| Is Swarthmore cutthroat or collaborative? I’ve heard it described as both. Does it depend on your major? |
Uh, 2013? Swathmore doesn't even tell students their GPAs. https://swarthmorephoenix.com/2024/03/28/its-time-for-swarthmore-to-tell-us-our-gpas/ |
| Omg Cornell. Especially CS/Math, regardless of whether in engineering or arts and sciences. Too many awesome opptys that the kids want to do all together and all at once, with little advising on how to balance it. |
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Remove Penn, add UChicago |
+1 seems like misinformation |
| +2. Everything I’ve read recently suggests that UChicago is no longer cut throat pressure cooker? |
The others are selling you a different product, but it is all the same. Some colleges just pretend to be chill to attract a student body (looking at you Pomona), and others are just not as self-obsessed with being described as rigorous as Swarthmore is. |
not...really. The GPAs suck at Mudd and students are used to getting steamrolled by their majors. Great start for a phd program though. |
| We removed Cornell from our list. When we toured, we casually spoke with some young women in a cafe and asked about the academic environment. They said that econ and engineer majors work 90-100 hours a week. But they said if you are in the ILR school and some other majors, there is better balance. One of the girls was pre-vet so she said the work is pretty intense. They were not unhappy, but seemed like a tough place. And depending on your preferences, studying in a remote location with months of cold, cloudy days may not be good. |
Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, so it's not the pressure cooker it was, and a lot of alumni are upset about it. It was part of the charm - where fun goes to die and somehow you survive. I think these days Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, and Berkeley are the worst - mostly because they are all very good at STEM but absolutely garbage at managing human beings, particularly 18-22 year olds. Very stressful schools for those students in already difficult majors. |
+1 |
Chicago grads sound a bit insufferable. Surprised they can work with us meager fools with how highly they must think of themselves. |
They are not insufferable but the essay prompts ensure they are a bit weird. |
Did you even read the article you cited? They don't include GPA on semester grade reports, but they certainly give grades, and students are free to calculate their GPA. The school even provides a calculator on their website to do so. According to the link I provided, the median Swarthmore GPA at graduation rose from around 2.8 in the 1980s to almost 3.6 in 2013. Are you implying it has trended back the other way in the last decade? Any evidence to support this claim? ("Tour guides say a B here is an A everywhere else" doesn't count as evidence.) |