Emory/Tufts/WashU

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like for public school kids ED is the only way to go…next question is ED2 helpful at all if ED doesn’t work out?

PP here. Yes I think ED2. My kid just wasn’t ready to do that.
Again the field of study matters a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:Are they all equally hard for a standard smart DMV public school kid to get into ED? Does one give a bigger bump to an ED application than the others?

DD likes all three…the acceptance rates are shockingly low and I assume for an unhooked kid from this area all three are very reachy.

WashU admits slightly higher caliber kids and it has a rep as the "best" for that reason, at the private school

WashU in ED and in RD admits only from top 20% from the private, RD really needs to be T10%.
Emory, admits ED just out of the T20%, RD within the 20%
Tufts for ED admits kids right above median, and almost never lets anyone in RD, but lets them off the WL regularly.

(For reference UVA admits ED through top 35%, EA/RD usually top 25%, WM admits slight lower, but not significantly so; VT admits deep into the top 50-60%)

At a different rigorous private, and would say that at our school, Emory is easiest admit ED, maybe takes top third. Wash U and Tufts take top 20 percent. UVA takes top 25 to 30 percent, and William and Mary, maybe median. We are oos for Virginia schools.

Can anyone from area public schools chime in? Chances for a top 5% 1450-1500 kid to get in ED to these schools? RD?

From my kids’ W (public) school Naviance, the only kids who get into any of these 3 colleges are 1500+ SAT and close to 4.0 with top rigor.

At our private this year,

WashU: ED1 (3.75uw/TO), ED2 (3.82uw 34)
Emory : ED1 (3.7+uw/TO), ED2 (3.8 33)

There are a few others but this is what I know.
The Tufts ED were lower scores/TO and gpa.

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Anonymous wrote:Are they all equally hard for a standard smart DMV public school kid to get into ED? Does one give a bigger bump to an ED application than the others?

DD likes all three…the acceptance rates are shockingly low and I assume for an unhooked kid from this area all three are very reachy.

WashU admits slightly higher caliber kids and it has a rep as the "best" for that reason, at the private school

WashU in ED and in RD admits only from top 20% from the private, RD really needs to be T10%.
Emory, admits ED just out of the T20%, RD within the 20%
Tufts for ED admits kids right above median, and almost never lets anyone in RD, but lets them off the WL regularly.

(For reference UVA admits ED through top 35%, EA/RD usually top 25%, WM admits slight lower, but not significantly so; VT admits deep into the top 50-60%)

At a different rigorous private, and would say that at our school, Emory is easiest admit ED, maybe takes top third. Wash U and Tufts take top 20 percent. UVA takes top 25 to 30 percent, and William and Mary, maybe median. We are oos for Virginia schools.

Can anyone from area public schools chime in? Chances for a top 5% 1450-1500 kid to get in ED to these schools? RD?

From my kids’ W (public) school Naviance, the only kids who get into any of these 3 colleges are 1500+ SAT and close to 4.0 with top rigor.

At our private this year,

WashU: ED1 (3.75uw/TO), ED2 (3.82uw 34)
Emory : ED1 (3.7+uw/TO), ED2 (3.8 33)

There are a few others but this is what I know.
The Tufts ED were lower scores/TO and gpa.

Btw these were the successful candidates.

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Anonymous wrote:My public school kid with 1500 and 3.9UW got into both WashU and Emory in RD.

Where did they choose?

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Anonymous wrote:Are they all equally hard for a standard smart DMV public school kid to get into ED? Does one give a bigger bump to an ED application than the others?

DD likes all three…the acceptance rates are shockingly low and I assume for an unhooked kid from this area all three are very reachy.

WashU admits slightly higher caliber kids and it has a rep as the "best" for that reason, at the private school

WashU in ED and in RD admits only from top 20% from the private, RD really needs to be T10%.
Emory, admits ED just out of the T20%, RD within the 20%
Tufts for ED admits kids right above median, and almost never lets anyone in RD, but lets them off the WL regularly.

(For reference UVA admits ED through top 35%, EA/RD usually top 25%, WM admits slight lower, but not significantly so; VT admits deep into the top 50-60%)

At a different rigorous private, and would say that at our school, Emory is easiest admit ED, maybe takes top third. Wash U and Tufts take top 20 percent. UVA takes top 25 to 30 percent, and William and Mary, maybe median. We are oos for Virginia schools.

Can anyone from area public schools chime in? Chances for a top 5% 1450-1500 kid to get in ED to these schools? RD?

From my kids’ W (public) school Naviance, the only kids who get into any of these 3 colleges are 1500+ SAT and close to 4.0 with top rigor.

At our private this year,

WashU: ED1 (3.75uw/TO), ED2 (3.82uw 34)
Emory : ED1 (3.7+uw/TO), ED2 (3.8 33)

There are a few others but this is what I know.
The Tufts ED were lower scores/TO and gpa.

Wow those are lower than I’d thought.

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Anonymous wrote:Are they all equally hard for a standard smart DMV public school kid to get into ED? Does one give a bigger bump to an ED application than the others?

DD likes all three…the acceptance rates are shockingly low and I assume for an unhooked kid from this area all three are very reachy.

WashU admits slightly higher caliber kids and it has a rep as the "best" for that reason, at the private school

WashU in ED and in RD admits only from top 20% from the private, RD really needs to be T10%.
Emory, admits ED just out of the T20%, RD within the 20%
Tufts for ED admits kids right above median, and almost never lets anyone in RD, but lets them off the WL regularly.

(For reference UVA admits ED through top 35%, EA/RD usually top 25%, WM admits slight lower, but not significantly so; VT admits deep into the top 50-60%)

At a different rigorous private, and would say that at our school, Emory is easiest admit ED, maybe takes top third. Wash U and Tufts take top 20 percent. UVA takes top 25 to 30 percent, and William and Mary, maybe median. We are oos for Virginia schools.

Can anyone from area public schools chime in? Chances for a top 5% 1450-1500 kid to get in ED to these schools? RD?

From my kids’ W (public) school Naviance, the only kids who get into any of these 3 colleges are 1500+ SAT and close to 4.0 with top rigor.

At our private this year,

WashU: ED1 (3.75uw/TO), ED2 (3.82uw 34)
Emory : ED1 (3.7+uw/TO), ED2 (3.8 33)

There are a few others but this is what I know.
The Tufts ED were lower scores/TO and gpa.

Wow those are lower than I’d thought.

Private though. Where there’s grade deflation….

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Anonymous wrote:Are they all equally hard for a standard smart DMV public school kid to get into ED? Does one give a bigger bump to an ED application than the others?

DD likes all three…the acceptance rates are shockingly low and I assume for an unhooked kid from this area all three are very reachy.

WashU admits slightly higher caliber kids and it has a rep as the "best" for that reason, at the private school

WashU in ED and in RD admits only from top 20% from the private, RD really needs to be T10%.
Emory, admits ED just out of the T20%, RD within the 20%
Tufts for ED admits kids right above median, and almost never lets anyone in RD, but lets them off the WL regularly.

(For reference UVA admits ED through top 35%, EA/RD usually top 25%, WM admits slight lower, but not significantly so; VT admits deep into the top 50-60%)

At a different rigorous private, and would say that at our school, Emory is easiest admit ED, maybe takes top third. Wash U and Tufts take top 20 percent. UVA takes top 25 to 30 percent, and William and Mary, maybe median. We are oos for Virginia schools.

Can anyone from area public schools chime in? Chances for a top 5% 1450-1500 kid to get in ED to these schools? RD?

From my kids’ W (public) school Naviance, the only kids who get into any of these 3 colleges are 1500+ SAT and close to 4.0 with top rigor.

Even ED? And how can you you tell rigor from Naviance?

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Anonymous wrote:Are they all equally hard for a standard smart DMV public school kid to get into ED? Does one give a bigger bump to an ED application than the others?

DD likes all three…the acceptance rates are shockingly low and I assume for an unhooked kid from this area all three are very reachy.

WashU admits slightly higher caliber kids and it has a rep as the "best" for that reason, at the private school

WashU in ED and in RD admits only from top 20% from the private, RD really needs to be T10%.
Emory, admits ED just out of the T20%, RD within the 20%
Tufts for ED admits kids right above median, and almost never lets anyone in RD, but lets them off the WL regularly.

(For reference UVA admits ED through top 35%, EA/RD usually top 25%, WM admits slight lower, but not significantly so; VT admits deep into the top 50-60%)

At a different rigorous private, and would say that at our school, Emory is easiest admit ED, maybe takes top third. Wash U and Tufts take top 20 percent. UVA takes top 25 to 30 percent, and William and Mary, maybe median. We are oos for Virginia schools.

Can anyone from area public schools chime in? Chances for a top 5% 1450-1500 kid to get in ED to these schools? RD?

From my kids’ W (public) school Naviance, the only kids who get into any of these 3 colleges are 1500+ SAT and close to 4.0 with top rigor.

Even ED? And how can you you tell rigor from Naviance?

Yes, mostly ED. However, the past 3 years were wacky admissions - this year has been much more predictable.

You are right Naviance doesn’t show rigor, but my kids know the couple of kids each year attending and that has been the case for them with rigor.

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It seems surprising that these schools would only take 1500+ kids from a W school but TO kids from private, especially if (what one if the earlier posters said) in ED they are taking top 1/3 or top 1/2 (Emory and Tufts, respectively)…unless these kids are also legacy/athletes?

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like for public school kids ED is the only way to go…next question is ED2 helpful at all if ED doesn’t work out?

PP here. Yes I think ED2. My kid just wasn’t ready to do that.
Again the field of study matters a lot.

Which field of study has the best chances in ED2?
Humanities? Which?

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My daughter's a sophomore at WashU. She got in RD from a MoCo W school. Her stats were very good, although not quite elite. She applied to the school of design and had a cool (IMHO) portfolio.

She's double majoring in design and biology and going to apply to med school. She hadn't planned on med school, but WashU seems to suck kids into it.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems surprising that these schools would only take 1500+ kids from a W school but TO kids from private, especially if (what one if the earlier posters said) in ED they are taking top 1/3 or top 1/2 (Emory and Tufts, respectively)…unless these kids are also legacy/athletes?

Are those kids from a W school applying in RD? If so, that explains it. Applying early absolutely makes a difference regardless of high school.

Truthfully, it’s all kind of strange, but you can see that some high schools have a tighter connection with some colleges over others (eg, they funnel more kids there who do end up enrolling (and and not holding out for a better offer).

This reality is especially true in the private high school scene where many (most?) are full pay. Certain colleges - esp the ones discussed here - will admit up to 5% of the high school’s class (over 3 rounds) from these private schools. Now that may only be 6 kids (given size of school) but the history with the school does matter and dictates this discrepancy.

Sometimes you see these stat discrepancies at other T11-25 schools as well - Rice has openly said that they do not view a test optional candidate from a private school in a negative light (and assume a high test score given lack of grade inflation at that HS)… so not all colleges see TO as less than a 1500. (Source: YCBK Rice Admission rep interview)

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter's a sophomore at WashU. She got in RD from a MoCo W school. Her stats were very good, although not quite elite. She applied to the school of design and had a cool (IMHO) portfolio.

She's double majoring in design and biology and going to apply to med school. She hadn't planned on med school, but WashU seems to suck kids into it.

Good luck to her - but did this answer OP's question?

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I call BS. Nobody would get "sucked into" pre med.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory & washu will be harder than Tufts in terms of admission (Emory and washu are more selective)

Not for ED1.

Yes, even for ED1 Tufts (35% admitted ED1) will be a slightly easier admit than WashU (34% admitted ED1) or Emory (32% admitted ED1)

Those numbers are all essentially the same.

Yes. That’s why I said “slightly” easier.

The percentage doesn’t tell you anything if you don’t know how many are athletes.