FCYBL All County Teams

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

The zip code thing really doesn’t make it fair. McLean can take kids from McLean, Great Falls, Falls Church, and Vienna. A team like Herndon is limited to only 2 zip codes in Herndon. Larger youth clubs have a larger talent pool to choose from. I think a way to make it more fair is to create teams based on the high schools they are zoned for. Loudoun does it this way and they still let the youth clubs/rec leagues organize the teams. If the youth clubs take kids zoned for multiple high schools, they over see multiple teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It must be 7th grade D1.

Wow, there were like, no teams in that division. How did they have a division with only 6 teams total?

There were other teams that started in d1 but then moved to d2. D1’s top teams each have kids that have played year round together for years. So I think it’s tough for a random group of kids to compete against that, even when skilled bball players.

Is it Gainesville and Mclean in the 7th D1 championship? They haven't updated the website.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It must be 7th grade D1.

Wow, there were like, no teams in that division. How did they have a division with only 6 teams total?

There were other teams that started in d1 but then moved to d2. D1’s top teams each have kids that have played year round together for years. So I think it’s tough for a random group of kids to compete against that, even when skilled bball players.

Is it Gainesville and Mclean in the 7th D1 championship? They haven't updated the website.

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the coaches, including assistants, live outside of the zipcodes then their kids can play for that team and not count against zipcode exceptions.

I noticed zipcode violations on 2 younger teams as well and told our commissioner but I doubt he reported it.

FCYBL needs to check zipcodes next year for sure! And somehow discourage the intact AAU teams from participating. Regular players on those teams are mostly benched.

Where is this in the rules?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

The zip code thing really doesn’t make it fair. McLean can take kids from McLean, Great Falls, Falls Church, and Vienna. A team like Herndon is limited to only 2 zip codes in Herndon. Larger youth clubs have a larger talent pool to choose from. I think a way to make it more fair is to create teams based on the high schools they are zoned for. Loudoun does it this way and they still let the youth clubs/rec leagues organize the teams. If the youth clubs take kids zoned for multiple high schools, they over see multiple teams.

BRYC has 11 zip codes plus two exceptions per team....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

The zip code thing really doesn’t make it fair. McLean can take kids from McLean, Great Falls, Falls Church, and Vienna. A team like Herndon is limited to only 2 zip codes in Herndon. Larger youth clubs have a larger talent pool to choose from. I think a way to make it more fair is to create teams based on the high schools they are zoned for. Loudoun does it this way and they still let the youth clubs/rec leagues organize the teams. If the youth clubs take kids zoned for multiple high schools, they over see multiple teams.

BRYC has 11 zip codes plus two exceptions per team....

Yeah I don't know all of the rules for each team but happen to know that there were teams in our league accused of zip code violations and then the commissioner looked into them and none of them were true. People don't realize how many teams Falls Church or other zip codes are allowed to play for and assume cheating. It's kind of annoying. I will also say that in the younger grades that for the most part the AAU teams split up for county and it makes it really fun as there are no real powerhouses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

The zip code thing really doesn’t make it fair. McLean can take kids from McLean, Great Falls, Falls Church, and Vienna. A team like Herndon is limited to only 2 zip codes in Herndon. Larger youth clubs have a larger talent pool to choose from. I think a way to make it more fair is to create teams based on the high schools they are zoned for. Loudoun does it this way and they still let the youth clubs/rec leagues organize the teams. If the youth clubs take kids zoned for multiple high schools, they over see multiple teams.

BRYC has 11 zip codes plus two exceptions per team....

Yeah I don't know all of the rules for each team but happen to know that there were teams in our league accused of zip code violations and then the commissioner looked into them and none of them were true. People don't realize how many teams Falls Church or other zip codes are allowed to play for and assume cheating. It's kind of annoying. I will also say that in the younger grades that for the most part the AAU teams split up for county and it makes it really fun as there are no real powerhouses.

Yeah a Falls Church kid could play for Vienna, McLean, Falls Church, Turnpike, FPC, James Lee, and probably more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

The zip code thing really doesn’t make it fair. McLean can take kids from McLean, Great Falls, Falls Church, and Vienna. A team like Herndon is limited to only 2 zip codes in Herndon. Larger youth clubs have a larger talent pool to choose from. I think a way to make it more fair is to create teams based on the high schools they are zoned for. Loudoun does it this way and they still let the youth clubs/rec leagues organize the teams. If the youth clubs take kids zoned for multiple high schools, they over see multiple teams.

BRYC has 11 zip codes plus two exceptions per team....

Yeah I don't know all of the rules for each team but happen to know that there were teams in our league accused of zip code violations and then the commissioner looked into them and none of them were true. People don't realize how many teams Falls Church or other zip codes are allowed to play for and assume cheating. It's kind of annoying. I will also say that in the younger grades that for the most part the AAU teams split up for county and it makes it really fun as there are no real powerhouses.

When the Fairfax county aau teams are split up, Arlington is the powerhouse. On the girls’ side, it’s just the Hurricanes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

The zip code thing really doesn’t make it fair. McLean can take kids from McLean, Great Falls, Falls Church, and Vienna. A team like Herndon is limited to only 2 zip codes in Herndon. Larger youth clubs have a larger talent pool to choose from. I think a way to make it more fair is to create teams based on the high schools they are zoned for. Loudoun does it this way and they still let the youth clubs/rec leagues organize the teams. If the youth clubs take kids zoned for multiple high schools, they over see multiple teams.

BRYC has 11 zip codes plus two exceptions per team....

And they still aren’t any good

[Anonymous]

on the girls side, every single county team has aau players on it. every single one.

hurricanes aau girls all played for arlington

fairfax stars had some of the girls on fcybl and some on vienna

elevate elite had girls on mclean and cya

gainesville has girls that play for gainesville aau/travel

etc..


almost all of these division 1 girls play both county and aau. I laugh when I hear parents complain - oh that is team is cheating because they have aau players. It doesn't make any sense to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:on the girls side, every single county team has aau players on it. every single one.

hurricanes aau girls all played for arlington

fairfax stars had some of the girls on fcybl and some on vienna

elevate elite had girls on mclean and cya

gainesville has girls that play for gainesville aau/travel

etc..


almost all of these division 1 girls play both county and aau. I laugh when I hear parents complain - oh that is team is cheating because they have aau players. It doesn't make any sense to me.

Now do girls teams on the east side of the county. Burke and Ft Hunt don't have associated AAU teams

[Anonymous]

You are correct. I should have said "almost every" county team. my point was when a team with aau players on it, loses to another team that has aau players on it - they complain that they team they lost to only won because of the aau players. Meanwhile over half their roster is as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

The zip code thing really doesn’t make it fair. McLean can take kids from McLean, Great Falls, Falls Church, and Vienna. A team like Herndon is limited to only 2 zip codes in Herndon. Larger youth clubs have a larger talent pool to choose from. I think a way to make it more fair is to create teams based on the high schools they are zoned for. Loudoun does it this way and they still let the youth clubs/rec leagues organize the teams. If the youth clubs take kids zoned for multiple high schools, they over see multiple teams.

BRYC has 11 zip codes plus two exceptions per team....

Yeah I don't know all of the rules for each team but happen to know that there were teams in our league accused of zip code violations and then the commissioner looked into them and none of them were true. People don't realize how many teams Falls Church or other zip codes are allowed to play for and assume cheating. It's kind of annoying. I will also say that in the younger grades that for the most part the AAU teams split up for county and it makes it really fun as there are no real powerhouses.

Yeah a Falls Church kid could play for Vienna, McLean, Falls Church, Turnpike, FPC, James Lee, and probably more.

What zip code is zoned for all those different places? Usually each zip code just has 2 or maybe 3 choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the coaches, including assistants, live outside of the zipcodes then their kids can play for that team and not count against zipcode exceptions.

I noticed zipcode violations on 2 younger teams as well and told our commissioner but I doubt he reported it.

FCYBL needs to check zipcodes next year for sure! And somehow discourage the intact AAU teams from participating. Regular players on those teams are mostly benched.

Where is this in the rules?

That is not in the rules. Its two exceptions per team, period. Can you imagine the shenanigans otherwise? Everyone would have five assistant coaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the coaches, including assistants, live outside of the zipcodes then their kids can play for that team and not count against zipcode exceptions.

I noticed zipcode violations on 2 younger teams as well and told our commissioner but I doubt he reported it.

FCYBL needs to check zipcodes next year for sure! And somehow discourage the intact AAU teams from participating. Regular players on those teams are mostly benched.

Where is this in the rules?

That is not in the rules. Its two exceptions per team, period. Can you imagine the shenanigans otherwise? Everyone would have five assistant coaches.

ha, so true.