Pressure cooker schools

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Anonymous wrote:Bucknell, Virginia Tech, Davidson

My son just graduated from VT, and it definitely wasn't a pressure cooker. Challenging, sure, but he and his friends seemed to be pretty relaxed about it and had a lot of fun too (STEM major, not engineering, and not in a frat if that matters).

VT is not even known as a work hard play hard school. It is a good school, but definitely not a pressure cooker. They don’t even have weed out classes in engineering like many other schools have.

That definitely wasn’t true back in the day. I knew lots of really smart kids who washed out of tech engineering.

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Swarthmore. Felt way more intense than the rest of the WASP schools

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Anonymous wrote:VT is not even known as a work hard play hard school. It is a good school, but definitely not a pressure cooker. They don’t even have weed out classes in engineering like many other schools have.

Laugh. TJ grad’s experience is that VT had multiple weed-out classes in the first 2 years. It is well known their Junior year Engineering student numbers are visibly lower than for Freshman year in Engineering. Its beneficial for down-state smart kids with fewer HS opportunities, to be sure, but to claim no weed out classes is pretty rich.

The average VT engineering student has an SAT math of 700. That is a low average of course many will be weeded out. For those attending with 750-800 they find it easy. Its a joke compared to cornell or hopkins or other ivy engineering

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Montgomery College - Germantown Campus

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Culinary Institute of America.

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Anonymous wrote:Swarthmore. Felt way more intense than the rest of the WASP schools

I don't know why, but swat makes it such an unnecessary aspect of their identity. DD goes to Williams and DS goes to Pomona and DH is an Amherst alum, so we really love the liberal arts colleges. Both of my kids work like bulls and have much more intense college academic experiences than I did at Dartmouth years ago, but the environment outside the classroom isn't stressful. My visits to Swarthmore left me the impression that it would be a pretty insufferable 4 years there.

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Anonymous wrote:Culinary Institute of America.

LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:+2. Everything I’ve read recently suggests that UChicago is no longer cut throat pressure cooker?

Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, so it's not the pressure cooker it was, and a lot of alumni are upset about it. It was part of the charm - where fun goes to die and somehow you survive.

I think these days Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, and Berkeley are the worst - mostly because they are all very good at STEM but absolutely garbage at managing human beings, particularly 18-22 year olds. Very stressful schools for those students in already difficult majors.

Perhaps it's not the pressure cooker because it's now more collaborative than competitive? Maybe the students are just nicer now than the UChicago of before.

I don't want to derail this thread into the usual cesspool of Chicago hatred, but I do think it's ironic that the school gets flak for being a pressure cooker, and also gets flak for attempting to lower the pressure (relaxing common core reqs, expanding the Greek system, admitting more "fun"/athletic kids). Can't win.

Because there are 3000 schools. Plenty for everyone to find a fit. Chicago can’t seem to figure out what that fit is in 2026. Whereas in the past, it was clear. Do they want quirky intellectuals who think their weird essays are cool and are willing to grind? Or to the way frat boys and fun kids? Do they want to be work hard and to attract kids who an intellectually curious and thrive on the grind? Work hard, play hard, play hard? When my kid considered them 5 years ago, it was clear what they were and after 4 years of TJ, we discouraged another school that was full of very smart kids, but a grind. But there was nothing wrong with who they were, and TJ kids lined up to apply.

Now, who TF knows? They seem to be having an identify crisis or something. They stood for something and their education was something specific 5 years ago. Now? It’s about beer pong with the serious Marxist economic scholars. Like, WTF? All they stand for is ED and ensuring as many full pay students as possible. Nothing special about that.

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Anonymous wrote:+2. Everything I’ve read recently suggests that UChicago is no longer cut throat pressure cooker?

Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, so it's not the pressure cooker it was, and a lot of alumni are upset about it. It was part of the charm - where fun goes to die and somehow you survive.

I think these days Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, and Berkeley are the worst - mostly because they are all very good at STEM but absolutely garbage at managing human beings, particularly 18-22 year olds. Very stressful schools for those students in already difficult majors.

Perhaps it's not the pressure cooker because it's now more collaborative than competitive? Maybe the students are just nicer now than the UChicago of before.

I don't want to derail this thread into the usual cesspool of Chicago hatred, but I do think it's ironic that the school gets flak for being a pressure cooker, and also gets flak for attempting to lower the pressure (relaxing common core reqs, expanding the Greek system, admitting more "fun"/athletic kids). Can't win.

Because there are 3000 schools. Plenty for everyone to find a fit. Chicago can’t seem to figure out what that fit is in 2026. Whereas in the past, it was clear. Do they want quirky intellectuals who think their weird essays are cool and are willing to grind? Or to the way frat boys and fun kids? Do they want to be work hard and to attract kids who an intellectually curious and thrive on the grind? Work hard, play hard, play hard? When my kid considered them 5 years ago, it was clear what they were and after 4 years of TJ, we discouraged another school that was full of very smart kids, but a grind. But there was nothing wrong with who they were, and TJ kids lined up to apply.

Now, who TF knows? They seem to be having an identify crisis or something. They stood for something and their education was something specific 5 years ago. Now? It’s about beer pong with the serious Marxist economic scholars. Like, WTF? All they stand for is ED and ensuring as many full pay students as possible. Nothing special about that.

This really isn't that difficult. They want a diverse background student who actually wants to go to UChicago. It's about creating a community that is intentional and sees Chicago as its first choice. You will get a rigorous academic experience at Chicago, no matter who you are, because they have the quarter system and a focus on theory.

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Anonymous wrote:Culinary Institute of America.

I know a kid who went to CIA. Looked forward to getting back to CIA compared to the slave torture of work at a Michelin star kitchen in NYC.

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Anonymous wrote:+2. Everything I’ve read recently suggests that UChicago is no longer cut throat pressure cooker?

Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, so it's not the pressure cooker it was, and a lot of alumni are upset about it. It was part of the charm - where fun goes to die and somehow you survive.

I think these days Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, and Berkeley are the worst - mostly because they are all very good at STEM but absolutely garbage at managing human beings, particularly 18-22 year olds. Very stressful schools for those students in already difficult majors.

Perhaps it's not the pressure cooker because it's now more collaborative than competitive? Maybe the students are just nicer now than the UChicago of before.

I don't want to derail this thread into the usual cesspool of Chicago hatred, but I do think it's ironic that the school gets flak for being a pressure cooker, and also gets flak for attempting to lower the pressure (relaxing common core reqs, expanding the Greek system, admitting more "fun"/athletic kids). Can't win.

Because there are 3000 schools. Plenty for everyone to find a fit. Chicago can’t seem to figure out what that fit is in 2026. Whereas in the past, it was clear. Do they want quirky intellectuals who think their weird essays are cool and are willing to grind? Or to the way frat boys and fun kids? Do they want to be work hard and to attract kids who an intellectually curious and thrive on the grind? Work hard, play hard, play hard? When my kid considered them 5 years ago, it was clear what they were and after 4 years of TJ, we discouraged another school that was full of very smart kids, but a grind. But there was nothing wrong with who they were, and TJ kids lined up to apply.

Now, who TF knows? They seem to be having an identify crisis or something. They stood for something and their education was something specific 5 years ago. Now? It’s about beer pong with the serious Marxist economic scholars. Like, WTF? All they stand for is ED and ensuring as many full pay students as possible. Nothing special about that.

This really isn't that difficult. They want a diverse background student who actually wants to go to UChicago. It's about creating a community that is intentional and sees Chicago as its first choice. You will get a rigorous academic experience at Chicago, no matter who you are, because they have the quarter system and a focus on theory.

I was a nerdy quirky type. I was interested in U Chicago 30 years ago but now I think there are other colleges that have done a better job of remaining true to their identity.

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Anonymous wrote:+2. Everything I’ve read recently suggests that UChicago is no longer cut throat pressure cooker?

Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, so it's not the pressure cooker it was, and a lot of alumni are upset about it. It was part of the charm - where fun goes to die and somehow you survive.

I think these days Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, and Berkeley are the worst - mostly because they are all very good at STEM but absolutely garbage at managing human beings, particularly 18-22 year olds. Very stressful schools for those students in already difficult majors.

Perhaps it's not the pressure cooker because it's now more collaborative than competitive? Maybe the students are just nicer now than the UChicago of before.

I don't want to derail this thread into the usual cesspool of Chicago hatred, but I do think it's ironic that the school gets flak for being a pressure cooker, and also gets flak for attempting to lower the pressure (relaxing common core reqs, expanding the Greek system, admitting more "fun"/athletic kids). Can't win.

Because there are 3000 schools. Plenty for everyone to find a fit. Chicago can’t seem to figure out what that fit is in 2026. Whereas in the past, it was clear. Do they want quirky intellectuals who think their weird essays are cool and are willing to grind? Or to the way frat boys and fun kids? Do they want to be work hard and to attract kids who an intellectually curious and thrive on the grind? Work hard, play hard, play hard? When my kid considered them 5 years ago, it was clear what they were and after 4 years of TJ, we discouraged another school that was full of very smart kids, but a grind. But there was nothing wrong with who they were, and TJ kids lined up to apply.

Now, who TF knows? They seem to be having an identify crisis or something. They stood for something and their education was something specific 5 years ago. Now? It’s about beer pong with the serious Marxist economic scholars. Like, WTF? All they stand for is ED and ensuring as many full pay students as possible. Nothing special about that.

This really isn't that difficult. They want a diverse background student who actually wants to go to UChicago. It's about creating a community that is intentional and sees Chicago as its first choice. You will get a rigorous academic experience at Chicago, no matter who you are, because they have the quarter system and a focus on theory.

I was a nerdy quirky type. I was interested in U Chicago 30 years ago but now I think there are other colleges that have done a better job of remaining true to their identity.

DC is the quirky nerdy type. UChicago is the first choice. Decided on ED there over Swarthmore and Williams.

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Anonymous wrote:+2. Everything I’ve read recently suggests that UChicago is no longer cut throat pressure cooker?

Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, so it's not the pressure cooker it was, and a lot of alumni are upset about it. It was part of the charm - where fun goes to die and somehow you survive.

I think these days Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, and Berkeley are the worst - mostly because they are all very good at STEM but absolutely garbage at managing human beings, particularly 18-22 year olds. Very stressful schools for those students in already difficult majors.

Perhaps it's not the pressure cooker because it's now more collaborative than competitive? Maybe the students are just nicer now than the UChicago of before.

I don't want to derail this thread into the usual cesspool of Chicago hatred, but I do think it's ironic that the school gets flak for being a pressure cooker, and also gets flak for attempting to lower the pressure (relaxing common core reqs, expanding the Greek system, admitting more "fun"/athletic kids). Can't win.

Because there are 3000 schools. Plenty for everyone to find a fit. Chicago can’t seem to figure out what that fit is in 2026. Whereas in the past, it was clear. Do they want quirky intellectuals who think their weird essays are cool and are willing to grind? Or to the way frat boys and fun kids? Do they want to be work hard and to attract kids who an intellectually curious and thrive on the grind? Work hard, play hard, play hard? When my kid considered them 5 years ago, it was clear what they were and after 4 years of TJ, we discouraged another school that was full of very smart kids, but a grind. But there was nothing wrong with who they were, and TJ kids lined up to apply.

Now, who TF knows? They seem to be having an identify crisis or something. They stood for something and their education was something specific 5 years ago. Now? It’s about beer pong with the serious Marxist economic scholars. Like, WTF? All they stand for is ED and ensuring as many full pay students as possible. Nothing special about that.

Sounds like UChicago & Northwestern are gradually exchanging identities.

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Anonymous wrote:+2. Everything I’ve read recently suggests that UChicago is no longer cut throat pressure cooker?

Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, so it's not the pressure cooker it was, and a lot of alumni are upset about it. It was part of the charm - where fun goes to die and somehow you survive.

I think these days Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, and Berkeley are the worst - mostly because they are all very good at STEM but absolutely garbage at managing human beings, particularly 18-22 year olds. Very stressful schools for those students in already difficult majors.

Perhaps it's not the pressure cooker because it's now more collaborative than competitive? Maybe the students are just nicer now than the UChicago of before.

I don't want to derail this thread into the usual cesspool of Chicago hatred, but I do think it's ironic that the school gets flak for being a pressure cooker, and also gets flak for attempting to lower the pressure (relaxing common core reqs, expanding the Greek system, admitting more "fun"/athletic kids). Can't win.

Because there are 3000 schools. Plenty for everyone to find a fit. Chicago can’t seem to figure out what that fit is in 2026. Whereas in the past, it was clear. Do they want quirky intellectuals who think their weird essays are cool and are willing to grind? Or to the way frat boys and fun kids? Do they want to be work hard and to attract kids who an intellectually curious and thrive on the grind? Work hard, play hard, play hard? When my kid considered them 5 years ago, it was clear what they were and after 4 years of TJ, we discouraged another school that was full of very smart kids, but a grind. But there was nothing wrong with who they were, and TJ kids lined up to apply.

Now, who TF knows? They seem to be having an identify crisis or something. They stood for something and their education was something specific 5 years ago. Now? It’s about beer pong with the serious Marxist economic scholars. Like, WTF? All they stand for is ED and ensuring as many full pay students as possible. Nothing special about that.

Sounds like UChicago & Northwestern are gradually exchanging identities.

I have a nerdy freshman at Northwestern who LOVES it. However, I do not think it's similar to UChicago's culture, past or present.

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Anonymous wrote:+2. Everything I’ve read recently suggests that UChicago is no longer cut throat pressure cooker?

Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, so it's not the pressure cooker it was, and a lot of alumni are upset about it. It was part of the charm - where fun goes to die and somehow you survive.

I think these days Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, and Berkeley are the worst - mostly because they are all very good at STEM but absolutely garbage at managing human beings, particularly 18-22 year olds. Very stressful schools for those students in already difficult majors.

Perhaps it's not the pressure cooker because it's now more collaborative than competitive? Maybe the students are just nicer now than the UChicago of before.

I don't want to derail this thread into the usual cesspool of Chicago hatred, but I do think it's ironic that the school gets flak for being a pressure cooker, and also gets flak for attempting to lower the pressure (relaxing common core reqs, expanding the Greek system, admitting more "fun"/athletic kids). Can't win.

Because there are 3000 schools. Plenty for everyone to find a fit. Chicago can’t seem to figure out what that fit is in 2026. Whereas in the past, it was clear. Do they want quirky intellectuals who think their weird essays are cool and are willing to grind? Or to the way frat boys and fun kids? Do they want to be work hard and to attract kids who an intellectually curious and thrive on the grind? Work hard, play hard, play hard? When my kid considered them 5 years ago, it was clear what they were and after 4 years of TJ, we discouraged another school that was full of very smart kids, but a grind. But there was nothing wrong with who they were, and TJ kids lined up to apply.

Now, who TF knows? They seem to be having an identify crisis or something. They stood for something and their education was something specific 5 years ago. Now? It’s about beer pong with the serious Marxist economic scholars. Like, WTF? All they stand for is ED and ensuring as many full pay students as possible. Nothing special about that.

Sounds like UChicago & Northwestern are gradually exchanging identities.

Recently visited both with my son. Smart, sporty, work hard, play hard type. Definitely imagines himself in a fraternity. Both schools were filled with very, very nerdy kids. Yes, there were more mainstream kids here and there, but it was overwhelmingly the “quirky” type at both schools. I do think Chicago is changing, but not quite to the level we had hoped. I was imagining Duke in 1995. Nope.