What is your take on the Angelina Jolie/Brad Pitt divorce saga? What happened on the plane?

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I have a great respect for Angelina. She is a very intelligent and private person, quirky certainly, but who has evolved a lot over the course of her life, but always kept a charitable bent. She is very special.

Brad on the other hand, is the typical self-obsessed movie star. Prone to addiction and anger issues. He had a chance with her, and he blew it.

Mmm kay.

Yeah I think this is crazy. What’s that saying about people with no friends? Brad seems to be loved by Hollywood. I agree he may not be the sharpest but he does seem like a genuinely good person who was blinded by whatever power Angelina holds. And yes it was his own choice blah blah blah. I’m not absolving him. But he definitely dodged a bullet by getting out.

Friends are overrated and frankly taxing if you are an introvert. I “only” have 3 kids, lol, and an amazing dog, and frankly that’s all I need to be perfectly happy. I have friends, but they are a nice to have and def not necessary for my happiness. Angelina has 6 children and humanitarian work and that must be a very full and fulfilling life.

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Anonymous wrote:Brad grew up in a pretty typical household in Missouri with a mother who was a school counselor and his father who owned a trucking business. He experienced a stable home life.

Angelina grew up in LA with a dysfunctional family. She has nothing to fall back on.

She has 6 kids to fall back on who all chose her over their “stable” father!

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Anonymous wrote:That video of Zahara was weird.

It’s a sorority induction video. The rituals are inherently weird.

You obviously know nothing about the Divine 9.

Yeah some of us don't. I was a tri delta so I get having a sisterhood but it seems to be a bigger emphasis in black community.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you make of these celebrity international adoptions? It seems like at one time they were viewed favorably but now not so much. International adoption in general seems more sketchy now than it did, say, 20 years ago. I've seen so many stories where it didn't go well or that the child had a lot of identity issues, understandably, but years ago this wasn't talked about.

"The number of children American parents adopt each year from abroad has declined rapidly too, from 23,000 in 2004 (an all-time high) to about 3,000 in 2019."

A lot of countries have closed their programs though. You can no longer adopt from Ethiopia, China etc. I think you can technically still adopt from South Korea which used to be the largest source of adoptees in the U.S. but don’t think you can adopt non-SN children from there anymore.

After a large number of Russian adopted children were killed by their American adoptive parents, Russia is closed to adoption too.

Turns out, international adoption is just a bad idea. Domestic adoption is problematic all-too-many times too.

Link please. Because I know that is not true

In retaliation for the Magnitsky law, Russia signed the Dima Yakovlev Law in honor of a young Russian boy adopted by Americans who did die in the United States. He was left in a hot car by his adoptive parents.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-adoptions-putin/putin-signs-bill-banning-american-adoptions-of-russian-children-idUSBRE8BQ06K20121228/

Max Shatto, a 3 year old who was beaten to death, is the 20th Russian child adopted by American parents and died under suspicious circumstances.

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2013/0219/Adopted-toddler-s-alleged-death-by-abuse-in-Texas-inflames-Russia

While the Russia ban on adoptions was primarily politcally-motivated, it was also the right thing to do. We are not taking care of our international adopted children. We should, and mostly have, stop the practice.

thanks for the links.Very interesting read Sorry for spamming guys! all caught up now. Tnt have been taking up my time lol

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a particularly high opinion of either of them. I've always thought Brad Pitt was ugly, untalented, and stupid. Angelina Jolie seems like a nasty person, but I did like her briefly toward the end of the Billy Bob relationship and when she first adopted Maddox.
They're both a hot mess, they both look terrible, and I don't envy their kids.

I never cared much for Jennifer Aniston either, but damn, she's living the life compared to those two. She seems happy, healthy and unbothered.

They both look terrible??!?!?!?!! They are two of the best looking people ever.
I cannot take the rest of your comment seriously when you make such stupid statements. In their prime, Brad and Angie were respectively the most stunning people I have ever seen. Shiloh is gorgeous too.

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Anonymous wrote:No winners here. Those kids must be very screwed up. She did get a partial victory in the sense that she was able to ice him out for a long time, and make sure the kids' bond was mostly broken. Very sad.

The kids aren’t babies though. Maybe she’s trying to protect the kids — who have decided for their own reasons that they don’t want him to have custody and decision- making powers over them. It does happen, it it may have much more to do with him as a father than anything else.
While there are no winners here, being forced by the courts to be in the custody of someone that you feel isn’t a good parent can leave you feeling very helpless and very screwed.

Yes, of course children make decisions and decide they don't want to see a parent. That doesn't mean they should get their wish. Children are children, not adults.

Children are people. Many have very clear experiences of what toxic relationships feel like. Their wishes should definitely be considered and revisited if necessary.

+1. I was 12 when my parents divorced. Thank god the judge took my opinion into account and didn’t force me to have visitation with my father. I have vivid memories of hiding, terrified, in cabinets inside locked rooms. Of his many angry outbursts and emotionally abusive words.

This. Thankfully Angelina got the kids. She seems far more at stable and thoughtful than Brad Pitt. She was gorgeous and famous as a very young adult, and did some crazy stuff in her youth, in the spotlight. I say good for her! Those are the years to get it out of your system and move on and mature.
In contrast, Brad is a man child who never grew up.

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Anonymous wrote:I worked with her briefly and had a good experience. It’s hard to reconcile these stories with the woman I worked with.

She’s a good actress.

That hasn’t been my experience behind the scenes. They ( actors) don’t put on a show for the help, unless they are ALWAYS putting on a show. If they are always acting, then that IS who they are.

My boss met her through some of her charity work and thought Angelina was smart and kind. She said Brad (who was still married to her at the time) was dim.

I’ve also met Brad briefly. He is friendly but agree that he’s dim. Like a toned down, human golden retriever.

I gotta say that it was prob the deal breaker. It’s very hard to stay attracted to a man who is dummer than you. And in their case, I think that she is a lot smarter, worldlier and more interesting than him. Brad was a good sperm donor for pretty kids, but that’s about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Another thread bashing a woman. Sad, pathetic women that hate other women.

+1. A man did wrong by two incredible women, Jen Aniston and Angie. And yet somehow he is the victim in all of this. And here I was thinking we are living in the 21st century…

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Anonymous wrote:She’s full blown vindictive. Her kids will resent her once they are older…at least Brad’s bio kids will. Her eldest adopted son likely never wanted her to marry and have kids.

Ten years from now her bio kids will be living with or living off of Brad. Brad will always have a career and celebrity contacts. Angelina is on her way out.

Why are you so weirdly dividing biological and adoptive children? Given that Angelina and Brad adopted them together as infants (except for Maddox who was 18 months when Brad entered the picture), what difference does it make if they are bio or adopted?

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This is enough for me to form a conclusion:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/hollywood/angelina-jolies-son-blasts-brad-pitt-you-dont-have-empathy-for-kids-who-tremble-in-fear-101700559708297-amp.html

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“There doesn’t even seem enough room for them all to stay at Pitt’s new Los Angeles pad.

In April, he downsized from a ­massive family compound, with its own skateboard track, to a three-bedroom house.”

He either gave up because none of the kids care to spend time with him, or he never really cared about them. Something is not right with him for this to be dragged on for so long and for him to not be able to see the kids without supervision AND for 6 very different children with diff personalities to not want to spend time with him.

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Page six says the sun article was fake

https://pagesix.com/2023/11/22/parents/how-brad-pitt-really-feels-about-son-paxs-explosive-rant-being-dragged-up/

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Anonymous wrote:“There doesn’t even seem enough room for them all to stay at Pitt’s new Los Angeles pad.

In April, he downsized from a ­massive family compound, with its own skateboard track, to a three-bedroom house.”

He either gave up because none of the kids care to spend time with him, or he never really cared about them. Something is not right with him for this to be dragged on for so long and for him to not be able to see the kids without supervision AND for 6 very different children with diff personalities to not want to spend time with him.

They weren't willing to visit him, for years. Why should he maintain the family compound after many years of their absence?

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Anonymous wrote:She bought those kids. I thought Zahara has a bio mother that confirmed this.

She was collecting them, in all these colors. It’s sad. Hopefully they don’t end up messed up in the end.

Zahra was in an orphanage. Her mom came out a few years ago and was upset she couldn’t contact Angelina but if she was in an orphanage I don’t think she bought her.

At first Jolie said Zahara's mother was dead then later relented and allowed her to be alive. Still didn't allow contact that she said she would, though.

You are clueless. A bunch of self-righteous, judgmental, morons. Most of the posters such as yourself have never adopted or loved anyone that doesn't have your dna. You know nothing about adoptions or adoptees. You also have no clue to what extent, if any, the children have with their birth families. I have children adopted internationally. DH and I hired a researcher to find out more information about the birth families. One child's birth family was found. The other child's family was never located. Guess what, the one who has access to the birth family for regular communication via WhatsApp and letters refuse to have contact. It's the child's decision not yours or in this case Jolie's.

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Anonymous wrote:She’s full blown vindictive. Her kids will resent her once they are older…at least Brad’s bio kids will. Her eldest adopted son likely never wanted her to marry and have kids.

Ten years from now her bio kids will be living with or living off of Brad. Brad will always have a career and celebrity contacts. Angelina is on her way out.

Why are you so weirdly dividing biological and adoptive children? Given that Angelina and Brad adopted them together as infants (except for Maddox who was 18 months when Brad entered the picture), what difference does it make if they are bio or adopted?

It was obvious even before they split that Maddox didn’t seem to appreciate her husband and gaggle of kids. And it seems entirely plausible that Maddox and Pax are on the same page.

At some point the bio kids might feel a connection to Pitt that the others simply won’t.

While all the kids have been alienated from Pitt by Jolie, the bio kids might feel more connected to him at some point.

Interestingly, Aniston was largely raised by her mom in nyc and didn’t become close with her actor father until she wanted to launch her career. Couldn’t you see that happen for the bio kids?