kids, so he doesn’t know what that would feel like.

The population of the State of New Hampshire is 89% white. Hispanic, black and Asian are less than 5% each.

UNH is a state school. The demographics of the student body make complete sense.

No one said the demographics don't make sense for the location. My son likes the schools' academics, sports and campus environments, but he is not sure if they will be a fit--strictly for this diversity reason. We aren't from NH or Ohio and he doesn't know if he will feel comfortable. I thought that was the original question of the thread? Does diversity impact your decision-making.

No.

I would not have gone to UNH because I'm adverse to cold weather.

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Anonymous wrote:So what are we to infer from this thread? Many whites do not value diversity? You just tolerate non-white people? And that you'd be equally as happy to be at an all white institution. I find this utterly depressing.

Also you keep asking if we are in more "woke" times, but for many of us, this is our current reality. I don't want to send my kid to a school that only has 3% of other kids that look like him. That sounds horrible.

It means that people value other things more than just what their classmates look like. We all have our own priorities.

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Anonymous wrote:So what are we to infer from this thread? Many whites do not value diversity? You just tolerate non-white people? And that you'd be equally as happy to be at an all white institution. I find this utterly depressing.

Also you keep asking if we are in more "woke" times, but for many of us, this is our current reality. I don't want to send my kid to a school that only has 3% of other kids that look like him. That sounds horrible.

It means that people value other things more than just what their classmates look like. We all have our own priorities.

But that is not it. Lots of people on this thread saying people who value being in a diverse environment are “woke” or crazy. It’s not just that some people don’t care, they actively denigrate those who may consider diversity at all.

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Anonymous wrote:So what are we to infer from this thread? Many whites do not value diversity? You just tolerate non-white people? And that you'd be equally as happy to be at an all white institution. I find this utterly depressing.

Also you keep asking if we are in more "woke" times, but for many of us, this is our current reality. I don't want to send my kid to a school that only has 3% of other kids that look like him. That sounds horrible.

It means that people value other things more than just what their classmates look like. We all have our own priorities.

Can you share with us what they are?

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Anonymous wrote:Where did the term BIPOC originate? It is dehumanizing and seems to no only serve people who can’t be bothered to see a non-white person as a person.

I hate the terms BIPOC and POC. Should we use “people of no color” (PONC) to describe White people?

This is like asking why there’s no Anglo-American History month. Bit&$, do you not understand that every month is Anglo-American History month. For all the whining about liberal snowflakes and wokeness, no group gets more butthurt about the prospect of ceding power and being the center of the culture than white people.

Over 70% of americans are white. Why is it so surprising that society reflects this?

For people of college age, 18-24, about 50% of America is white. So 70% would not be reflective of America as a whole. Which is the point.

The point of what? Are 50% of your friends white?

Actually now you mention it, probably 50% of my friends are white. But that is sort of irrelevant.

Point is that if you go to a school that is 70% white, that is a skewed sample. Just like if you go to a HBCU, that population would be skewed too. May be ok for you but may not be something someone else wants in their college experience. Why is that a problem for you?

How is it irrelevant? If your friends don’t match the changing demographics should you dumpm and recruit new ones? Do they span all age groups and religions as well? Why is this only important for college? What about your work place 50% white? Is it evenly split men vs women? What is the point of all this bean counting?

My work place was less than 50% white and less than 50% male.

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Anonymous wrote:So what are we to infer from this thread? Many whites do not value diversity? You just tolerate non-white people? And that you'd be equally as happy to be at an all white institution. I find this utterly depressing.

Also you keep asking if we are in more "woke" times, but for many of us, this is our current reality. I don't want to send my kid to a school that only has 3% of other kids that look like him. That sounds horrible.

It means that people value other things more than just what their classmates look like. We all have our own priorities.

But that is not it. Lots of people on this thread saying people who value being in a diverse environment are “woke” or crazy. It’s not just that some people don’t care, they actively denigrate those who may consider diversity at all.

No, I am denigrating people who can’t write a post about diversity without being righteous. Just because one values diversity one is not better than wide swaths of the country that are less diverse.

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Anonymous wrote:My white kids have attended/attend a DCPS high school and they are very aware when we visit a college that is overwhelmingly white. They understand that no college is going to be as diverse as DCPS but it matters to them to be around people of different backgrounds, experiences, etc. They don't want to just hang out with white kids who have gone to majority white suburban schools in the midwest who have never met anyone of another color.

I wouldn't say no college is going to be as diverse as DCPS. Diversity is important to my DD. She has mapped our schools that have a good diversity profile. For example, Temple looks a lot like her DCPS (22% black, 11% Hispanic, 45% white and others). She also likes the diversity of Rutgers and a few others.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people still use this term?

Everyone still uses it.

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I hate the term biopic, but of course guys is a consideration. I am Indian American, born here. We value diversity in our family. We live in a country where race has become electrified. See the comments by JD about Usha and how Indians are made fun of on social media, how Trump refers to immigrants as illegals, and how her ghoulishly depicted the House Majority Leader inexplicably wearing a sombrero. I’m disgusted by many of the comments here, but clearly I’ve been deluding myself that the higher educated DCUM population is reasonable and not racist. Glad to see there are some white students who care to mix with others.

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Anonymous wrote:My white kids have attended/attend a DCPS high school and they are very aware when we visit a college that is overwhelmingly white. They understand that no college is going to be as diverse as DCPS but it matters to them to be around people of different backgrounds, experiences, etc. They don't want to just hang out with white kids who have gone to majority white suburban schools in the midwest who have never met anyone of another color.

Considering the number of DCPS kids who go to Wisconsin each year, this view is definitely not universal.

Wisconsin as in Madison?? its a super diverse university- not pre 1964 levels of racial integration. you can find those at certain schools but not flagship state universities, more likely available at Oberlin, Kenyon Juanita ... small schools that are uber liberal- those white kids have never met any "BIPOC" which is why they overcompensate and freak out about inconsequential non-issues that minority groups themselves dont care about due to having little to no actual exposure to any real life issues concerning minority groups.

Minority students dont exist in order give your kids an education or awareness of other cultures and help them become more worldly. The only ppl who should care about that stuff are kids of who belong to the specific cultures/religions so they know that they'll have access to food & fellowship (Hillel, MSA, Diwali celebrations) if and when the fancy strikes. general education in elementary school should've given your white kids the knowledge that they'll need to navigate a diversity of lifestyles and if it didn't its not minority students responsibility to educate them.