Given WW3, should we cancel Europe travel plans

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what are you talking about specifically? Airbnbs? Israel/Iran? Russia/Ukraine?

The US is going to war with Iran because Israel is too weak to fight Iran. This puts a target on all Americans.

THIS. Im the OP.

You are oblivious. Israel is kicking Iran's you-know-what, and shows every sign of continuing to do so until the Iranian regime collapses. And if U.S. support to Israel makes Americans targets, that ship has sailed. It's hardly news that U.S. intelligence, resupply, and deterrent capabilities have been in play from the outset; more direct intervention by US air or naval forces will just be more obvious and will hasten the Iranian regime's demise. The global threat to U.S. persons isn't going to change. If anything, Iran's capacity to direct terror attacks against U.S. people and interests will just collapse even faster than is already happening due to their losses from Israeli direct action against the IRGC and intelligence organs.

But, do feel free to shelter in place in your back yard bunker, for fear that the long arm of Iranian vengeance is going to reach out for you. The rest of us see Iran as the Black Knight, armless and legless, but for now claiming "tis but a scratch!".

For the Palestinian Philistine, here's the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs

Look up the 1980s. Achille Lauro. Lockerbie. Etc. All driven by chaos in the Middle East and North Africa.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what are you talking about specifically? Airbnbs? Israel/Iran? Russia/Ukraine?

The US is going to war with Iran because Israel is too weak to fight Iran. This puts a target on all Americans.

THIS. Im the OP.

You are oblivious. Israel is kicking Iran's you-know-what, and shows every sign of continuing to do so until the Iranian regime collapses. And if U.S. support to Israel makes Americans targets, that ship has sailed. It's hardly news that U.S. intelligence, resupply, and deterrent capabilities have been in play from the outset; more direct intervention by US air or naval forces will just be more obvious and will hasten the Iranian regime's demise. The global threat to U.S. persons isn't going to change. If anything, Iran's capacity to direct terror attacks against U.S. people and interests will just collapse even faster than is already happening due to their losses from Israeli direct action against the IRGC and intelligence organs.

But, do feel free to shelter in place in your back yard bunker, for fear that the long arm of Iranian vengeance is going to reach out for you. The rest of us see Iran as the Black Knight, armless and legless, but for now claiming "tis but a scratch!".

For the Palestinian Philistine, here's the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs

Look up the 1980s. Achille Lauro. Lockerbie. Etc. All driven by chaos in the Middle East and North Africa.

Former diplomat poster above. That's exactly what went through my mind. Rome airport too - I knew a flight attendant who was there. It wouldn't stop me from traveling on OP's plan, but terrorism increases in these situations, yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Supposed to leave for Europe this weekend until early July.

Everything says to cancel given what’s going on? Bombing of US ships? US involvement in military operations in ME. Larger outbreak?

Thoughts??

I would absolutely cancel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what are you talking about specifically? Airbnbs? Israel/Iran? Russia/Ukraine?

The US is going to war with Iran because Israel is too weak to fight Iran. This puts a target on all Americans.

THIS. Im the OP.

This makes me so angry. Israel should not start fights it cannot win and then drag us into them.

Hon, stay home and let some brave tourist from another country get that gorgeous Birkin in Paris. Europe will be fine without you!

I always stop reading after “hon” and “sweetie” - I have no desire to listen to posters that are both unserious and lame at the same time.

Agree. Though I think this is one poster. They have been at it for years in DCUM and seem to thrive on cosplaying high society and talking down to posters.

[Anonymous]

I would still go in the next few weeks. It will get worse later.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what are you talking about specifically? Airbnbs? Israel/Iran? Russia/Ukraine?

The US is going to war with Iran because Israel is too weak to fight Iran. This puts a target on all Americans.

THIS. Im the OP.

You are oblivious. Israel is kicking Iran's you-know-what, and shows every sign of continuing to do so until the Iranian regime collapses. And if U.S. support to Israel makes Americans targets, that ship has sailed. It's hardly news that U.S. intelligence, resupply, and deterrent capabilities have been in play from the outset; more direct intervention by US air or naval forces will just be more obvious and will hasten the Iranian regime's demise. The global threat to U.S. persons isn't going to change. If anything, Iran's capacity to direct terror attacks against U.S. people and interests will just collapse even faster than is already happening due to their losses from Israeli direct action against the IRGC and intelligence organs.

But, do feel free to shelter in place in your back yard bunker, for fear that the long arm of Iranian vengeance is going to reach out for you. The rest of us see Iran as the Black Knight, armless and legless, but for now claiming "tis but a scratch!".

For the Palestinian Philistine, here's the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs

Look up the 1980s. Achille Lauro. Lockerbie. Etc. All driven by chaos in the Middle East and North Africa.

Sure but that was 50 plus years ago. Achiie Lauro could not happen now because of defensive measures of cruise ships. Same way no one will take over a plane with box cutters. A bomb on a plane? World has changed and much harder. Sure not impossible but not at all likely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what are you talking about specifically? Airbnbs? Israel/Iran? Russia/Ukraine?

The US is going to war with Iran because Israel is too weak to fight Iran. This puts a target on all Americans.

THIS. Im the OP.

You are oblivious. Israel is kicking Iran's you-know-what, and shows every sign of continuing to do so until the Iranian regime collapses. And if U.S. support to Israel makes Americans targets, that ship has sailed. It's hardly news that U.S. intelligence, resupply, and deterrent capabilities have been in play from the outset; more direct intervention by US air or naval forces will just be more obvious and will hasten the Iranian regime's demise. The global threat to U.S. persons isn't going to change. If anything, Iran's capacity to direct terror attacks against U.S. people and interests will just collapse even faster than is already happening due to their losses from Israeli direct action against the IRGC and intelligence organs.

But, do feel free to shelter in place in your back yard bunker, for fear that the long arm of Iranian vengeance is going to reach out for you. The rest of us see Iran as the Black Knight, armless and legless, but for now claiming "tis but a scratch!".

For the Palestinian Philistine, here's the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs

Look up the 1980s. Achille Lauro. Lockerbie. Etc. All driven by chaos in the Middle East and North Africa.

Former diplomat poster above. That's exactly what went through my mind. Rome airport too - I knew a flight attendant who was there. It wouldn't stop me from traveling on OP's plan, but terrorism increases in these situations, yes.

Actually terrorism does not increase in these situations. Not at all. It i snot like the terrorists had a plan and the material and now will go active. Terrorism may increase more than a year after trigger events because it will take that time to dome something dramatic. Not jobs may attack with a gun or knife but that can happen a Metro station in DC. But blowing up a plane or an airport? Long way away from that. Also not at all clear that most Arab groups -- terror or otherwise would be upset with Iran being hurt. Most would cheer.

[Anonymous]

The world is full of danger, and now animus against America. But I would still go. Enjoy your trip and be cautious.

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Anonymous wrote:A good outcome would be locals being able to afford housing where rent and property values aren't driven up by tourists flooding Airbnbs.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Supposed to leave for Europe this weekend until early July.

Everything says to cancel given what’s going on? Bombing of US ships? US involvement in military operations in ME. Larger outbreak?

Thoughts??

I would absolutely cancel.

Really?
Also in same boat as Op. curious if we should be canceling travel to europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would still go in the next few weeks. It will get worse later.

What gets worse in a few weeks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Supposed to leave for Europe this weekend until early July.

Everything says to cancel given what’s going on? Bombing of US ships? US involvement in military operations in ME. Larger outbreak?

Thoughts??

We have canceled our flights to return to the US. Lucky for me, my DH is EU. Looking at properties to buy today and going to sell our house in VA. Relative will oversea the packing of the one container of belongs we will ship; remainder is estate sale/donation.

[Anonymous]

We are going to England in October. I planned this trip about a year ago and in January I wanted to cancel. I didn’t, and recently started making plans in earnest and was glad I didn’t cancel. Now I’m back to feeling concerned again. But we are planning on going.

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Don’t travel near any us military bases. They are preparing now to bomb them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Supposed to leave for Europe this weekend until early July.

Everything says to cancel given what’s going on? Bombing of US ships? US involvement in military operations in ME. Larger outbreak?

Thoughts??

We have canceled our flights to return to the US. Lucky for me, my DH is EU. Looking at properties to buy today and going to sell our house in VA. Relative will oversea the packing of the one container of belongs we will ship; remainder is estate sale/donation.

I am so jealous! Lucky you. Enjoy your new chapter!