Georgetown or Northwestern

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Georgetown also has a campus in Qatar...


Anyways, Northwestern is the better school. I would go there.

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Northwestern if he was a better education. But why are you asking the question now? He may not have a choice.

I am the OP. The question is relevant now because if he can say NU is his first choice he will ED it. But he has to 100% want to go there because ED ups his chances of admission to 20% and he is legacy, so with his stats and his school's Naviance stats and ED and legacy he will have a very solid change of getting in. If he thinks he wants Georgetown, he won't ED NU. If he doesn't ED NU, he will be in the RD pool where admission chances fall to around 6%, legacy is mooted, and he likely won't get in. But, he will be shooting for G'town under that scenario. That is why I am asking now. He needs to decide before he applies so he can apply correctly.

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish family here with a kid at NU. My kid never felt threatened or uncomfortable. Most of the things that would have happened normally on campus happened even with the encampment going on (Nothing that my kid was involved with got cancelled or postponed.) We felt that the admin did a good job of walking a line and not escalating.




Thanks for the insight.

My kid committed to Northwestern. Then this ridiculous appeasement concession happened.

We are really hoping that the wealthy alumni exert a lot pressure on the school to throw it out.

We spoke to some Jewish students from the school before committing a few weeks back at the start of this mess. At the time, they said they felt safe and supported by the school.and community. Do you have any insight on how things are now for the students?

What does it say that you are hoping that billionaires weigh? What does it say that you want money to decide this? It says you prefer a ruling financial elite to democracy, when push it comes to an issue close to you. Maybe all issues.

What does it say when Northwestern has a campus in Qatar? The same place that leaders of Hamas live in 5 star luxury.

I suspect that all kinds of people live in luxury in Qatar, as they do in the US, including Chicago. So are you fine with billionaires deciding a school’s policy on student protestors as long as it’s billionaires that agree with you? Which regimes does this put you in line with? Where do you stand on democracy on other issues?

You missed the point. Billionaires (Royal family) in Qatar, who allow heads of a terrorist organization to live there, might be dictating terms to NU since they have a campus in Doha. It works both ways.

The funny thing is, Qatar has given many hundreds of millions of dollars to both Northwestern and Georgetown.

Many more schools: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_City

This is silly. Hamas is in Qatar at the request of the United States and Israel.

https://x.com/qatarembassyusa/status/1777504096842342681?s=46

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr?utm_source=ynetnews.com&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=Twitter&utm_term=bk8mgcefr&utm_content=Article%20Top

https://www.timesofisrael.com/documents-show-israel-sought-valued-qatari-aid-for-gaza-in-years-leading-to-oct-7/

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html

https://x.com/annaleajacobs/status/1780512521503244406?s=46

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/05/03/us-qatar-hamas-hostages-ceasefire/ (Article makes it clear that Qatar is hosting Hamas at the US’ request)





If you hate Hamas then take it up with Israel and the United States who asked Qatar to host Hamas and fund it.

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Northwestern if he was a better education. But why are you asking the question now? He may not have a choice.

I am the OP. The question is relevant now because if he can say NU is his first choice he will ED it. But he has to 100% want to go there because ED ups his chances of admission to 20% and he is legacy, so with his stats and his school's Naviance stats and ED and legacy he will have a very solid change of getting in. If he thinks he wants Georgetown, he won't ED NU. If he doesn't ED NU, he will be in the RD pool where admission chances fall to around 6%, legacy is mooted, and he likely won't get in. But, he will be shooting for G'town under that scenario. That is why I am asking now. He needs to decide before he applies so he can apply correctly.

PP here. Got it! They are both good schools But I majored in Econ and although I ended up going to Law School I have a lot of friends who ended up doing an MBA and are in Finance. Northwestern has the better reputation. But in the end both are great schools!

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish family here with a kid at NU. My kid never felt threatened or uncomfortable. Most of the things that would have happened normally on campus happened even with the encampment going on (Nothing that my kid was involved with got cancelled or postponed.) We felt that the admin did a good job of walking a line and not escalating.




Thanks for the insight.

My kid committed to Northwestern. Then this ridiculous appeasement concession happened.

We are really hoping that the wealthy alumni exert a lot pressure on the school to throw it out.

We spoke to some Jewish students from the school before committing a few weeks back at the start of this mess. At the time, they said they felt safe and supported by the school.and community. Do you have any insight on how things are now for the students?

What does it say that you are hoping that billionaires weigh? What does it say that you want money to decide this? It says you prefer a ruling financial elite to democracy, when push it comes to an issue close to you. Maybe all issues.

What does it say when Northwestern has a campus in Qatar? The same place that leaders of Hamas live in 5 star luxury.

I suspect that all kinds of people live in luxury in Qatar, as they do in the US, including Chicago. So are you fine with billionaires deciding a school’s policy on student protestors as long as it’s billionaires that agree with you? Which regimes does this put you in line with? Where do you stand on democracy on other issues?

You missed the point. Billionaires (Royal family) in Qatar, who allow heads of a terrorist organization to live there, might be dictating terms to NU since they have a campus in Doha. It works both ways.

The funny thing is, Qatar has given many hundreds of millions of dollars to both Northwestern and Georgetown.

Many more schools: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_City

You still haven’t answered any questions. You are describing what you think “might” be happening in Qatar and not addressing what you are directly asking happen here - billionaires deciding what happened to university students.

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The only scenario in which I would encourage a student to consider Georgetown over Northwestern is if they were dead set, without a shadow of a doubt, on pursuing a career in politics. Although even in politics, Northwestern is no lightweight. Any other instance, I would go Northwestern.

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Anonymous wrote:I know both are always reaches, but DS has the stats to make both realistic if he applies correctly. He has a 1570 SAT/ 35 ACT and a 4.0 UW with the highest rigor at his selective private school. He is a four year varsity athlete and team captain with state ranking in one sport, a four year varsity player in another, president of business club, co-head of math club with 1st place state medal in his event (probability), Top 10% of his class, and has volunteering hours and a paid summer job.

DS would major in Econ and minor in Business at Northwestern (and would apply for the MMSS program) and would apply ED if he decides it's his first choice. At Georgetown he would apply to McDonough School of Business. He could apply REA or not (we understand it doesn't really confer a large advantage). For NU he has to decide if it's his first choice because their ED rate is around 20% but their RD rate is more like 7%, so deciding not to ED is statistically throwing away his chance at admission. He has to decide this summer and ED (or not) accordingly.

He has visited both and really liked both. He loved Georgetown/DC as a town, and he likes Evanston and the proximity to Chicago. Weather doesn't affect his decision - we are from the Midwest and it doesn't bother him. He thinks he wants to work in NYC in finance, but that could change so I want him to get a degree that opens lots of options. He wants sports teams he can root for and he also wanted Greek life. Does Georgetown have some sort of "unofficial" Greek life? Is NU's Greek life still active?

Would love thoughts from people who have recent experience with either college or whose DCs also were choosing between them. I wish he could apply to both and then decide, but it seems that if he wants NU it has to be by ED so he has to decide sooner.

Highly suggest you look at Northeastern, it's one of the most selective Universities in the world and is far superior to both. I would also add it's actually in the Northeast verse Northwestern which is directionally confused because it's actually in the Midwest. I'd go to the school that can teach accurate geography.

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Northwestern if he was a better education. But why are you asking the question now? He may not have a choice.

I am the OP. The question is relevant now because if he can say NU is his first choice he will ED it. But he has to 100% want to go there because ED ups his chances of admission to 20% and he is legacy, so with his stats and his school's Naviance stats and ED and legacy he will have a very solid change of getting in. If he thinks he wants Georgetown, he won't ED NU. If he doesn't ED NU, he will be in the RD pool where admission chances fall to around 6%, legacy is mooted, and he likely won't get in. But, he will be shooting for G'town under that scenario. That is why I am asking now. He needs to decide before he applies so he can apply correctly.

This is not accurate. The reason ED admission rates are higher is because of athletes and other priority applicants the schools want. Unless you are a 6-7 figure donor, legacy really doesn't matter.

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Given your son's stats, assuming he likes both, I would ED to Northwestern - especially given the legacy bump (even if it's small). Best of luck! Both are amazing institutions.

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Anonymous wrote:The only scenario in which I would encourage a student to consider Georgetown over Northwestern is if they were dead set, without a shadow of a doubt, on pursuing a career in politics. Although even in politics, Northwestern is no lightweight. Any other instance, I would go Northwestern.

That's my kid. Loves all things historical/political/policy/international relations/government. The internships and opportunities the school affords were too big to pass up in this field. Kids do internships year-round.

He did not consider NW at all. He applied EA to Georgetown.

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Anonymous wrote:If Jewish, Georgetown.

People are more than their religious affiliations.

Being Jewish is as much a cultural identity as it is a religion.

Just wanted to add regarding diversity in Georgetown according to 23-24 common data set:
https://georgetown.app.box.com/s/i6ct2x531j7aso2ka3kvw2blur82embn
For degree seeking 1st year
72/1599 hispanics
87/1599 blacks
837/1599 whites (muslins arabs included)
297/1599 asians
overall gender discrepancy
630 male/968 female

The amount of muslims is huge- and arabs are considered white.
https://campusministry.georgetown.edu/faith-traditions/muslim/

Georgetown dubai campus
https://academy.difc.ae/campus/academic-partners/georgetown-university

I am not sure what is going on in Georgetown, but if you walk through campus does not feel catholic...

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I did not have time to read this entire thread, however, if you want Northwestern, check to see if they have a summer program related to his area of interest and apply for it, then do ED

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I am the OP. He decided to ED Northwestern and he got in! He had the Georgetown application done and ready to submit but didn't need to. Thank you to all that responded - the comments were really helpful. He is working on his MMSS application this month!

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP. He decided to ED Northwestern and he got in! He had the Georgetown application done and ready to submit but didn't need to. Thank you to all that responded - the comments were really helpful. He is working on his MMSS application this month!

Congratulations to your son!

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP. He decided to ED Northwestern and he got in! He had the Georgetown application done and ready to submit but didn't need to. Thank you to all that responded - the comments were really helpful. He is working on his MMSS application this month!

Congratulations !

If admitted to MMSS, his career options should be outstanding.