I don't know why, but swat makes it such an unnecessary aspect of their identity. DD goes to Williams and DS goes to Pomona and DH is an Amherst alum, so we really love the liberal arts colleges. Both of my kids work like bulls and have much more intense college academic experiences than I did at Dartmouth years ago, but the environment outside the classroom isn't stressful. My visits to Swarthmore left me the impression that it would be a pretty insufferable 4 years there. |
LOL. |
Because there are 3000 schools. Plenty for everyone to find a fit. Chicago can’t seem to figure out what that fit is in 2026. Whereas in the past, it was clear. Do they want quirky intellectuals who think their weird essays are cool and are willing to grind? Or to the way frat boys and fun kids? Do they want to be work hard and to attract kids who an intellectually curious and thrive on the grind? Work hard, play hard, play hard? When my kid considered them 5 years ago, it was clear what they were and after 4 years of TJ, we discouraged another school that was full of very smart kids, but a grind. But there was nothing wrong with who they were, and TJ kids lined up to apply. Now, who TF knows? They seem to be having an identify crisis or something. They stood for something and their education was something specific 5 years ago. Now? It’s about beer pong with the serious Marxist economic scholars. Like, WTF? All they stand for is ED and ensuring as many full pay students as possible. Nothing special about that. |
This really isn't that difficult. They want a diverse background student who actually wants to go to UChicago. It's about creating a community that is intentional and sees Chicago as its first choice. You will get a rigorous academic experience at Chicago, no matter who you are, because they have the quarter system and a focus on theory. |
I know a kid who went to CIA. Looked forward to getting back to CIA compared to the slave torture of work at a Michelin star kitchen in NYC. |
I was a nerdy quirky type. I was interested in U Chicago 30 years ago but now I think there are other colleges that have done a better job of remaining true to their identity. |
DC is the quirky nerdy type. UChicago is the first choice. Decided on ED there over Swarthmore and Williams. |
Sounds like UChicago & Northwestern are gradually exchanging identities. |
I have a nerdy freshman at Northwestern who LOVES it. However, I do not think it's similar to UChicago's culture, past or present. |
Recently visited both with my son. Smart, sporty, work hard, play hard type. Definitely imagines himself in a fraternity. Both schools were filled with very, very nerdy kids. Yes, there were more mainstream kids here and there, but it was overwhelmingly the “quirky” type at both schools. I do think Chicago is changing, but not quite to the level we had hoped. I was imagining Duke in 1995. Nope. |
It's one of the most demanding schools in the country. You have to truly put in substantial effort to get an A in the classes there. People cross-register in MIT humanities and arts because they're known to be much easier than the Wellesley counterparts. Grade deflation hard cap is no longer a thing for most departments, but the economics department does seem to institute it softly (median grade tends to be a B+ in most classes). More than half of the students get cum laude+ honors these days which is a 3.6, so a good GPA is definitely attainable with hard work The school is supportive and collaborative. Faculty are extremely caring and most students want their peers to thrive and succeed equally. Not a cutthroat environment by any means. But very, very academically focused- pressure cooker definitely fits. Almost everyone is up till late night studying. Less emphasis on busy work and more intellectually fulfilling, detailed readings and assignments, but still, academics dominate everything. Not much of a social scene in the actual campus. While the students are nice, they do tend to study individually for the most part- not as outright collaborative as some other LACs. |
Such as? |
+100. I’m a current Wellesley student. Wellesley previously had cross-registration with Harvard, but took away that program in the early 2000’s as administration said Harvard classes were not up to par to Wellesley standards and were too easy. |
Northwestern, Duke, BU, William and Mary |
Carleton, William & Mary, Rice |