Can I sue Callie Oettinger?

[Anonymous]

I received a letter from FCPS regarding the information leak of only one of my kids, whom as far as I know was never in any special services and never in trouble. I now want to reach out to FCPS to know what they documented about my child that was leaked and if this information they documented could potentially affect college applications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She could have sent the thumb drive back so they know what she took.

WTH does this even mean.? How would the "know what she took."? Memaw here doesn't seem to understand things.

You seem confused. If they are claiming they don't know what data she has, if she gave the thumb drive back they would be able to see what documents they gave her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I received a letter from FCPS regarding the information leak of only one of my kids, whom as far as I know was never in any special services and never in trouble. I now want to reach out to FCPS to know what they documented about my child that was leaked and if this information they documented could potentially affect college applications.

All the contractor is telling people is that they can send an email to the "[e-mail]" inbox to ask.
Fcps seems to be trying to avoid any specifics---but I agree that they must
Know what they gave the parent because how else would they know what families to contact?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As parents, we did not authorize Callie Oettinger to give our child's information to Timothy Sandefur.

You don’t get that right. You lost control of the data when you gave it to fcps. See “pentagon papers”.

No, they cannot give out personal info without parental consent. FCPS didn’t have the authorization to share. She has the data without the proper authorization. AND she distributed it.

"proper authorization"? There is no such thing in this case. FCPS handed the data to her.

Go ahead. Hire a lawyer. Spend your money. See where it gets you.

Sure there is. Parents are the owners of the info and they give schools authorization to share records with others. FCPS/Callie didn’t have that authorization.

§ 18.2-152.5. Computer invasion of privacy; penalties.
A. A person is guilty of the crime of computer invasion of privacy when he uses a computer or computer network and intentionally examines without authority any employment, salary, credit or any other financial or identifying information, as defined in clauses (iii) through (xiii) of subsection C of § 18.2-186.3, relating to any other person. "Examination" under this section requires the offender to review the information relating to any other person after the time at which the offender knows or should know that he is without authority to view the information displayed.

B. The crime of computer invasion of privacy shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.


And she distributed it to someone else:
D. Any person who violates this section and sells or distributes such information to another is guilty of a Class 6 felony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As parents, we did not authorize Callie Oettinger to give our child's information to Timothy Sandefur.

You don’t get that right. You lost control of the data when you gave it to fcps. See “pentagon papers”.

No, they cannot give out personal info without parental consent. FCPS didn’t have the authorization to share. She has the data without the proper authorization. AND she distributed it.

"proper authorization"? There is no such thing in this case. FCPS handed the data to her.

Go ahead. Hire a lawyer. Spend your money. See where it gets you.

Sure there is. Parents are the owners of the info and they give schools authorization to share records with others. FCPS/Callie didn’t have that authorization.

§ 18.2-152.5. Computer invasion of privacy; penalties.
A. A person is guilty of the crime of computer invasion of privacy when he uses a computer or computer network and intentionally examines without authority any employment, salary, credit or any other financial or identifying information, as defined in clauses (iii) through (xiii) of subsection C of § 18.2-186.3, relating to any other person. "Examination" under this section requires the offender to review the information relating to any other person after the time at which the offender knows or should know that he is without authority to view the information displayed.

B. The crime of computer invasion of privacy shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.


And she distributed it to someone else:
D. Any person who violates this section and sells or distributes such information to another is guilty of a Class 6 felony.

Louder this time. YOU DON’T OWN THE INFO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As parents, we did not authorize Callie Oettinger to give our child's information to Timothy Sandefur.

You don’t get that right. You lost control of the data when you gave it to fcps. See “pentagon papers”.

No, they cannot give out personal info without parental consent. FCPS didn’t have the authorization to share. She has the data without the proper authorization. AND she distributed it.

"proper authorization"? There is no such thing in this case. FCPS handed the data to her.

Go ahead. Hire a lawyer. Spend your money. See where it gets you.

Sure there is. Parents are the owners of the info and they give schools authorization to share records with others. FCPS/Callie didn’t have that authorization.

§ 18.2-152.5. Computer invasion of privacy; penalties.
A. A person is guilty of the crime of computer invasion of privacy when he uses a computer or computer network and intentionally examines without authority any employment, salary, credit or any other financial or identifying information, as defined in clauses (iii) through (xiii) of subsection C of § 18.2-186.3, relating to any other person. "Examination" under this section requires the offender to review the information relating to any other person after the time at which the offender knows or should know that he is without authority to view the information displayed.

B. The crime of computer invasion of privacy shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.


And she distributed it to someone else:
D. Any person who violates this section and sells or distributes such information to another is guilty of a Class 6 felony.

Go make a citizen’s arrest then. See where that takes you.

Don’t really. That’s a terrible idea. Anyone who doesn’t understand the law should leave it to the proper authorities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As parents, we did not authorize Callie Oettinger to give our child's information to Timothy Sandefur.

You don’t get that right. You lost control of the data when you gave it to fcps. See “pentagon papers”.

No, they cannot give out personal info without parental consent. FCPS didn’t have the authorization to share. She has the data without the proper authorization. AND she distributed it.

"proper authorization"? There is no such thing in this case. FCPS handed the data to her.

Go ahead. Hire a lawyer. Spend your money. See where it gets you.

I have started the process of hiring a lawyer.


In the meantime, if you would like to press criminal charges, all you need to do is to go the the Fairfax County Magistrate to file a criminal complaint. I (or my spouse) will be doing that, but if you want to beat me to it, you are welcome to be the first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As parents, we did not authorize Callie Oettinger to give our child's information to Timothy Sandefur.

You don’t get that right. You lost control of the data when you gave it to fcps. See “pentagon papers”.

No, they cannot give out personal info without parental consent. FCPS didn’t have the authorization to share. She has the data without the proper authorization. AND she distributed it.

"proper authorization"? There is no such thing in this case. FCPS handed the data to her.

Go ahead. Hire a lawyer. Spend your money. See where it gets you.

Sure there is. Parents are the owners of the info and they give schools authorization to share records with others. FCPS/Callie didn’t have that authorization.

§ 18.2-152.5. Computer invasion of privacy; penalties.
A. A person is guilty of the crime of computer invasion of privacy when he uses a computer or computer network and intentionally examines without authority any employment, salary, credit or any other financial or identifying information, as defined in clauses (iii) through (xiii) of subsection C of § 18.2-186.3, relating to any other person. "Examination" under this section requires the offender to review the information relating to any other person after the time at which the offender knows or should know that he is without authority to view the information displayed.

B. The crime of computer invasion of privacy shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.


And she distributed it to someone else:
D. Any person who violates this section and sells or distributes such information to another is guilty of a Class 6 felony.

Louder this time. YOU DON’T OWN THE INFO.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacodefull/title22.1/chapter14/article5/

Article 5. Pupil Records.
§ 22.1-287. Limitations on access to records.
A. No teacher, principal or employee of any public school nor any school board member shall permit access to any records concerning any particular pupil enrolled in the school in any class to any person except under judicial process unless the person is one of the following:

1. Either parent of such pupil or such pupil; provided that a school board may require that such pupil, if he be less than 18 years of age, as a condition precedent to access to such records, furnish written consent of his or her parent for such access;

FERPA:
schools are prohibited from disclosing personally identifiable information (PII) from a student’s
education records unless the parent or eligible student provides prior written consent

FCPS did not have PWC to release the records. She was not authorized to “examine” the records.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As parents, we did not authorize Callie Oettinger to give our child's information to Timothy Sandefur.

You don’t get that right. You lost control of the data when you gave it to fcps. See “pentagon papers”.

No, they cannot give out personal info without parental consent. FCPS didn’t have the authorization to share. She has the data without the proper authorization. AND she distributed it.

"proper authorization"? There is no such thing in this case. FCPS handed the data to her.

Go ahead. Hire a lawyer. Spend your money. See where it gets you.

Sure there is. Parents are the owners of the info and they give schools authorization to share records with others. FCPS/Callie didn’t have that authorization.

§ 18.2-152.5. Computer invasion of privacy; penalties.
A. A person is guilty of the crime of computer invasion of privacy when he uses a computer or computer network and intentionally examines without authority any employment, salary, credit or any other financial or identifying information, as defined in clauses (iii) through (xiii) of subsection C of § 18.2-186.3, relating to any other person. "Examination" under this section requires the offender to review the information relating to any other person after the time at which the offender knows or should know that he is without authority to view the information displayed.

B. The crime of computer invasion of privacy shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.


And she distributed it to someone else:
D. Any person who violates this section and sells or distributes such information to another is guilty of a Class 6 felony.

Louder this time. YOU DON’T OWN THE INFO.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacodefull/title22.1/chapter14/article5/

Article 5. Pupil Records.
§ 22.1-287. Limitations on access to records.
A. No teacher, principal or employee of any public school nor any school board member shall permit access to any records concerning any particular pupil enrolled in the school in any class to any person except under judicial process unless the person is one of the following:

1. Either parent of such pupil or such pupil; provided that a school board may require that such pupil, if he be less than 18 years of age, as a condition precedent to access to such records, furnish written consent of his or her parent for such access;

FERPA:
schools are prohibited from disclosing personally identifiable information (PII) from a student’s
education records unless the parent or eligible student provides prior written consent

FCPS did not have PWC to release the records. She was not authorized to “examine” the records.

Schools are prohibited. Fcps is at fault. I am not seeing Callie’s name here. Once they violated this rule, it’s game over. Sorry to tell you that. But your anger is misplaced. It should be completely with fcps.

[Anonymous]

§ 18.2-152.5. Computer invasion of privacy; penalties.
A. A person is guilty of the crime of computer invasion of privacy when he uses a computer or computer network and intentionally examines without authority any employment, salary, credit or any other financial or identifying information, as defined in clauses (iii) through (xiii) of subsection C of § 18.2-186.3, relating to any other person. "Examination" under this section requires the offender to review the information relating to any other person after the time at which the offender knows or should know that he is without authority to view the information displayed.

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D. Any person who violates this section and sells or distributes such information to another is guilty of a Class 6 felony.

[Anonymous]

Another criminal action from fcps on sped, how much more will everyone take before we refund fcps

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:§ 18.2-152.5. Computer invasion of privacy; penalties.
A. A person is guilty of the crime of computer invasion of privacy when he uses a computer or computer network and intentionally examines without authority any employment, salary, credit or any other financial or identifying information, as defined in clauses (iii) through (xiii) of subsection C of § 18.2-186.3, relating to any other person. "Examination" under this section requires the offender to review the information relating to any other person after the time at which the offender knows or should know that he is without authority to view the information displayed.

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D. Any person who violates this section and sells or distributes such information to another is guilty of a Class 6 felony.

Why don't you go check out clauses (iii) through (xiii) of subsection C of § 18.2-186.3 and then circle back.

I'll save you the time - unless social security numbers were included in the data dump, there's no violation of the law. And even if they are, there's no way a court is going to hold anyone liable for reading something FCPS provided to them, even if FCPS provided it in error.

[Anonymous]

Please contact me. I am getting a group together and looking at means to fund a legal civil suit against Callie Oettinger. Number is 571-293-0276.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I received a letter from FCPS regarding the information leak of only one of my kids, whom as far as I know was never in any special services and never in trouble. I now want to reach out to FCPS to know what they documented about my child that was leaked and if this information they documented could potentially affect college applications.

All the contractor is telling people is that they can send an email to the "[e-mail]" inbox to ask.
Fcps seems to be trying to avoid any specifics---but I agree that they must
Know what they gave the parent because how else would they know what families to contact?

This is my thought. If FCPS wasn’t sure about info, would have needed to send out to 180,000 families. They sent to 35,000 so they had to have a process to identify the names so they now should be able to go back and tell parents where their names were.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we sue as a group? I’m more interested in suing Callie than FCPS, though I do want the person at FCPS who made the leak to be fired.

Please call me 571-293-0276. I want to sue her as well and get a group together to stop her from using our children’s information as pawns.