Will VGA will affect the HOPE rating ? or Is VGA one of the criteria for selection ?. |
No and no. |
HOPE is pure subjective. Teachers are able to recognize "good" students. But depending on teacher's personal experience and knowledge, they may or may not able to recognize gifted students. |
Thanks for sharing. I hope at some pt they realize the tests are not needed. There are many where English is a second language and the tests don’t reflect a child’s ability. Also history shows the test also doesn’t promote diversity. Universities got rid of SATs for a reason.
That’s why it’s now a holistic process but they shouldn’t do away with testing completely bc it does serve a function in identifying need. They’ll likely do away w NNAT but CogAT will stay. |
DC's HOPE rating is dated 1/31.
Personally I'd like to see the admittance criteria of a certain score on the CogAt OR teacher recommendation. DC got a high HOPE score which is consistent with teacher comments of my child being a standout in the classroom going back every single year to PK3, but bombed the CogAt. It's really annoying that a committee who have never met my child and spend 5 minutes on their file could deem my child completely ineligible due this one score. |
+1 that happened to us two years in a row and we didn’t get in. Eventually I gave up. |
Scores matter! |
NNAT is much easier exam, and helping with maintaining some amount of diversity. If it's just cogat, there entire AAP would like taken over by students of just one race, which need not be mentioned here. |
Is the AAP results out? |
Did you get it |
Will check after springbreak vacation |
Yes, got my favorite, tequila sunrise |
OP of this question. I got my answer. Its uploaded into SIS between3/15-3/20, please check yours too. 79% in Math, 59% in Reading. Good other scores otherwise. Do I stop following this AAP thread with these % in iReady as I have no HOPE? |
Nnat is not an easier test but it is not English based. Test scores correlate roughly with academic aptitude and very roughly with IQ. It makes sense to use test scores as part of admissions for an AAP or GT program. |
NP. Maybe in the case of a high score result that is true, but a lower test result isn't always accurate. These are mainly 6/7 year olds and a handful of redshirted 8 year olds we're talking about. They just may have other agendas besides perfecting a test at that age. It's been said many times on here that a lot of kids rush the IREADY so they can get to recess or play games. I assume that would also be applicable to COGAT/NNAT. Or maybe they just had an off day. In this case, a good HOPE score from the classroom teacher should counter the lower test score. |