Strong GPA at Big 3?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anecdotal among my senior’s friend group this year at a coed big3 …. An unhooked girl with similar is going to T10; slightly hooked, non-legacy kid going to Yale. My own very unhooked kid with identical stats is going to a T15 using ED1.

Those stats are good enough to aim high. Do NOT let DCUM tell you “it’s a lottery” or that a 3.7 from Sidwell, GDS or STA/NCS can’t compete with 4.4s from public schools. You’ll get to see naviance only with the college counselor controlling access. This is of limited utility because you can see the points on the GPA/SAT graph for a given college but you can’t know if the kids had hooks.

Not true that you can’t see hooks - they are plotted by dots and a diamond instead of a dot is a kid with a hook

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn't that hard people.

If you kid has a 3.5 or higher and a 1500 or higher at a big3, they are "qualified" for any school in the country. But those schools have a very small acceptance rate, even for kids at the top of the grade and score spectrum.

So...it really doesn't matter where your kid "stands" - find some schools they like and make sure they send in the best applications they can and let the chips fall where they will.

Whether it is a 3.5 or 3.86 doesn't matter. Whether it is a 1510 or 1580 doesn't matter. They reach the threshold for consideration and from there, may get lucky.

When you are talking about 3%-10% admission rates, it is a lottery and there is only so much you can do to stand out in a sea of thousands of qualified applicants.

THIS

and pretty much the only thing that changes THIS is being a highly recruited / D1 athlete or the child of a gazillionaire

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Anonymous wrote:I just find this so, so odd. The "Big 3" are supposed to be elite high schools, above the fray socially and academically, among the best in the country, and with outstanding guidance departments and college placement.

Yet, here are parents on an anonymous board fishing for information on where their kids' GPAs place them among their classmates and what colleges they can expect to get into. I have to wonder if this ever goes on at, say, the elite boarding schools or top NYC privates. I'll bet it doesn't, certainly not to this extent, and it makes me wonder -- just how special is the Big 3, really, if the families there act like this?

This all common knowledge and many schools give full Naviance logins junior year onward to families. That’s when manybstart touring if they didn’t already w older siblings or via their sport.

None of the big3 have full naviance logins.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just find this so, so odd. The "Big 3" are supposed to be elite high schools, above the fray socially and academically, among the best in the country, and with outstanding guidance departments and college placement.

Yet, here are parents on an anonymous board fishing for information on where their kids' GPAs place them among their classmates and what colleges they can expect to get into. I have to wonder if this ever goes on at, say, the elite boarding schools or top NYC privates. I'll bet it doesn't, certainly not to this extent, and it makes me wonder -- just how special is the Big 3, really, if the families there act like this?

This all common knowledge and many schools give full Naviance logins junior year onward to families. That’s when manybstart touring if they didn’t already w older siblings or via their sport.

None of the big3 have full naviance logins.

Wrong! NCS has.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just find this so, so odd. The "Big 3" are supposed to be elite high schools, above the fray socially and academically, among the best in the country, and with outstanding guidance departments and college placement.

Yet, here are parents on an anonymous board fishing for information on where their kids' GPAs place them among their classmates and what colleges they can expect to get into. I have to wonder if this ever goes on at, say, the elite boarding schools or top NYC privates. I'll bet it doesn't, certainly not to this extent, and it makes me wonder -- just how special is the Big 3, really, if the families there act like this?

This all common knowledge and many schools give full Naviance logins junior year onward to families. That’s when manybstart touring if they didn’t already w older siblings or via their sport.

Our private does not. Even kids do not have access to Naviance.

Ask your public school friends for a login then.

[Anonymous]

Wow they really want to keep us in the dark about their stats and others schools and the colleges. Lots of data out there, funny how DC private schools don’t want parents to have it.

Just shut up and comply, they’ll tell you the little $80k liberal arts slac your kid got in to.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a 3.8 Big3 kid and would be thrilled with Vanderbilt.

DC’s BF @ top NYC private with 3.9 GPA, 1560 SAT, and 2 800 SAT Subject tests - rejected @ Vanderbilt.

It’s a really good school. The idea that one would complain of only being accepted there is strange.

What? Your reply doesn't make any sense.

Either way, sometimes a school like that will reject you stellar too student because they assume s/he will not accept, or they were the safety. Happens all the time.
They or their counselor should have strongly signaled Vanderbilt that it was the kids too choice over all others and possible financings, a couple times. This is also common sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow they really want to keep us in the dark about their stats and others schools and the colleges. Lots of data out there, funny how DC private schools don’t want parents to have it.

Just shut up and comply, they’ll tell you the little $80k liberal arts slac your kid got in to.

What does this mean? SLAC is bad?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just find this so, so odd. The "Big 3" are supposed to be elite high schools, above the fray socially and academically, among the best in the country, and with outstanding guidance departments and college placement.

Yet, here are parents on an anonymous board fishing for information on where their kids' GPAs place them among their classmates and what colleges they can expect to get into. I have to wonder if this ever goes on at, say, the elite boarding schools or top NYC privates. I'll bet it doesn't, certainly not to this extent, and it makes me wonder -- just how special is the Big 3, really, if the families there act like this?

This all common knowledge and many schools give full Naviance logins junior year onward to families. That’s when manybstart touring if they didn’t already w older siblings or via their sport.

Our private does not. Even kids do not have access to Naviance.

Ask your public school friends for a login then.

How would that help? Your own school's scattergram and admission stats are the most useful part.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a 3.8 Big3 kid and would be thrilled with Vanderbilt.

DC’s BF @ top NYC private with 3.9 GPA, 1560 SAT, and 2 800 SAT Subject tests - rejected @ Vanderbilt.

It’s a really good school. The idea that one would complain of only being accepted there is strange.

What? Your reply doesn't make any sense.

Either way, sometimes a school like that will reject you stellar too student because they assume s/he will not accept, or they were the safety. Happens all the time.
They or their counselor should have strongly signaled Vanderbilt that it was the kids too choice over all others and possible financings, a couple times. This is also common sense.

That's what ED is, not an EA or RD app. The kid EDed. What possibly stronger signal exists than ED - none.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just find this so, so odd. The "Big 3" are supposed to be elite high schools, above the fray socially and academically, among the best in the country, and with outstanding guidance departments and college placement.

Yet, here are parents on an anonymous board fishing for information on where their kids' GPAs place them among their classmates and what colleges they can expect to get into. I have to wonder if this ever goes on at, say, the elite boarding schools or top NYC privates. I'll bet it doesn't, certainly not to this extent, and it makes me wonder -- just how special is the Big 3, really, if the families there act like this?

This all common knowledge and many schools give full Naviance logins junior year onward to families. That’s when manybstart touring if they didn’t already w older siblings or via their sport.

None of the big3 have full naviance logins.

Wrong! NCS has.

+2 NCS gives full access to kids and parents starting in 11th grade

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Anonymous wrote:I just find this so, so odd. The "Big 3" are supposed to be elite high schools, above the fray socially and academically, among the best in the country, and with outstanding guidance departments and college placement.

Yet, here are parents on an anonymous board fishing for information on where their kids' GPAs place them among their classmates and what colleges they can expect to get into. I have to wonder if this ever goes on at, say, the elite boarding schools or top NYC privates. I'll bet it doesn't, certainly not to this extent, and it makes me wonder -- just how special is the Big 3, really, if the families there act like this?

This all common knowledge and many schools give full Naviance logins junior year onward to families. That’s when manybstart touring if they didn’t already w older siblings or via their sport.

None of the big3 have full naviance logins.

Wrong! NCS has.

+2 NCS gives full access to kids and parents starting in 11th grade

True, but you can't see hooks, can you? That would be helpful to avoid a false sense of optimism.

[Anonymous]

That's silly. You don't get to read the personal essays or the teacher recs either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's silly. You don't get to read the personal essays or the teacher recs either.

That's not quite the same. I think the claim that a lot of people make on these boards is that all things being equal, most admits to top schools from area privates fall into some hooked category. So I can look at SCOIR (in the case of NCS) and see an encouraging number of green dots for a particular school or schools. But if 4 out of 5 of the green dots were legacies and my DD is not, and 4/5 of the red dots are not legacies, then that would be helpful to know, just to be realistic. My DD can make her own assessment of the likelihood that she will write a good essay or get good recommendations. But if the success that NCS or another top private has at certain colleges is heavily weighted towards legacies or some other group, then that would be a helpful data point. That's all. And besides, someone above made the point that in Naviance you can identify hooked status. I have no experience with Naviance, so could not say whether it is true. So I was drawing that distinction as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just find this so, so odd. The "Big 3" are supposed to be elite high schools, above the fray socially and academically, among the best in the country, and with outstanding guidance departments and college placement.

Yet, here are parents on an anonymous board fishing for information on where their kids' GPAs place them among their classmates and what colleges they can expect to get into. I have to wonder if this ever goes on at, say, the elite boarding schools or top NYC privates. I'll bet it doesn't, certainly not to this extent, and it makes me wonder -- just how special is the Big 3, really, if the families there act like this?

This all common knowledge and many schools give full Naviance logins junior year onward to families. That’s when manybstart touring if they didn’t already w older siblings or via their sport.

None of the big3 have full naviance logins.

Wrong! NCS has.

+2 NCS gives full access to kids and parents starting in 11th grade

True, but you can't see hooks, can you? That would be helpful to avoid a false sense of optimism.

Public school students/parents cannot see hooks either. Why can't other big 3 schools give the same access that NCS or public schools give?